JustMacros -> Atem Connection

Hey guys,

for our live production studio I wanted to implement justmacros. Unfortunately I can't even get the atem connection working.

This is the error message I receive when trying to connect our ATEM 2M/E:

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31 Jan 11:39:24.434: TVISATEMMacroMixer.Destroy: Error Stopping Stacked Command Processing: Err: Access violation at address 0098330B in module 'JustMacros63Plus.exe'. Write of address 00000044
31 Jan 11:39:24.434: TVISATEMMacroMixer.Destroy: Error clearing Command Stack Access violation at address 0098353F in module 'JustMacros63Plus.exe'. Read of address 00000008
31 Jan 11:39:24.434: Mixer Removed : 192.168.200.101
31 Jan 11:39:24.435: Unhandled Application Error: Access violation at address 007DC837 in module 'JustMacros63Plus.exe'. Read of address 00000000

Since the justmacros page is down as well as atemuser I was hoping to find a little help here.

If someone has documentation on justmacros and the implemantion to a production studio (Atem switchers, BM Videohubs, Casper CG), I'm very grateful for help!

Thanks a lot,

Moritz

Search on youtube there are some video's from /user/VisualInformationSys/ the 'Just Macros Live Channel' might be helpful.

http://www.vis-ranger.com/2018/10/26/ge ... st-macros/

This is the new page for JustMacros, it includes a link to the new forums but they're not very active as I don't think many folks from the old JM community know it's there.

I got it working. It actually was an issue with the firmware incompatibility with justmacros 63 to an older ATEM Patch.

Thanks a lot!

Hi,

We have the same issue. Lucky we download justmacros version 75 plus before the justmacros site goes down. But, we can't connect to the atem if the atem use firmware version higher than 6.9 in Just Macros

We need to update our atem from blackmagic design because we had a major problem with our 1M/E 4K atem. After a XX number of hours, is the program output pink with green and red stripes. This is also displayed on the multiview output for all inputs. We have no problems with the audio. When we restart
te ATEM switcher by unplugging the power cable and returning it again after 5 seconds. the switcher works correctly again. This is happened lately more and more frequently. But since we update to the latest ATEM firmware. On advice from BMD support. it has not occurred since the firmware update. But we can't connect our atem with just macros.

Did someone have a newer version from justmacros our is there a alternative way to connect with the atem and use it with a X-Key keyboard?

Hi,

We have the same issue. Lucky we download justmacros version 75 plus before the justmacros site goes down. But, we can't connect to the atem if the atem use firmware version higher than 6.9 in Just Macros

We need to update our atem from blackmagic design because we had a major problem with our 1M/E 4K atem. After a XX number of hours, is the program output pink with green and red stripes. This is also displayed on the multiview output for all inputs. We have no problems with the audio. When we restart
te ATEM switcher by unplugging the power cable and returning it again after 5 seconds. the switcher works correctly again. This is happened lately more and more frequently. But since we update to the latest ATEM firmware. On advice from BMD support. it has not occurred since the firmware update. But we can't connect our atem with just macros.

Did someone have a newer version from justmacros our is there a alternative way to connect with the atem and use it with a X-Key keyboard?

Any updates on this?
Can Justmacros work with updated ATEM firmware?
Or is there a reasonably priced alternative?

Thanks,

Eli

If you don't want the fancy xkeys ui, I have a free PowerShell ATEM scripting solution that is free. Works with 8.1 and you can use VS Code as the script editor (a free, modern editor with good intelligence and debugger).

It can use xkeys, midi, keyboard, arduino gpio or streamdeck.

The same learning curve as JM.


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Make sure the computer you're running JustMacros on is also running the same ATEM software version as your switcher and software control panel.

If you don't want the fancy xkeys ui, I have a free PowerShell ATEM scripting solution that is free. Works with 8.1 and you can use VS Code as the script editor (a free, modern editor with good intelligence and debugger).

It can use xkeys, midi, keyboard, arduino gpio or streamdeck.

The same learning curve as JM.


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Thanks, would love to have a look at it. I am far from being a coder, i need something intuitive i can actually use...

Make sure the computer you're running JustMacros on is also running the same ATEM software version as your switcher and software control panel.

I wasn't aware that ATEM software and hardware can even work if they don't have the same version...
That's the normal state of things as far as i know, did anyone tried JM with current 8.1 ATEM?

Eli

Hi thanks for the response for updated the atem software. We have not yet had the opportunity to test this.
But we have found an alternative for Just Macros. And it can more than Just Macros. Also it's free because it is a open source project.

With Bitfocus companion https://bitfocus.io/companion/ you can control the atem, hyperdeck, multiview 4 and even Vmix, or an GrandMA2 lighting consoles. It works with the Elgato stream deck and iDisplay Infinitton control surfaces.

I have see this working at a company who use this in there master control room for controlling the serval BMD Smarthub. They use the beta version now for almost 2 month's. And it is stable solution for replacing Just Macros.

They may, or may not. Seems like it *might* work (ATEM software being out of sync with FW on the actual hardware) but I'd be surprised if any have JM running on the same computer as their ATEM Software. It bit me a few weeks ago after I updated the laptops, panel and switcher and neglected to remember to update the JM computer. Anyway, good luck.

Streamdeck is a great solution powerful and being constantly updated, however I would not refer to it as JM replacement (yet).

I just bought streamdeck and it looks very good .. But for ATEM controlling im missing some controls ..

Im using Behringer Xtouch mini (cost about 35 EUR) .. And it have fader and rotary knobs .. Ideal for ATEM controlling .. Look at this video :

They may, or may not. Seems like it *might* work (ATEM software being out of sync with FW on the actual hardware) but I'd be surprised if any have JM running on the same computer as their ATEM Software. It bit me a few weeks ago after I updated the laptops, panel and switcher and neglected to remember to update the JM computer. Anyway, good luck.

Streamdeck is a great solution powerful and being constantly updated, however I would not refer to it as JM replacement (yet).

If u use only the atem support in the stream deck software it isn't even powerful als JM. But if you use it whit bitfocus companion. It is even more powerful als JM. Because you can combine commands. We use JM only for switching between inputs on a 2M/E Atem switcher, and we make a workaround to control a hyperdeck with JM and a Xkeys panel. And we are now planning to switch to bitfocus companion with a Streamdeck XL pannel.

JM don't support to use equipment from other brands than Blackmagic design. But in Bitfocus companion has a long list of supported equipment and that make it powerful. You can make a combine command for example: Go to input 4 on the atem and start playing a clip in CasperCG (on input 4) and at the end of the clip switch to back. all with one puss on a stream deck button.

And if you miss a option in bitfocus companion. You can ask them on GitHub to add support for that option. as example we request support for TeamSpeak so we can build our own intercom system with bitfocus companion running on a Raspberry Pi with stream deck and a USB headsets. The camera operators use there smartphone's with the TeamSpeak app on it connected to our server.

Hi thanks for the response for updated the atem software. We have not yet had the opportunity to test this.
But we have found an alternative for Just Macros. And it can more than Just Macros. Also it's free because it is a open source project.

With Bitfocus companion https://bitfocus.io/companion/ you can control the atem, hyperdeck, multiview 4 and even Vmix, or an GrandMA2 lighting consoles. It works with the Elgato stream deck and iDisplay Infinitton control surfaces.

I have see this working at a company who use this in there master control room for controlling the serval BMD Smarthub. They use the beta version now for almost 2 month's. And it is stable solution for replacing Just Macros.

They may, or may not. Seems like it *might* work (ATEM software being out of sync with FW on the actual hardware) but I'd be surprised if any have JM running on the same computer as their ATEM Software. It bit me a few weeks ago after I updated the laptops, panel and switcher and neglected to remember to update the JM computer. Anyway, good luck.

Streamdeck is a great solution powerful and being constantly updated, however I would not refer to it as JM replacement (yet).

Thank you all for the replies. Streamdeck and Companion seems like a great product but it doesn't really fit the same purpose.
For example, just from a mere point of number of buttons in a row, the minimum I'd like is 8 Inputs, Cut and Auto in the same row. Preferably even have the Media Players buttons there too.
I can have that with the simple XK-16 but not even the Streamdeck XL offers more that 8 buttons in a row.
and there are other reasons for Xkeys too.
I did order the small Streamdeck just to check it out and have some macros at hand with the nice graphic buttons etc but it's not a replacement.

Is there really no simple tool to program Xkeys to control ATEM?

I just bought streamdeck and it looks very good .. But for ATEM controlling im missing some controls ..

Im using Behringer Xtouch mini (cost about 35 EUR) .. And it have fader and rotary knobs .. Ideal for ATEM controlling .. Look at this video :

This is really cool! how do you hook up and setup the Behringer Xtouch to the ATEM?

Eli

Hi thanks for the response for updated the atem software. We have not yet had the opportunity to test this.
But we have found an alternative for Just Macros. And it can more than Just Macros. Also it's free because it is a open source project.

With Bitfocus companion https://bitfocus.io/companion/ you can control the atem, hyperdeck, multiview 4 and even Vmix, or an GrandMA2 lighting consoles. It works with the Elgato stream deck and iDisplay Infinitton control surfaces.

I have see this working at a company who use this in there master control room for controlling the serval BMD Smarthub. They use the beta version now for almost 2 month's. And it is stable solution for replacing Just Macros.

They may, or may not. Seems like it *might* work (ATEM software being out of sync with FW on the actual hardware) but I'd be surprised if any have JM running on the same computer as their ATEM Software. It bit me a few weeks ago after I updated the laptops, panel and switcher and neglected to remember to update the JM computer. Anyway, good luck.

Streamdeck is a great solution powerful and being constantly updated, however I would not refer to it as JM replacement (yet).

Thank you all for the replies. Streamdeck and Companion seems like a great product but it doesn't really fit the same purpose.
For example, just from a mere point of number of buttons in a row, the minimum I'd like is 8 Inputs, Cut and Auto in the same row. Preferably even have the Media Players buttons there too.
I can have that with the simple XK-16 but not even the Streamdeck XL offers more that 8 buttons in a row.
and there are other reasons for Xkeys too.
I did order the small Streamdeck just to check it out and have some macros at hand with the nice graphic buttons etc but it's not a replacement.

Is there really no simple tool to program Xkeys to control ATEM?

You can create an unlimited number of pages in Companion. So if it don't fit's on one page than you can add a another page. This allows you to add an infinity number of functions to 1 button on the stream deck. Also you can connect more than one stream deck. So you can use one for the ATEM media player and another one for the switching between inputs.

I like to hear how your test went with companion and the stream deck. We have ordered the XL. as well as 2 small stream deck for teamspeak integration. So we can test it ourselves soon in our serval ATEM installation's

as example we request support for TeamSpeak so we can build our own intercom system with bitfocus companion running on a Raspberry Pi with stream deck and a USB headsets. The camera operators use there smartphone's with the TeamSpeak app on it connected to our server.

I was tested this scenario .. TS server at internet .. Mobile phone with TS client connected via wifi to OBVAN with leased line internet .. an i had lag about 2 sec .. Not acceptable for us ..

I just bought streamdeck and it looks very good .. But for ATEM controlling im missing some controls ..

Im using Behringer Xtouch mini (cost about 35 EUR) .. And it have fader and rotary knobs .. Ideal for ATEM controlling .. Look at this video :

This is really cool! how do you hook up and setup the Behringer Xtouch to the ATEM?

Eli

With Just Macros .. It can read MIDI from Xtouch and send commands to ATEM ..

BTW Companion .. Can I swap images in media player in ATEM ? I was not found command for it in V1.3 ..

I just bought streamdeck and it looks very good .. But for ATEM controlling im missing some controls ..

Im using Behringer Xtouch mini (cost about 35 EUR) .. And it have fader and rotary knobs .. Ideal for ATEM controlling .. Look at this video :

This is really cool! how do you hook up and setup the Behringer Xtouch to the ATEM?

Eli

My X-touch solution for Windows. Supports fader and program/preview led status live even if changed on another computer. About to add media pool slot change as an option on encoder instead of volume control.
https://ianmorrish.wordpress.com/category/v-ise/midi/


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I just bought streamdeck and it looks very good .. But for ATEM controlling im missing some controls ..

Im using Behringer Xtouch mini (cost about 35 EUR) .. And it have fader and rotary knobs .. Ideal for ATEM controlling .. Look at this video :

This is really cool! how do you hook up and setup the Behringer Xtouch to the ATEM?

Eli

With Just Macros .. It can read MIDI from Xtouch and send commands to ATEM ..

Really with JustMacros? Cool!
Could you please send me the profile to see how you set it up?

Many thanks

Eli

So I just read this whole thread, but want to confirm that I cannot use the native buttons on a BMD Panel in conjunction with JustMacros? I keep seeing different answers about what I can use with JustMacros; whether it be with a StreamDeck or with the BMD Panel buttons.

Essentially, we want to have the smooth transitions from box layout to box layout, but don't want to use X-Keys. We can use StreamDeck, but it seems like the only option is Companion. Is it possible/simple to achieve this with Companion or do I need to find code from elsewhere?

Perry : I think , i dont understand , what is your problem ?

You can use the bmd panel Macro buttons to trigger JM functions. You just create dummy macros that have a pause command. Then use a monitor script looking for a pause state, get the macro number, then run your function.
Can't find my old JM macros but here is how I do it with PowerShell https://ianmorrish.wordpress.com/2020/0 ... n-scripts/


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