Portrait output

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lukebone

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Portrait output

PostFri Aug 14, 2020 2:01 am

Hi guys,

Have been searching for an answer but can't seem to find anything.

New to the ATEM world, have a Constellation 8K in our inventory with the Advanced Panel.

Looking at having 2 portrait outputs to display a camera feed from PTZ's. I can't see any way to flip the output to portrait, but can see a greyed out rotation option under USK's, so thinking I might be able to flip the input instead?

Is this possible?

Thanks!
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Dave Del Vecchio

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Re: Portrait output

PostFri Aug 14, 2020 11:10 pm

The ATEM models only support standard broadcast resolutions and aspect ratios for their video input and output ports. For HD video that means a 16:9 landscape aspect ratio.

The DVE keyers do have a rotation option, so you could rotate and scale one of the video inputs into a vertical orientation, if desired. But the ATEM video outputs will still be 16:9 landscape, so you will end up with black bars on either side of the vertically oriented video.
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Re: Portrait output

PostMon Mar 29, 2021 2:31 pm

Yet the most important question stands. Why is the rotation option Greyed Out on a Constellation. (While it is not on a 4M/E).
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Re: Portrait output

PostTue Mar 30, 2021 8:07 am

You have to switch on DVE on that USK to make it work.

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Re: Portrait output

PostThu Apr 01, 2021 3:01 pm

What do you mean with 'switch on'?
All other parameters are not greyed Out and work instantaneously.
And on a 4M/E I'm doing the exact same thing and it is not Greyed Out AND working properly.
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Re: Portrait output

PostThu Apr 29, 2021 11:16 am

I'm having the same issue with our Constellation 8K.

Even though I select the USK to be DVE, the Rotation is greyed out. Don't understand how the 4M/E is "technically" one step below the Constellation, but the 4M/E is capable of this while the Constellation is not.

Are we missing a step?
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Re: Portrait output

PostWed Oct 20, 2021 12:15 pm

Hi,
I'm having the same issue (latest firmware). Did you get it to work?

Thanks
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Re: Portrait output

PostThu Oct 21, 2021 10:33 am

I have the same, did this will come with a update soon?
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Re: Portrait output

PostFri Oct 22, 2021 7:56 pm

Hello Michael,

Thank you for contacting Blackmagic Support with your query. Unfortunately, the rotation feature is not available on the Constellation 8K, and we cannot be certain if it will be implemented or when.

Best regards,

Steven Hemsley
Senior Broadcast Specialist - Broadcast Support
Blackmagic Design EMEA
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Dominik Lenk

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Re: Portrait output

PostWed May 04, 2022 9:06 pm

Does the new Constellation HD support DVE rotation?

Is there a chance that rotation will be added anytime in the future via a firmware update?

And for those that ran into this in the past, how have you solved this? Is there a third party "box" that rotates SDI signals? (although I guess that anything else than increments of 90° will be impossible due to transparency …)
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Re: Portrait output

PostWed May 04, 2022 11:11 pm

when we streaming to Instagram , im rotating 90 with encoder (ffmpeg) ..
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Dave Del Vecchio

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Re: Portrait output

PostThu May 05, 2022 12:53 pm

The manual for the ATEM Constellation HD switchers does have a brief mention of DVE rotation on page 112:
https://documents.blackmagicdesign.com/ ... 0783610000

I suppose there's a chance that this text was just copied from the ATEM Production Studio manual (as some of those models do support rotation), so you might want to get confirmation of this from Blackmagic directly just to be sure.

In terms of other alternatives, doing rotation in software on a computer (in ffmpeg, OBS, etc.) is certainly one viable approach as Roman suggests.

Or see this thread for mention of a few hardware video processing devices that can do rotation as well:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=159502
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Re: Portrait output

PostMon May 16, 2022 7:15 pm

BM just confirmed that the new ATEM Constellation HD switchers also do not support DVE rotation.

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