B3 AI SuperScale

Hey Everyone,

Just wanted to see if I'm the only one or if others are experiencing this. AI SuperScale was working
fine in B2 but in B3 it is greyed out and unselectable. Also as a note If I had it selected and on in a B2 timeline it remains in the on position in the B3 one.

Anyone?

Thanks,
Shaun

Yes, I found exactly the same thing - SS greyed Out, and not changeable to Nvidia or Resolve, etc.

Among the Solutions that I tried, but were unsuccessful:

Forced Resolve to re-Optimize the AI Models during start-up.

Tried OpenGL (Desperation!!)

Removed Nvidia drivers 576.28 with UUD and installed older driver 572.6

Rebooted (Of Course!)

So now I have removed Beta3, and re-installed Beta2 with 572.6 drivers, and all SS options are available again, and apparently working OK.

I have not re-optimized the AI models, and Resolve did not prompt me to. I see that there is a big cache file in the DVIP folder so I assume all is good with AI.


This is not a major problem, but I guess that it is worth reporting.

IB

I'm seeing this as well. You can still change it through the clip attributes.

Doesn't seem to depend on GPU/driver, seeing the same on Intel GPU.

I tried all the AI upscalers thinking they found a bug causing crashing (like some report) but it wasn't going to be fixed this release so they turned off upscaling all together. Didn't see any problems, deactivating the "Ai Superscale" switch might be the actual bug but still strange. I"m using Windows with Nvidia GPU accessing the upscalers via clip attributes

[Peter Chamberlain]

Using clip attributes is a work around to the B3 regression.

Bob, if you have crashes, please use resolve help menu to generate diagnostic logs and share. that's kinda the idea of using the beta.

OK thanks for this information.

However, I am just an amateur, and I had to spend half an hour to figure out what you mean by "modify the clip attributes".

I read the Media Page chapter in the manual and was none the wiser. I see the Panel on the right hand side of the Media Page, but this is just the Inspector which does not work on the Edit Page.

So then I did a word search in the Manual and found :

" The File tab in the Inspector now has a Timecode pane that handles the types of controls that were formerly handled by Clip Attributes in the Media Pool (though that option is still available)."

Aha!

So now I go to the Media page, Right Click on the Clip Name, look at the Drop-Down Menu, and see the last item is "Attributes". So I click on that, and the first page is Video, and down the bottom of that page is "Superscaling", and yes I can change it to anything I want ! Jackpot!

So thanks for your tip.

I hope my post may help another amateur with a similar problem.

And always RTFM !!

IB

The same here.

When trying to export a timeline of 1:35 hours (creatited in DR 19.1.4) DR 20 Beta 3 crashes when I use NVIDA on the Export-Tab but exports correct when using setting "NATIV" without Superscale.

It also stops exporting (crashes?) when setting Superscale "2x NVIDIA RTX" and "2x Better" in the Clip Attributes.

EDIT:
Another test with the same timeline with superscale set in the Clip Attributes to 2x NVIDIA RTX resulted in GTU-Error 702:



Here the crashlog: https://www.margha.com/BMD/DR/DaVinci-Resolve-logs-20250506-220723_NVIDIA_Superscale_RTX_x2.zip

Just for curiosity I tried to export a timeline of about the same length on our Laptop (HP i7 10th Gen, 32 GB RAM, 2 TB SSD, NVIDIA 2070 super, Win11Pro DR 20 Beta 3) without any problems.

Hope that helps. Thanks.

So now I go to the Media page, Right Click on the Clip Name, look at the Drop-Down Menu, and see the last item is "Attributes"

You don't need to go to the Media page, you can access clip attributes by right-clicking a clip in the timeline on the Edit page.

[Dwaine Maggart]

@Josef: Please provide a .NFO file and a project export .drp of the M??hldorf-TV_Stand_050525 project.

Hello Dwaine,

since I had to finish a project which has to be delivered Saturday I rolled back to 19.1.4.
The drp-file of the same projekt in DR 19.1.4 is this one here:

http://www.margha.com/BMD/DR/Muehldorf-TV_Stand_19_060525.drp

Here the NFO: http://www.margha.com/BMD/DR/JosefSystem.NFO

Before rolling back I tried DR 20 Beta 2. There the AI Superscale switch was not greyed but Export simply stopped after running through the timeline for Audio normalisation. Nothing helped but a stopping DR and restarting the computer. Also tried to shut down the computer completely (unplugging from power) and restarting ist. Also this didn't help.

Sorry for that....

I'm a "Me too" on this.

I made my own post as I didn't see this thread initially.

viewtopic.php?f=40&t=221312

[Dwaine Maggart]

The 702 errors occurred with timeline Theater_2 selected.

Looking at that timeline in the project you sent, most of the clips are offline, due to not being in the Media Pool.

Clips like P1010079.mov and P1010080.mov and P1010081.mov and P1010082.mov etc. etc. Not sure if those not being in the Media Pool would cause a 702 error or not, but doesn't seem likely. So not sure what's going on with that. Because they are missing from the Media Pool, I can't see what type, if any, of SuperScale was applied to them.

Yes Dwain, this is probably a problem with my rolling back to 19.1.4... The error occured after I finished editing the timeline in 20.3. Unfortunately I deleted this project... So I could not offer the final *.drp...

But: Since I used a track for each camera (it was a five-camera-recording - see the filenames - SuperScale was set for only one Track) the settings on each track are the same along the whole timeline. Means, if set in Clip-Attributes it effects all clips in a track in the whole timeline.

In the version of DR 19.1.4 this timeline wasn't finished yet. I know, one should not change to a Public Beta while working on a project.... Sorry for that.

The only thing I can say what I already wrote in my initial post. I tried Superscale with and without Nvidia-support. DR 20.3 successfully rendered when I chose "Nativ" in the render settings and Superscale without Nvidia-Support.

Meanwhile the project is delivered to the customer. Maybe I give 20.3 a try with a new project. I'll see...

There are so many problems with NVidia Superscale that I wonder why on earth Blackmagis are still holding to it. The native superscale works just fine and it doesn't give any crashes or bsods

Yea, mine has been disabled on B3 too. I think they are working on it

There are so many problems with NVidia Superscale that I wonder why on earth Blackmagis are still holding to it.

I use it as a sort of Scaling Proxy, because the real time performance is MUCH better than the other options.

Then I switch to 2x Enhanced for final delivery.