Livestreaming with an atem 1 m/e production studio 4k

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Livestreaming with an atem 1 m/e production studio 4k

PostThu Apr 16, 2020 2:28 pm

Hello,

is it possible to livestream with an atem 1 m/e production studio 4k with an advanced Panel (input from 9 cameras via 3g sdi) ? or do i need an additionally 264 coder?
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PostThu Apr 16, 2020 6:41 pm

No. That will just take care of the input. You will need some encoder (either hardware or software).

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Tobias0607 wrote:Hello,

is it possible to livestream with an atem 1 m/e production studio 4k with an advanced Panel (input from 9 cameras via 3g sdi) ? or do i need an additionally 264 coder?
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Re: Livestreaming with an atem 1 m/e production studio 4k

PostFri Apr 17, 2020 7:15 am

From the Blackmagic Design product range, the new ATEM Mini Pro will help you here. It's technically a switcher too, like your 1 M/E, but it has an h,264 encoder and live streaming engine built it and can stream direct to the streaming service provider of your choice.
There are other hardware products that also do this, but the ATEM Mini Pro is very competitively priced for this facility.
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PostFri Apr 17, 2020 1:26 pm

I agree with you that the new ATEM Mini Pro will help with the encoding part however the original question referred to gear he already had with (9) SDI inputs. The ATEM Mini will not be the correct solution.

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scotmacman wrote:From the Blackmagic Design product range, the new ATEM Mini Pro will help you here. It's technically a switcher too, like your 1 M/E, but it has an h,264 encoder and live streaming engine built it and can stream direct to the streaming service provider of your choice.
There are other hardware products that also do this, but the ATEM Mini Pro is very competitively priced for this facility.
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Re: Livestreaming with an atem 1 m/e production studio 4k

PostFri Apr 17, 2020 2:56 pm

scotmacman wrote:From the Blackmagic Design product range, the new ATEM Mini Pro will help you here. It's technically a switcher too, like your 1 M/E, but it has an h,264 encoder and live streaming engine built it and can stream direct to the streaming service provider of your choice.
There are other hardware products that also do this, but the ATEM Mini Pro is very competitively priced for this facility.


Its the atem mini capable to input from 9 cameras via 3g sdi??


PDT: do we need an ATEM mini sub-forum?

As user of a pro ATEM device, I'm a bit tired to see post over post about the mini...
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Re: Livestreaming with an atem 1 m/e production studio 4k

PostFri Apr 17, 2020 4:11 pm

Joseph Villegas wrote:PDT: do we need an ATEM mini sub-forum?

As user of a pro ATEM device, I'm a bit tired to see post over post about the mini...

Yes same here.. The forum is flooded with new people with no knowlage at all about video because those mini's got so cheap now..

Resulting in a lot of questions that are asked over and over again.. :roll:
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PostFri Apr 17, 2020 4:20 pm

Yes for the love of God please add an ATEM Mini section
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PostFri Apr 17, 2020 5:17 pm

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PostFri Apr 17, 2020 6:12 pm

I agree but in this particular case the original question didn't ask about the Mini. :D

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PostFri Apr 17, 2020 8:18 pm

David_Anderson wrote:I agree but in this particular case the original question didn't ask about the Mini. :D

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Yes, he didn't ask. Thats why enter here, and because I also have an 1 M/E 4k.

But inevitably, someone mention the mini in wrong way (BTW)
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PostFri Apr 17, 2020 8:32 pm

I run a 1M/E in my main rack and yes you will need another device to encode for live streaming. There are many options out there both hardware and software. Personally I use LiveU on the hardware side and vMix on the software, but I am sure others will have suggestions on possible options.
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Re: Livestreaming with an atem 1 m/e production studio 4k

PostSat Apr 18, 2020 10:17 am

AndyMcHardy wrote:I run a 1M/E in my main rack and yes you will need another device to encode for live streaming. There are many options out there both hardware and software. Personally I use LiveU on the hardware side and vMix on the software, but I am sure others will have suggestions on possible options.


I use LiveU Solo & vMix also for livestreaming out of my BM ATEM 4K mixer. Excellent 1080p quality and not expensive.
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PostSat Apr 18, 2020 10:33 am

David_Anderson wrote:I agree with you that the new ATEM Mini Pro will help with the encoding part however the original question referred to gear he already had with (9) SDI inputs. The ATEM Mini will not be the correct solution.
scotmacman wrote:From the Blackmagic Design product range, the new ATEM Mini Pro will help you here. It's technically a switcher too, like your 1 M/E, but it has an h,264 encoder and live streaming engine built it and can stream direct to the streaming service provider of your choice.
There are other hardware products that also do this, but the ATEM Mini Pro is very competitively priced for this facility.

I think we all agree that the OP will certainly need another piece of kit to achieve their aim of live-streaming from their ATEM 1 M/E 4K. However, the ATEM Mini Pro still remains a viable solution to their problem. The ATEM 1M/E 4K offers an HDMI PGM OUT, which can be connected to the ATEM Mini Pro (as its sole input) and the ATEM Mini Pro will then encode and stream that signal out to the world. In this respect, we ignore its function as a Switcher, and merely use it as an encoder/streamer. It is competitively priced (and indeed, more flexible in some regards) compared to the Teradek Vidiu, Matrox Monarch, Datavideo NVS-30 et. al. There are, of course, also software-based solutions when paired with a capture card — but that's two pieces of kit to acquire then! :)
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PostSat Apr 18, 2020 6:16 pm

Also a BMD WebPresenter could be used, especially for steaming to FB, or an h.264 encoder like the BMD h.264 recorder?
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PostSun Apr 19, 2020 7:19 am

MambaFiber.com wrote:Yes for the love of God please add an ATEM Mini section


Amen brother...
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PostSun Apr 19, 2020 7:35 am

scotmacman wrote:
David_Anderson wrote:I agree with you that the new ATEM Mini Pro will help with the encoding part however the original question referred to gear he already had with (9) SDI inputs. The ATEM Mini will not be the correct solution.
scotmacman wrote:From the Blackmagic Design product range, the new ATEM Mini Pro will help you here. It's technically a switcher too, like your 1 M/E, but it has an h,264 encoder and live streaming engine built it and can stream direct to the streaming service provider of your choice.
There are other hardware products that also do this, but the ATEM Mini Pro is very competitively priced for this facility.

I think we all agree that the OP will certainly need another piece of kit to achieve their aim of live-streaming from their ATEM 1 M/E 4K. However, the ATEM Mini Pro still remains a viable solution to their problem. The ATEM 1M/E 4K offers an HDMI PGM OUT, which can be connected to the ATEM Mini Pro (as its sole input) and the ATEM Mini Pro will then encode and stream that signal out to the world. In this respect, we ignore its function as a Switcher, and merely use it as an encoder/streamer. It is competitively priced (and indeed, more flexible in some regards) compared to the Teradek Vidiu, Matrox Monarch, Datavideo NVS-30 et. al. There are, of course, also software-based solutions when paired with a capture card — but that's two pieces of kit to acquire then! :)


A few other considerations in regards to stream encoder would include encoding transport (SRT, RTMP, RTMPS, other), encoding format (H.264, HEVC/ H.265, other), and bit rate capabilities, not to mention resolution (720p vs 1080 vs 4k). BM, while offering some streaming options via the Web Presenter and new ATEM Mini Pro, doesn’t have the widest range of streaming options and support out there, so you may need to consider alternate encoding solutions, either software-based (which, of course, would required one to have a computer as well as a video card to get your program feed into it) or hardware-based, such as the Teradek Cube, LiveU Solo, Wowza Clearcaster, Haivision Makito X, and many others (several of which have been mentioned in other posts).

In short, there are a lot of options for leveraging your 1 M/E for live streaming, all of which simply require sending your program feed to an external stream encoder.

PS: As a personal aside, I prefer hardware encoders as in my experience, they have been more reliable than software encoders and you don’t have the threat of having some other software application on your computer interfering with your streaming software, either by taking up system resources or starting an unwanted and untimely network process.
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Can someone recommend a software streaming encoder for use with an ATEM Production Studio 4K for live streaming on YouTube? WIN-10, Thanks
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