Transparent graphics - Atem mini pro

Questions about ATEM Switchers, Camera Converter and everything live!
  • Author
  • Message
Offline

Rosseirc

  • Posts: 37
  • Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:56 pm
  • Real Name: Rosario Gallin

Transparent graphics - Atem mini pro

PostFri Aug 21, 2020 4:42 pm

I’m trying to create transparent graphics in photoshop to put in mi atem mini pro. I sw several videos about how to do on youtube, but it doesn’t seems to work for me. When I put the picture in the media player and push the pre multiplier key, it makes the background (that is transparent) white and the graphic transparent. I created an alpha channel in Photoshop but still doesn’t work. I downloaded one somebody else created, and it works, I just don’t manage to create/edit one.
Offline

Pavel Lavrov

  • Posts: 764
  • Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:24 am

Re: Transparent graphics - Atem mini pro

PostFri Aug 21, 2020 4:54 pm

In Photoshop you need to delete white background layer. As long as you save it as TIFF or PNG it will handle the transparency for you...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Pavel L
Offline

Rosseirc

  • Posts: 37
  • Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:56 pm
  • Real Name: Rosario Gallin

Re: Transparent graphics - Atem mini pro

PostSat Aug 22, 2020 9:00 am

I do that. I delete the white layer and put the graphics on separate (transparent) layers, then add a channel (alpha) and mark the other RBG channels. Save in PNG or TGA. Still not working.

With the premulitplierkey it’s totally wrong. If I unselect the premulitplierkey I see the graphics but the “fading”of the graphic (lower 3rd for example) effect is not working.
Offline

Rosseirc

  • Posts: 37
  • Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:56 pm
  • Real Name: Rosario Gallin

Re: Transparent graphics - Atem mini pro

PostFri Aug 28, 2020 7:09 am

Still not managing to make it work :-(
Offline
User avatar

Roman Pytkin Pekarek

  • Posts: 2400
  • Joined: Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:11 pm
  • Location: SVK

Re: Transparent graphics - Atem mini pro

PostFri Aug 28, 2020 11:24 pm

U need one layer .. save 24bit PNG .. and it must work .. im using it 8 years ..
http://tally.pytkin.sk
http://chucktv.eu
http://www.stonepp.tv
http://www.media-planet.sk
Offline

Rosseirc

  • Posts: 37
  • Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:56 pm
  • Real Name: Rosario Gallin

Re: Transparent graphics - Atem mini pro

PostSat Aug 29, 2020 7:50 pm

Roman Pytkin Pekarek wrote:U need one layer .. save 24bit PNG .. and it must work .. im using it 8 years ..

You mean i need to marge the layers?
Offline

Pavel Lavrov

  • Posts: 764
  • Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:24 am

Re: Transparent graphics - Atem mini pro

PostSat Aug 29, 2020 7:53 pm

Photoshop can handle merging on save. No need to merge layers manually before saving.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Pavel L
Offline

Rosseirc

  • Posts: 37
  • Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:56 pm
  • Real Name: Rosario Gallin

Re: Transparent graphics - Atem mini pro

PostFri Sep 04, 2020 8:17 pm

Can sombody explain what is wronge with my graphic? I can't manage to make it transparent with "pre multiplied key". If i mark pre multiplied key the logo becames transparent, but the rest becames whitish. I tryed all the options.
HEre is the file link
https://we.tl/t-ApIsf2imgi

What do i do wrong?
Offline

Pavel Lavrov

  • Posts: 764
  • Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:24 am

Re: Transparent graphics - Atem mini pro

PostFri Sep 04, 2020 8:45 pm

Seems to be ok. Here’s my settings.ImageImage


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Pavel L
Offline

Darren B. Kelly

  • Posts: 44
  • Joined: Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:54 pm
  • Real Name: Darren Kelly

Re: Transparent graphics - Atem mini pro

PostSun Sep 06, 2020 1:13 am

Pavel,

What is the file format you saved it? Use RGB for colour space.

What version of Photoshop are you using?
Offline

Pavel Lavrov

  • Posts: 764
  • Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:24 am

Re: Transparent graphics - Atem mini pro

PostSun Sep 06, 2020 1:23 am

Darren B. Kelly wrote:Pavel,

What is the file format you saved it? Use RGB for colour space.

What version of Photoshop are you using?


Same PNG file from Rosseirc download link above.
As you can see from pictures I had “Pre MultipliedKey” unchecked. But still feeding a key source “Media Player 1 Key”... Need more testing to figure out if my Atem mini pro iso behaves different from other Atems.

As far as file, it’s a simple save as PNG from Photoshop with lowest compression (larger file) transparent background of course.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Pavel L
Offline

Darren B. Kelly

  • Posts: 44
  • Joined: Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:54 pm
  • Real Name: Darren Kelly

Re: Transparent graphics - Atem mini pro

PostMon Sep 07, 2020 12:23 am

Answer my questions.

Is the computer and operating system up to date

Are you using a current, or modern version of Photoshop

Are you making your titles in RGB colour space.
Offline

Rosseirc

  • Posts: 37
  • Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:56 pm
  • Real Name: Rosario Gallin

Re: Transparent graphics - Atem mini pro

PostTue Sep 08, 2020 6:47 pm

Sorry for the delay.
I use photoshop cc 2017, rgb. It works when i don't have "pre multipled key" (what does that even mean?) but i don't get the fading effect at the end as you, for me it looks like atotal solid, then whole thing.
Offline

Pavel Lavrov

  • Posts: 764
  • Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:24 am

Re: Transparent graphics - Atem mini pro

PostTue Sep 08, 2020 6:48 pm

Rosseirc wrote:Sorry for the delay.
I use photoshop cc 2017, rgb. It works when i don't have "pre multipled key" (what does that even mean?) but i don't get the fading effect at the end as you, for me it looks like atotal solid, then whole thing.

Check the image how i have "Key source" selected...
Pavel L
Offline
User avatar

swallow

  • Posts: 45
  • Joined: Tue May 26, 2020 2:08 am
  • Location: NYC
  • Real Name: Ethan Doh

Re: Transparent graphics - Atem mini pro

PostTue Sep 08, 2020 11:43 pm

Haven't used PS in years but downloading your file and re-saving it with Pixelmator Pro/Preview works with Pre Multiplied Key option selected.
Attachments
5 Folk festival text namn-9.png
Re-saved with Preview
5 Folk festival text namn-9.png (280.98 KiB) Viewed 7307 times
5 Folk festival text namn-1.png
Re-saved with Pixelmator Pro
5 Folk festival text namn-1.png (193.48 KiB) Viewed 7307 times
Ethan Doh
Offline

Pavel Lavrov

  • Posts: 764
  • Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:24 am

Re: Transparent graphics - Atem mini pro

PostWed Sep 09, 2020 3:26 am

Try saving as TIFF in Photoshop. (Confirmed to work, for me anyways)
See picture for save settings.
Image


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Pavel L
Offline

Rosseirc

  • Posts: 37
  • Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:56 pm
  • Real Name: Rosario Gallin

Re: Transparent graphics - Atem mini pro

PostWed Sep 09, 2020 4:37 am

Pavel Lavrov wrote:Try saving as TIFF in Photoshop. (Confirmed to work, for me anyways)
See picture for save settings.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

I will try later today (have to "go" to work)
Offline

Rosseirc

  • Posts: 37
  • Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:56 pm
  • Real Name: Rosario Gallin

Re: Transparent graphics - Atem mini pro

PostWed Sep 09, 2020 4:38 am

Check the image how i have "Key source" selected...[/quote]

I have that as well

Return to Live Production

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 33 guests