Monitor for ATEM Mini Pro (& Frame Rates)

Hey!

I'm looking for a small, portable monitor to use with my ATEM Mini Pro for use as MultiView Monitor.

At the moment I'm using an old Aputure VS-3 7" on-camera monitor I had laying around. It has low resolution and is on the small side. Maybe a 7" monitor could work if it was better quality but would prefer something that was 9-13" or thereabouts.
There doesn't seem to be a whole lot in that range. What are you guys using?

Another issue is that most monitors that are made to be used as computer monitors seem to mostly accept 50/60 hertz signals. So if I would want to stream at 25p, they won't work.

Which leads to the next question, is there ever a good idea to stream in 25p? Or should I just set it to 50p even if the cameras are set to 25p? (I guess bandwidth would be one reason to stream 25p?).

I allways stream 25p ..

And for monitor , why not BMD SmartView 4K ? Its mountable into rack .. have 2 inputs (i have MULTIVIEW and PGM there)

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/smartview4k

Good to now someone else also streams in 25p

The BMD SmartView 4K is way too expensive and rack-mount is the wrong form factor at this point.
Would prefer a smaller 1920x1080 monitor.

I always stream at @25p too and feel problem monitors.
I found that most PC monitors supports only 50+ frames per second. Interlace video supported too, so I tried to set 50i output for multiview on my ATEM HD while program at @25p, it works, but I don't like such configuration because of flickering at multiview monitor. Also seems to ATEM Mini does not support this feature.
Also I found most TVs supports 25p over HDMI.

I found a lot of cheap ($90-$200) very thin 12-17 inches monitors at aliexpress, I asked sellers about 1080p25, and some of them answered it supports. But I have not tried it.

Also I tried to make monitor by myself of laptop's screen and HDMI-LVDS scaler ordered at aliexpress. Realtek based scalers looks good, but does not support framerate lower than 50.
Scalers based on TSUMV29 or TSUMV59 works with 1080p25 input well, but they significant bigger than realtek models and has a lot of unneeded inputs such as CVBS, Component, antenna

Hey!

I'm looking for a small, portable monitor to use with my ATEM Mini Pro for use as MultiView Monitor.

At the moment I'm using an old Aputure VS-3 7" on-camera monitor I had laying around. It has low resolution and is on the small side. Maybe a 7" monitor could work if it was better quality but would prefer something that was 9-13" or thereabouts.
There doesn't seem to be a whole lot in that range. What are you guys using?

Another issue is that most monitors that are made to be used as computer monitors seem to mostly accept 50/60 hertz signals. So if I would want to stream at 25p, they won't work.

Which leads to the next question, is there ever a good idea to stream in 25p? Or should I just set it to 50p even if the cameras are set to 25p? (I guess bandwidth would be one reason to stream 25p?).

We are using SONY EX 350 , with 1080i50 output .. Atem is on 1080i50 .. And deinterlacing to 25p are in Teradek Cube encoder .. Im using DELL monitors , whitch have not problem with 1080i50 and is switchable YUV or RGB color space ..

I always stream at @25p too and feel problem monitors.
I found that most PC monitors supports only 50+ frames per second.
Also I found most TVs supports 25p over HDMI.

Yes, all my 3 camera monitors work (Aputure VS-3, Atomos Ninja V, Odyssey7Q+) and my 4K Sony TV. But not my computer monitor.
Problem is that all 9"+ camera monitors are at least €1000 it seems.

And cheaper PC monitors that are 10-13" are just a jungle and only available from suspect Amazon sellers so returning will be a pain in the rear if it doesn't work.

Tricky!

I allways stream 25p ..
And for monitor , why not BMD SmartView 4K ? Its mountable into rack .. have 2 inputs (i have MULTIVIEW and PGM there)
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/smartview4k

Roman, are you using the SmarVeiw with the Mini, or just your larger ATEM? I have one and was thinking of using it with my MiniPro using a HDMI to SDI converter for the Multiview HDMI output.
Cheers

Denny : Im using this Smartview 4K in OB VAN (there is ATEM 4K Broadcast) .. But i dont see any problem , why not with ATEM MINI PRO .. I like 2 inputs on it .. One for multiviewer and one for PGM .. Depend on work , im switching this two ..

BTW : very nice case especialy for ATEM TVS PRO /4K and Smartview :

https://www.syntex.sk/jocomp-atem-telev ... o-pro-case

Thanks Roman, that is a sweet looking case and setup.
Cheers

Wow, with the new 8.2.2 update the HDMI output does frame conversion so any monitor will work! That really opens up the choices! Fantastic news!

I've used a slightly bigger screen and put all the connections mounted on that screen. It got way better and more transportable than if I would've followed my original plans and mounted everything in a rack.

Although I use 1080p60 and can't speak to other frame rates, I was also in the search for an inexpensive, small, portable monitor for multi view use. I tried a couple of cheap monitors off Amazon (only ones sold and shipped by Amazon) and found that:

The SunFounder Raspberry Pi Display 13.3 Inch IPS Portable 2 HDMI Monitor did NOT work. It wouldn't sync with either my camcorders or the ATEM Mini. It did however work with a Raspberry Pi Zero.

However, the Neewer F11 11.6 inches 1080P HD Monitor 1920x1080 16:9 TFT IPS LCD Screen works great. It's definitely a cheap little monitor but the picture isn't horrible, the size is nice and for $99 it's not a bad deal.

Again, I can't vouch for how it handles different frame rates, but it's working well at 1080p60.

I teach a video production class for high school students. A local merchant just purchased the Mini Pro for us, but now we need a monitor. Obviously, it must be as inexpensive as possible and reliable. I see that several options have been provided in this post and I am curious if anyone has updates on best options. I need something portable that the kids can easily move to different sporting events.

I've been working on a similar monitor decision, but was going for a more compact solution for mobile setups.
At the moment, I'm using a Atomos Shinobi. This is adequate, but a bit hard on my old eyes.

I don't know of any other way to do this, but was thinking of connecting the ATEM's HDMI monitor output to a Elgato Cam Link. Then using the Elgato software on the same laptop used to control the ATEM, to view the ATEM output on my laptop.
This would eliminate another piece of gear for a mobile live stream event.

Anyone try this, or something similar?
Have another suggestion for viewing the ATEM's HDMI output on a laptop?

U can send USB to computer and show it on screen .. not need HDMI .. Im using OBS for this ..

were you able to get the multiview via USB?