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Two Key and Fill Overlays One Switcher 2M/E Constellation HD

PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 4:58 pm
by silverhonda84
Hello,

Our 2M/E Constellation HD is used in a church workflow where we have both in house and Livestream. Currently, we only have one person switching on Sundays, so the right and left screens are showing both IMAG of the worship and preaching with key and fill for lower thirds, and overlays of video and announcements from presentation software. This is currently being broadcast on our livestream channel also. (The center LED wall is receiving an independent input from the computer but we are not switching on this channel).

We have a second key and fill coming from the computer, and we have the capability to use it on both Program 1 and Program 2. However, this issue that I want to solve is how we can: Use the switching from one M/E (since we don't have 2 operators) and broadcast the same video to both livestream and in house, but show different overlays from key and fill to each output.

I really hope this is possible, and I'm happy to clarify this further if needed. Thank you!

Re: Two Key and Fill Overlays One Switcher 2M/E Constellatio

PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 1:59 pm
by Howard Roll
Use the clean feeds and or cascade MEs.

Good Luck

Re: Two Key and Fill Overlays One Switcher 2M/E Constellatio

PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:30 pm
by Roman Pytkin Pekarek
Yes send cleen feed back to any input , switch it to me2 and add new grwphics in key ..

Re: Two Key and Fill Overlays One Switcher 2M/E Constellatio

PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:59 pm
by silverhonda84
Howard Roll wrote:Use the clean feeds and or cascade MEs.

Good Luck


Ok thank you for your idea. I appreciate it.

Re: Two Key and Fill Overlays One Switcher 2M/E Constellatio

PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:02 pm
by silverhonda84
Roman Pytkin Pekarek wrote:Yes send cleen feed back to any input , switch it to me2 and add new grwphics in key ..


Ok, so I label an input as "program" or whatever, and tell it to grab the clean feed signal from the one we're switching, and then I just use my other key and fill on that one? I will try it out - thanks for sending a reply - I know enough about this tech to be dangerous!

Re: Two Key and Fill Overlays One Switcher 2M/E Constellatio

PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 6:58 pm
by Roman Pytkin Pekarek
yes .. But other KEY/FILL u must put to UPSTREAM KEY .. no DOWNSTREAM KEY(DSK) , because DSKs are only on ME1 .. Thats not problem . It working the same ..

Re: Two Key and Fill Overlays One Switcher 2M/E Constellatio

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 4:57 pm
by roger.suski
Are you using a hardware panel for switching, or the ATEM software? In addition to different overlays, I could also imagine you might NOT want the wide shot to be in IMAG, but would want it for the live stream.
Anyway, you might find that using Companion/Streamdeck would make it easy to manage the different keys on the different MEs - and maybe even set up a "watcher" that looks at ME1 and then triggers ME2 except for the camera that is wide.

Re: Two Key and Fill Overlays One Switcher 2M/E Constellatio

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 9:06 pm
by Howard Roll
roger.suski wrote:Are you using a hardware panel for switching, or the ATEM software? In addition to different overlays, I could also imagine you might NOT want the wide shot to be in IMAG, but would want it for the live stream.
Anyway, you might find that using Companion/Streamdeck would make it easy to manage the different keys on the different MEs - and maybe even set up a "watcher" that looks at ME1 and then triggers ME2 except for the camera that is wide.


I’d still use the clean feed and bring the wide shot in on a keyer as it’s simply an extension of the same concept the OP is after. I do this a lot for Imag shows where I never take wides to screen but I don’t want the records or lobby/back of house feeds in blackout for interstitials. Grass makes this super easy with key priority, no re-entry/cascading required. I heart Companion but only use it when there’s no alternative.

Good Luck

Re: Two Key and Fill Overlays One Switcher 2M/E Constellatio

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 9:15 pm
by Roman Pytkin Pekarek
Or U can use secondary panel .. We used it here :

https://www.facebook.com/romanpytkin.pe ... 0947960037

Re: Two Key and Fill Overlays One Switcher 2M/E Constellatio

PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 10:07 pm
by Howard Roll
Macros are your friend. Why are you guys trying to complicate something so simple?

Good Luck