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ATEM Mini - Setting USB OUT to PREVIEW

PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:31 pm
by rweathersbee
Greetings, all. I've seen this topic covered loosely in a few other threads, but I wanted the chance to ask this question more explicitly.

Is it possible to have the ATEM Mini (not Pro) send the PROGRAM feed through the HDMI OUT, and then have the PREVIEW feed sent through the USB OUT? If not, would this be possible in a software/firmware update?

Look forward to hearing back about this!

Re: ATEM Mini - Setting USB OUT to PREVIEW

PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:46 pm
by Dave Del Vecchio
No, the USB webcam output is always the Program output from the ATEM Mini. There's no way to configure this at the moment.

The only video output that is configurable is the HDMI output, which could be set to output the Preview signal to an HDMI monitor, if desired.

Re: ATEM Mini - Setting USB OUT to PREVIEW

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:34 pm
by rweathersbee
Thanks, Dave!

I've got a weird set-up that requires the HDMI output to be the Program signal, as it would be sent through an extender into a distant room. I was hoping the USB output could be set to the Preview signal so that the person at the switcher could preview shots before cutting.

It's too bad this isn't a feature already!

Re: ATEM Mini - Setting USB OUT to PREVIEW

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:07 pm
by David_Anderson
I wouldn't expect this as a future feature. The AMP solves most of these issues.

Best,

David

rweathersbee wrote:Thanks, Dave!

I've got a weird set-up that requires the HDMI output to be the Program signal, as it would be sent through an extender into a distant room. I was hoping the USB output could be set to the Preview signal so that the person at the switcher could preview shots before cutting.

It's too bad this isn't a feature already!

Re: ATEM Mini - Setting USB OUT to PREVIEW

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:25 pm
by Roman Pytkin Pekarek
AMP have the bigger problem .. When U use HDMI out as PROGRAM OUT, then u miss MULTIVIEWER .. Preview too, like ATEM MINI .. I hope , that USB its not fixed , and BMD give us posibility to change source of USB output in future .. PLEASE !

Re: ATEM Mini - Setting USB OUT to PREVIEW

PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:53 am
by Earl R. Thurston
Although it requires another device, the ATEM Streaming Bridge would effectively provide this capability. It captures the program stream sent from the ATEM Mini's Ethernet port and turns it back into an HDMI or SDI video signal.

Re: ATEM Mini - Setting USB OUT to PREVIEW

PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:31 pm
by Papa-T
Earl R. Thurston wrote:Although it requires another device, the ATEM Streaming Bridge would effectively provide this capability. It captures the program stream sent from the ATEM Mini's Ethernet port and turns it back into an HDMI or SDI video signal.


I'm actually looking for an answer about this. I'm wondering if I can stream from the Pro to a streaming service (in my case, Facebook Live) and use the Streaming Bridge on my local network to view the stream in an overflow room.
In their Production Update video,
it seems that you have to select the Streaming Bridge as the platform.

Any thoughts? Anyone with more insight?

Re: ATEM Mini - Setting USB OUT to PREVIEW

PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:07 pm
by Frank Engel
Earl R. Thurston wrote:Although it requires another device, the ATEM Streaming Bridge would effectively provide this capability.


With how much of a delay, is the real question...

Re: ATEM Mini - Setting USB OUT to PREVIEW

PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:59 pm
by Andrew Martin
Frank Engel wrote:
With how much of a delay, is the real question...


You can see for yourself if you look here...


Starts around 33.07 mins in.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

Re: ATEM Mini - Setting USB OUT to PREVIEW

PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:21 pm
by Roman Pytkin Pekarek
Earl R. Thurston wrote:Although it requires another device, the ATEM Streaming Bridge would effectively provide this capability. It captures the program stream sent from the ATEM Mini's Ethernet port and turns it back into an HDMI or SDI video signal.

NO its not solution .. It have delay , compresssion, etc etc .. Not usable for me ..

Re: ATEM Mini - Setting USB OUT to PREVIEW

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:47 pm
by rweathersbee
Roman Pytkin Pekarek wrote:NO its not solution .. It have delay , compresssion, etc etc .. Not usable for me ..

I'm with you, Roman. I really wish they could give us this option!

Re: ATEM Mini - Setting USB OUT to PREVIEW

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:02 am
by MattDowner
This is probably a stupid suggestion but I thought i'd ask it anyway....
Would a USB-C to HDMI dongle provide an additional HDMI output?

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Re: ATEM Mini - Setting USB OUT to PREVIEW

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:36 pm
by Dave Del Vecchio
MattDowner wrote:This is probably a stupid suggestion but I thought i'd ask it anyway....
Would a USB-C to HDMI dongle provide an additional HDMI output?
No, this won't work unfortunately. USB-C to HDMI output adapters make use of the USB Alternate Mode specifications:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB-C#Alt ... ifications

With USB-C Alt Mode, the device is effectively sending an HDMI video stream over some of the wires in the USB connector. Which means that device itself needs to support whatever USB-C Alt Mode (HDMI, DisplayPort, etc.) the connected adapter is using.

All of the USB-C Alt Mode profiles are optional parts of the USB specification and I don't believe that the ATEM Mini supports any of them.

Note that the USB webcam output from the ATEM Mini works in a totally different way. For the USB webcam output to work, it must be connected to a computer which acts as the USB Host (while the ATEM Mini becomes the USB Device end). The ATEM Mini then operates as a USB Video Class (UVC) device providing a compressed video stream to the computer. The USB Video Class specifications have been around for a long time (since 2003) which is why at this point most major computer operating systems have built-in support for UVC devices such as USB webcams or the ATEM Mini.

Re: ATEM Mini - Setting USB OUT to PREVIEW

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:48 am
by Walter Sonius
+1 Also would like to see the Multiview/Preview on USB as an future option and have the HDMI set to program.

Re: ATEM Mini - Setting USB OUT to PREVIEW

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:44 pm
by Roman Pytkin Pekarek
We have not status from BMD , if this will be doable in the future ..

Re: ATEM Mini - Setting USB OUT to PREVIEW

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:36 pm
by unstence
We also are interested in this feature. We run the HDMI out into a Teradek Vidiuu so we can bond the connections and get a better quality picture.