Micro Studio Camera no more?
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:54 pm
I can't find the Micro Studio Camera 4k on the updated BMD website. Has it passed into history?
https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/
https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=145406
David Hutchinson wrote:I've been told they have temporarily removed it because they have huge back order numbers but no way of fulfilling them.
robertsmu wrote:https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicmicrostudiocamera4k
Xtreemtec wrote:
Due to a problem that they cant fullfill the orders anymore as sensors are not coming in anymore..
Denny Smith wrote:Since the Ursa Broadcast camera uses the same sensor, that would be my conclusion also.
We might see a refresh of this camera also, using the sensor from the new Studio cameras, as the previous models did. Having the larger Four Thirds sensor is a nice addition, especially for smaller studios, allowing a better lens choice.
Cheers
Kim Janson wrote:But despite all this, I think they where pioneers, and very reasonably priced. I hope we will see next version of them, it is about time after 6 years.
Videobegin wrote:you speak about this one ?
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicmicrostudiocamera4k
a new one with pan/tilt will be attractive
Xtreemtec wrote:Denny Smith wrote:Since the Ursa Broadcast camera uses the same sensor, that would be my conclusion also.
We might see a refresh of this camera also, using the sensor from the new Studio cameras, as the previous models did. Having the larger Four Thirds sensor is a nice addition, especially for smaller studios, allowing a better lens choice.
Cheers
Sorry Denny but the Micro Studio is NOT the same sensor as the Ursa Broadcast. It had the same sensor as the big studio camera. Which is now EOL and replaced since last week..
The ursa Broadcast has a much smaller sensor because they could not fit the image plane of the B4 lens onto such a big sensor..
David Hutchinson wrote:Calling these sensors 1" is just deceptive marketing- thankfully I've never seen BMD use that description.
Howard Roll wrote:Learn something or don't.
Good Luck
Denny Smith wrote:David, I think your issue over calling the smaller sensor a “1-inch” sensor is down to expecting it to have a 1-inch diagonal. This is not correct, there is a 1-inch dimension in a 1-inch sensor, it has to fit inside a 1-inch diameter of a cathode ray tube. You need to understand where the term 1-inch and 2/3rds used to describe a sensor size of TV cameras came from. The terms 1-inch, 2/3rds, and 1/2-inch sensors goes back to early days of TV production, when vacuum tubes were used in the camera to capture the image (not CCDs or current single CMOS digital sensors), and the measurement refers to the size of the diameter of the video tube used, and the image sensor size area, inside this cathode ray tube.
A 1-inch tube was one inch in diameter, but the image area was a 4:3 rectangle inside the 1-inch round tube , and this image area was smaller than 1-inch to fit inside the one inch tube. Same goes for a 2/3rds sensor, it is the size of the rectangle drawn inside a 2/3rds of an inch diameter vacuum tube. Original aspect ratio of TV production was 4:3, cameras used tubes for capturing the image, and the terminology used today, is based on this early technology.
So yes, a 1-inch sensor is not one inch in any measurement, but smaller, so it could fit inside a 1-inch vacuum tube sensor area (not quite edge to edge), and it is the circle size of the tube, not actual sensor size, we use to describe their size. Since these tubes only were 1-inch or smaller, this term is only used for these smaller sensor sizes. Four Thirds and Micro Four Thirds sensors are based on a still photography digital camera standard, and both use the same size sensor. Larger sensors are described by the movie film format they are closest to in size, and are not necessarily the same size as their film counterpart. So it all comes down to the terminology we use to describe things.
Also the image from a lens is a circle, and it has to be large enough to cover the sensor corner to corner, so we are back agin to putting our rectangle image sensors inside a circle…
Cheers
Denny Smith wrote:Sorry David, I miss read your original post. Anyway, I provided a history lesson for those that do not understand where the term came from.
Cheers
Xtreemtec wrote:Bit heavier on the price tag but at least does 12G-SDI and does CCU control over network.
Howard Roll wrote:Xtreemtec wrote:Bit heavier on the price tag but at least does 12G-SDI and does CCU control over network.
I've already replaced my micros with BGH1s and the 3G SDI output limitation is something of a head scratcher, especially for a 4K cam with genlock. For 12G, fiber is basically a necessity so it's not a dealbreaker but I'd have preferred 12G SDI and 3G HDMI. I talked to Panasonic and the BGH1 is a Consumer Group product, not Pro Video which likely explains the configuration.
Good Luck