Timecode, Timecode, Timecode - ATEM Constellation HD

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Timecode, Timecode, Timecode - ATEM Constellation HD

PostWed Mar 29, 2023 7:47 am

Hello!!

My name is Nik and i'm new to the forum

I've been doing Live Production now for around 20 years, and thoroughly enjoy the pressure and pieces to a live event. I'm also constantly impressed at how many features Blackmagic can fit for the price and form factor!

That being said, how could Blackmagic leave out timecode input on the new Constellation HD switchers??

Even with some of their other products like the video assist, there's the option for timecode through the xlr audio port

Could we possibly add the timecode input via the analog audio input? and maybe loop it on the output?

Setting it to time of day timecode seems to be a challenge as well. I read somewhere that it only works when connected to a PC but I haven't actually tested that yet

Would be great to also have the ability to turn on a timecode overlay on the multi-view outputs, as well as safe margins. Currently the only option im seeing is audio meters

Finally, could we PLEASE pass the embedded SDI timecode or the auto-generated timecode (free run/time of day) from switcher to the multi-view outputs as well! This would be super helpful for the producers logging notes and other operators and engineers. Currently it's only passing on the switcher outputs.
Ive done a temporary work-around of taking the multi-view out, into one of the inputs and then sending it through a switcher out to embed the timecode. This works, however, robs me of precious outputs.
Is it just me, or are there ALWAYS the need for more outputs than inputs? Would be super neat to be able to specify if a BNC connector was an input or an output, and you could customize any which way depending on event or install

thanks in advance for considering these feature requests and hopefully some of these will make into a future firmware update!


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Re: Timecode, Timecode, Timecode - ATEM Constellation HD

PostWed Mar 29, 2023 2:20 pm

We are asking for this since 3 years since the Constellation 8K came out and robbed us from the TC in that we so heavily use on the 4ME Broadcast.

Had several shows i had to pull the Constellation 8K out and put the old 4ME back into the truck as we REALLY needed to sync to External timecode!!!


It's absolutely ridiculous that this already implemented function has been removed from the newer switchers.. And i get it that they have no space left on the Constellation 8K / 4ME HD.. But at least offer the users to repurpose the analog input jacks as TC in.. Since we use MADI for clean digital audio in.. And since the Analog inputs sound not that good at all.. Lacking a lot of lower frequency response anyway..

So embedding from digital source or embedding with SDI is always a good option to get Audio into the Atem..



It completely sucks that the Atem is TC master.. As our 8K slips about 1,5 seconds in 12 hours.
We have a Professional TC generator in the OBV. Locked to GPS and Atomic clock. And to set the 8K to match it takes a few tries before we have them both in sync. But then after a few hours the Atem is already slipping. We never had this issue with the 4ME Broadcast as it was always connected to the TC gen..
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Re: Timecode, Timecode, Timecode - ATEM Constellation HD

PostFri Mar 31, 2023 8:54 pm

I agree with daniel!
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Re: Timecode, Timecode, Timecode - ATEM Constellation HD

PostFri Mar 31, 2023 10:07 pm

I was changed ATEM Broadcast 4ME for Constelation 8K .. I was set 1080p50 resolution .. Hyperdecks not shows any timecode .. Teranexs show this :

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Re: Timecode, Timecode, Timecode - ATEM Constellation HD

PostMon Apr 03, 2023 2:33 pm

Roman Pytkin Pekarek wrote:I was changed ATEM Broadcast 4ME for Constelation 8K .. I was set 1080p50 resolution .. Hyperdecks not shows any timecode .. Teranexs show this :



We have the Same issues with Teranex units going crazy on the timecode from the Constellations.
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Re: Timecode, Timecode, Timecode - ATEM Constellation HD

PostMon Apr 03, 2023 8:03 pm

Hello folks,
Xtreemtec wrote:We have a Professional TC generator in the OBV. Locked to GPS and Atomic clock.

Internal manufacturing or commercial unit ?
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Re: Timecode, Timecode, Timecode - ATEM Constellation HD

PostTue Apr 04, 2023 8:50 am

Commercial unit. Does TC and Genlock. DK Technolgie PT5300 with several options inserted.
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Re: Timecode, Timecode, Timecode - ATEM Constellation HD

PostTue Apr 04, 2023 7:39 pm

I had thought to a nanosyncs HD but discontinued now...

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