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Tethering iPhone 8+ to ATEM Mini Pro

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:07 pm
by James Harkness
Hey I installed the update to the ATEM and plugged my iphone 8+ in through usb-c to lightning cable. I have hotspot turned on as well. I am unable to get the little phone icon on my multiview out and stream with my cellphone data. Any advice to fix this?

Re: Tethering iPhone 8+ to ATEM Mini Pro

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:16 pm
by Walter Sonius
Does it ask for a "trust this device" pincode after plugin in the USB-c lightning cable?

Try disabling "wifi" and "bluetooth" via "settings" not via the quick "control settings". Than disable / enable personal hotspot and replug cable. Than it may ask for USB only tethering or USB / WIFI / BT.

Offtopic: Not near our own "atem mini pro " because of lent out, but could you check to see which downscaled resolutions &framerates and bitrates it support right now? Grant petty mentions 240p...

UPDATE:
The product video mentions changing framerate to 24p to limit bandwith which is not a new feature, I mistakenly took that for resolution 240p...

Re: Tethering iPhone 8+ to ATEM Mini Pro

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:17 pm
by James Harkness
Walter Sonius wrote:Does it ask for a "trust this device" pincode after plugin in the USB-c lightning cable?

Try disabling "wifi" and "bluetooth" via "settings" not via the quick "control settings". Than disable / enable personal hotspot and replug cable. Than it may ask for USB only tethering or USB / WIFI / BT.

Offtopic: Not near our own "atem mini pro " because of lent out, but could you check to see which downscaled resolutions &framerates and bitrates it support right now? Grant petty mentions 240p...



It asks for "trust this device" for a split second but disappears. its too fast for me to click trust, I tried a bunch of times. I am updating the iOS to see if that fixes it.

Once I get it set up I can let you know about the framerates and resolutions.

Re: Tethering iPhone 8+ to ATEM Mini Pro

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:23 pm
by Walter Sonius
James Harkness wrote:
It asks for "trust this device" for a split second but disappears. its too fast for me to click trust, I tried a bunch of times. I am updating the iOS to see if that fixes it.


Are you also using fingerprint identification?

Really looking forward to test with our iphone8 when the unit is back, but before that keep us updated with your progress.

Re: Tethering iPhone 8+ to ATEM Mini Pro

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:23 pm
by James Harkness
Walter Sonius wrote:
James Harkness wrote:
It asks for "trust this device" for a split second but disappears. its too fast for me to click trust, I tried a bunch of times. I am updating the iOS to see if that fixes it.


Are you also using fingerprint identification?

Really looking forward to test with our iphone8 when the unit is back, but before that keep us updated with your progress.



no I don't have the fingerprint thing activated.

Re: Tethering iPhone 8+ to ATEM Mini Pro

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:31 pm
by Walter Sonius
Is the tethering working for you on a PC/Mac with USB at all? We still run IOS 13 on the iphone8 because it tethers with a USB-router using Openwrt.

Between IOS 13 and 14 apple changed some undocumented stuff to the protocoll so all Linux based distro's could not tether anymore with IOS 14 phones after a decade of perfectly fine work.
Some background info on non Windows/MacOS iphone tethering, it is fixed BTW:
https://github.com/libimobiledevice/lib ... ssues/1038

Re: Tethering iPhone 8+ to ATEM Mini Pro

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:34 pm
by James Harkness
Walter Sonius wrote:Is the tethering working for you on a PC/Mac with USB at all? We still run IOS 13 on the iphone8 because it tethers with a USB-router using Openwrt.

Between IOS 13 and 14 apple changed some undocumented stuff to the protocoll so all Linux based distro's could not tether anymore with IOS 14 phones after a decade of perfectly fine work.
Some background info on non Windows/MacOS iphone tethering, it is fixed BTW:
https://github.com/libimobiledevice/lib ... ssues/1038



Yes I just plugged it into my macbook and tethering is working fine. Using it right now to type this message

Re: Tethering iPhone 8+ to ATEM Mini Pro

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:05 pm
by Derfla
Which USB-C to Lightning adapter will work for tethering? I know some cables are for charging and others are for data/sync. I want to make sure I order one that works with the ATEM Mini Pro.

Re: Tethering iPhone 8+ to ATEM Mini Pro

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:46 pm
by James Harkness
Derfla wrote:Which USB-C to Lightning adapter will work for tethering? I know some cables are for charging and others are for data/sync. I want to make sure I order one that works with the ATEM Mini Pro.


Im using the one right from apple and it works for tethering to my macbook. Just having trouble getting it to work for my ATEM mini pro

Re: Tethering iPhone 8+ to ATEM Mini Pro

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:16 am
by Raphaël Jacquot
worked out of the box here, took 10s to set up !

Re: Tethering iPhone 8+ to ATEM Mini Pro

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:54 am
by Walter Sonius
Raphaël Jacquot wrote:worked out of the box here, took 10s to set up !


Which (i)phone, which (I)OS version?

Could you hint which downscaled resolutions, framerates and or bitrates are possible? Like is it possible to stream 1080p60/50 camera's to 720p30/25 1,5Mbit or 480p/576p?

Re: Tethering iPhone 8+ to ATEM Mini Pro

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:07 pm
by Derfla
James Harkness wrote:
Derfla wrote:Which USB-C to Lightning adapter will work for tethering? I know some cables are for charging and others are for data/sync. I want to make sure I order one that works with the ATEM Mini Pro.


Im using the one right from apple and it works for tethering to my macbook. Just having trouble getting it to work for my ATEM mini pro


Thanks, could you be more specific as to which cable? A link perhaps?

Re: Tethering iPhone 8+ to ATEM Mini Pro

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:19 pm
by Nikko Yuste
Atem mini is not supported?

Re: Tethering iPhone 8+ to ATEM Mini Pro

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:15 pm
by James Harkness
Derfla wrote:
James Harkness wrote:
Derfla wrote:Which USB-C to Lightning adapter will work for tethering? I know some cables are for charging and others are for data/sync. I want to make sure I order one that works with the ATEM Mini Pro.


Im using the one right from apple and it works for tethering to my macbook. Just having trouble getting it to work for my ATEM mini pro


Thanks, could you be more specific as to which cable? A link perhaps?


https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MX0K ... -cable-1-m

Re: Tethering iPhone 8+ to ATEM Mini Pro

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:33 pm
by James Harkness
well you learn something new everyday. Always figured LTE was the same as 4G. Gotta go pick up a different SIM card.

Re: Tethering iPhone 8+ to ATEM Mini Pro

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:02 pm
by Xtreemtec
Nikko Yuste wrote:Atem mini is not supported?

Mini does not have streaming.. So what's the use of 4G internet to it??

Mini Pro and Pro Iso will have it. ;)

Re: Tethering iPhone 8+ to ATEM Mini Pro

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:29 pm
by James Harkness
Xtreemtec wrote:
Nikko Yuste wrote:Atem mini is not supported?

Mini does not have streaming.. So what's the use of 4G internet to it??

Mini Pro and Pro Iso will have it. ;)


not talking about mini, look at the title of this thread bro. ATEM Mini Pro

Re: Tethering iPhone 8+ to ATEM Mini Pro

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:57 pm
by Xtreemtec
James Harkness wrote:
Xtreemtec wrote:
Nikko Yuste wrote:Atem mini is not supported?

Mini does not have streaming.. So what's the use of 4G internet to it??

Mini Pro and Pro Iso will have it. ;)


not talking about mini, look at the title of this thread bro. ATEM Mini Pro

You not but Nikko Yuste was ;) :lol:

For sure i knew the pro did as Grant showed that in the new video online. ;)

Re: Tethering iPhone 8+ to ATEM Mini Pro

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:59 pm
by James Harkness
not talking about mini, look at the title of this thread bro. ATEM Mini Pro[/quote]
You not but Nikko Yuste was ;) :lol:

For sure i knew the pro did as Grant showed that in the new video online. ;)[/quote]


gotcha

Re: Tethering iPhone 8+ to ATEM Mini Pro

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:32 am
by Phil999

with this cable, I guess it should also work with an iPhone 6 Plus. Is that right?

Re: Tethering iPhone 8+ to ATEM Mini Pro

PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:38 pm
by Phil999
I tried to stream with an iPhone 6 Plus using an USB C adapter, but it didn't work.

It is a bit surprising that this brilliant ATEM Mini update does not create the attention it deserves. I guess we're all occupied with other things in our life. But streaming directly from the Mini Pro using a smartphone (yes, what about Android phones?) is in my opinion quite a change.

Re: Tethering iPhone 8+ to ATEM Mini Pro

PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:50 pm
by Mark Foster
most of the cheap chinese cables are only charging cables
a USB-C to x data cable is necessary!

for iphone the cable delivered with is the right one or buy from apple
some android cables are not data cables

Re: Tethering iPhone 8+ to ATEM Mini Pro

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:56 pm
by Walter Sonius
Phil999 wrote:I tried to stream with an iPhone 6 Plus using an USB C adapter, but it didn't work.


I just tried with a iPhone 6 (non plus IOS 12.49) with the Apple USB-C-Lightning cable from iPhone 11 and I just streamed to youtube as in it works for me. We did disconnect the RJ45 ethernet plug, and offcourse on the iPhone make sure you have mobiledata tethering with usb enabled! Just try it the tethering first on a macbook / pc and see if the BLUE connections status bar turns up on te iPhone.

Also check if you have explicitly 4G and not 3G/LTE as it seems the topic starter needed an new SIM card...

Re: Tethering iPhone 8+ to ATEM Mini Pro

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:36 pm
by James Harkness
So I ended up getting an iphone 12 that came with a usb-c to lightning cable as well. This actually worked. I tried the old cord I had and it didnt work.

Turns out the original usb-c to lightning cable wasn't allowing the data stream, even though it is an official apple cable. Very strange.

Re: Tethering iPhone 8+ to ATEM Mini Pro

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:02 pm
by Walter Sonius
James thanks for letting know that it was the cable but not the simcard?

Re: Tethering iPhone 8+ to ATEM Mini Pro

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:13 pm
by Phil999
thanks for your posts, this is encouraging.

Edit:

Does streaming work with Android phones?