How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

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How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

PostWed Sep 04, 2024 11:09 pm

Hi,

This topic has been passing by before but I wanted to know for my specific situation and system:

I just bought a Dell XPS 17 9700 (16 GB RAM)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10750H CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2592 MHz
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Ti

I work with Resolve 19 Studio, mostly HD, multilayered, maybe 4K in near future, magic mask and those kind of nice new AI features. I heard fusion takes up much RAM. I don't work that much in Fusion but I use fusion presets which are made by others. Those ran stuttering in playback with my old HP Z-Book 32 GB.

Will my new system benefit if I upgrade to 32 GB ?
Or even 64 ?

With the 32 GB in my older HP Z-book I still had a lot of crashes.
I still don't know why that was (it had a NVIDIA Quadro 3000).
The memory was replaced new

By the way
In case of 32 GB, is it better to have it as 2 strips of 16 or 1 strip of 32 ?

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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

PostWed Sep 04, 2024 11:11 pm

Hi,

This topic has been passing by before but I wanted to know for my specific situation and system:

I just bought a Dell XPS 17 9700 (16 GB RAM)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10750H CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2592 MHz
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Ti

I work with Resolve 19 Studio, mostly HD, multilayered, maybe 4K in near future, magic mask and those kind of nice new AI features. I heard fusion takes up much RAM. I don't work that much in Fusion but I use fusion presets which are made by others. Those ran stuttering in playback with my old HP Z-Book 32 GB.

Will my new system benefit if I upgrade to 32 GB ?
Or even 64 ?

With the 32 GB in my older HP Z-book I still had a lot of crashes.
I still don't know why that was (it had a NVIDIA Quadro 3000).
The memory was replaced new

By the way
In case of 32 GB, is it better to have it as 2 strips of 16 or 1 strip of 32 ?

Thanks all !
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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

PostWed Sep 04, 2024 11:45 pm

!6GB is the recommended minimum so no harm in adding another 16GB. For Resolve 19 make sure your Nvidia driver is version 550.58 Studio or later
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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

PostThu Sep 05, 2024 1:40 am

Is your GTX1650Ti 4 GB? If so, it will be very inadequate and you likely will get full GPU memory. The sweet spot seems to be a GTX3060 12 GB. RTX3060 12 GB.

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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

PostThu Sep 05, 2024 11:00 am

When I check the system info, is it correct that it is 1 GB RAM ??
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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

PostThu Sep 05, 2024 12:12 pm

Or am I reading it from a wrong tab ?
When I check the specs on the Dell website it says 4 GB.
So I am still a bit in the dark what it is and also what to do...
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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

PostThu Sep 05, 2024 5:46 pm

I checked again online and for the GTX1650Ti I only find 4 GB not 1 GB, so I guess I am looking at something different in my system info ? ?

If the card with 4GB is inadequate, do you mean then the solution would be to replace it (because putting in more memory would not do the trick ?) ? With f.e. with a 3060 12 GB, as you mentioned (around 300 euro) ?

And what about the memory after that ? Should it stay at 16 ? Or better 32 GB ?
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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

PostThu Sep 05, 2024 7:42 pm

As a general rule, when it comes to memory...more is always better. ;)

The 12 GB 3060 is a very good starting point for working in Resolve.
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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

PostThu Sep 05, 2024 9:32 pm

How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?


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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

PostThu Sep 05, 2024 10:26 pm

marklg wrote:Is your GTX1650Ti 4 GB? If so, it will be very inadequate and you likely will get full GPU memory. The sweet spot seems to be a GTX3060 12 GB.

Regards,

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Did you mean the GTX or RTX 3060 ?
I see in your specs you have an RTX 3060
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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

PostThu Sep 05, 2024 11:40 pm

Ya'll are talking about 2 diff things...

RAM = / = VRAM

VRAM Is different from RAM. Ram, random access memory, is your modules that allow your computer to do multitasking more efficiently...

VRAM Is Video Ram, which allows editor programs and games to play back more smoothly...


which one are you asking about...


I edit with 6VRAM (and it's mostly fine I work in 60FPS 2550 timelines which I believe is called 2k ) and I work with 120 hours of footage recorded also in 60 FPS, I do get lag here and there, but, it's manageable

I would recommend 12 VRAM if you can get it, though, I havn't noticed a massive difference --

Ontop of that, at minimum 16 RAM -- but I recommend 32RAM + at least. I run with 64 Ram

for the strip question, it's always better to have 2 of the same, than one of one. Ram works in pairs, sending information back and forth to easily multitask, that's why you never want to mix ram types. and if you do, 1 and 3 need to be the same ram. This helps the computer run faster. If you mix, or, use a single, you have less multitasking ability.
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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

PostFri Sep 06, 2024 1:07 pm

GamerKitty Euphoric wrote:Ya'll are talking about 2 diff things...

RAM = / = VRAM

VRAM Is different from RAM. Ram, random access memory, is your modules that allow your computer to do multitasking more efficiently...

VRAM Is Video Ram, which allows editor programs and games to play back more smoothly...


which one are you asking about...


I edit with 6VRAM (and it's mostly fine I work in 60FPS 2550 timelines which I believe is called 2k ) and I work with 120 hours of footage recorded also in 60 FPS, I do get lag here and there, but, it's manageable

I would recommend 12 VRAM if you can get it, though, I havn't noticed a massive difference --

Ontop of that, at minimum 16 RAM -- but I recommend 32RAM + at least. I run with 64 Ram

for the strip question, it's always better to have 2 of the same, than one of one. Ram works in pairs, sending information back and forth to easily multitask, that's why you never want to mix ram types. and if you do, 1 and 3 need to be the same ram. This helps the computer run faster. If you mix, or, use a single, you have less multitasking ability.


Yes, I meant RAM in the first place (the actual strips), the VRAM I just started to discover that this makes a difference too. The 4GB from my current NVIDIA 1650 appears not to be enough what I read here and elsewhere.

You mention you have 12 Gb (VRAM) on your card. Which card and brand is it ?
I am leaning towards the RTX 3060 12 GB which seems to be affordable (around 300).
And then an extra strip of 16 GB. You mention it needs to be the same, so I will see what is inside already and order an extra of the same. Does it make a difference if they are different brands ?seems
'Crucial' is said to be optimal with Dell (XPS 17)
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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

PostFri Sep 06, 2024 2:05 pm

Alexander132 wrote:Did you mean the GTX or RTX 3060 ?
The 3060 is an RTX card. GTX stopped with the 1000 series. Everything 2000 and over is RTX.
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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

PostFri Sep 06, 2024 2:37 pm

When I look online there are many different types/brands of RTX 3060 12 GB

Gainward NE63060019K9-190AU NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB GDDR6
MSI GeForce RTX 3060 VENTUS 2X 12G OC
Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3060 WINDFORCE OC 12G
MSI GeForce RTX 3060 VENTUS 2X OC LHR 12GB GDDR6
Zotac GeForce RTX 3060 Twin Edge 12GB GDDR6

Or this one?
https://amzn.to/49kNId9

Which to choose from for my Dell XPS-17 9700 Laptop ?
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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

PostFri Sep 06, 2024 2:39 pm

One of the reasons Laptops are the wrong tool for this job is that it's not always so easy to upgrade the hardware.

Build yourself a proper desktop.
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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

PostFri Sep 06, 2024 6:31 pm

Jim Simon wrote:One of the reasons Laptops are the wrong tool for this job is that it's not always so easy to upgrade the hardware.

Build yourself a proper desktop.


Yes, I noticed, and I wish I could but I need to work on the road.
Therefore I just would like to know (although with compromises) which card I should use to replace mine with.
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PostFri Sep 06, 2024 6:48 pm

Alexander132 wrote:Which to choose from for my Dell XPS-17 9700 Laptop ?


Which eGPU enclosure are you looking at?

Some info here: https://www.reddit.com/r/eGPU/s/nj4kNNVxLZ


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PostFri Sep 06, 2024 7:19 pm

A 3060 is a 3060 - the differences between manufacturers are:

- Cooling
- Noise
- RGB lighting
- minor overlocks
- overall building quality

If I had to choose a GPU, I'd select the one with the best cooling solution - that is, it has the biggest/better heatsink so it runs cool and quiet.
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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

PostFri Sep 06, 2024 11:10 pm

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Alexander132 wrote:Which to choose from for my Dell XPS-17 9700 Laptop ?


Which eGPU enclosure are you looking at?

Some info here: https://www.reddit.com/r/eGPU/s/nj4kNNVxLZ


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OK, I am learning by the minute, I did not even know about the existence of external GPU's, I thought they always had to be built in, in the system (laptop, in this case). Would you recommend that above an internal card ?
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Tony359 wrote:A 3060 is a 3060 - the differences between manufacturers are:

- Cooling
- Noise
- RGB lighting
- minor overlocks
- overall building quality

If I had to choose a GPU, I'd select the one with the best cooling solution - that is, it has the biggest/better heatsink so it runs cool and quiet.


OK, since everyone is talking about NVIDIA Geforce, it could be another brand as well, just looking at the specs / reviews with regard to cooling quality
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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

PostFri Sep 06, 2024 11:39 pm

The newer RTX cards are typically larger (fatter?) so can be a tight fit in an eGPU enclosure. They also often have higher power requirements then older cards.

Check the size of the card VERY carefully ( height, length and width to the mm) to make sure it will fit in whatever eGPU enclosure you buy.

Also make sure your eGPU enclosure has a large enough power supply for the video card you intend to buy.

Be aware that performance from a laptop+eGPU combo is not as good as a desktop GPU because the thunderbolt port only provides 4 of the 16 PCIE lanes.
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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

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Alexander132 wrote:
GamerKitty Euphoric wrote:
I edit with 6VRAM (and it's mostly fine I work in 60FPS 2550 timelines which I believe is called 2k ) and I work with 120 hours of footage recorded also in 60 FPS, I do get lag here and there, but, it's manageable

I would recommend 12 VRAM if you can get it, though, I havn't noticed a massive difference --

Ontop of that, at minimum 16 RAM -- but I recommend 32RAM + at least. I run with 64 Ram

for the strip question, it's always better to have 2 of the same, than one of one. Ram works in pairs, sending information back and forth to easily multitask, that's why you never want to mix ram types. and if you do, 1 and 3 need to be the same ram. This helps the computer run faster. If you mix, or, use a single, you have less multitasking ability.


Yes, I meant RAM in the first place (the actual strips), the VRAM I just started to discover that this makes a difference too. The 4GB from my current NVIDIA 1650 appears not to be enough what I read here and elsewhere.

You mention you have 12 Gb (VRAM) on your card. Which card and brand is it ?
I am leaning towards the RTX 3060 12 GB which seems to be affordable (around 300).
And then an extra strip of 16 GB. You mention it needs to be the same, so I will see what is inside already and order an extra of the same. Does it make a difference if they are different brands ?seems
'Crucial' is said to be optimal with Dell (XPS 17)



I have 6 and 8, and it works great for me. Nvidia 3060 12GB is what I plan on upgrading to

RAM is more about quality, Crucial is really nice, the company is. I have all Crucial RAM on all my PCs and I've NEVER experianced a bad ram stick, after probably 20 or so
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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

PostSat Sep 07, 2024 12:45 am

I corrected my earlier typo, yes RTX3060.

I have no experience with eGPUs, besides hearing that they can be temperamental as to which work in which enclosure.

Both of my configurations work very well. I suffered long with an inadequate laptop before purchasing the one I have now with an good on-board Nvidia video card and a recent generation Intel CPU with built in video that will decode H.265 4:2:2 in hardware, which current no Nvidia or AMD card can do. The Intel video shares the CPU memory, hence the large amount of CPU memory. The reduced GPU memory compared to the desktop does not seem to be an issue. Both work smoothly.

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PostSun Sep 08, 2024 12:54 am

Alexander132 wrote:Would you recommend that above an internal card ?

You can’t put a GPU in that laptop. Your only 2 options are to replace the whole motherboard with one that has a better GPU on it, or the eGPU.


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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

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If you’re looking for an eGPU for your laptop, your laptop needs a thunderbolt port at least TB2 but I would go with TB3 or 4). The weakest link from your gpu in an eGPU is the connection and tb3 will go as fast as 40Gb/s. So considering a very performant GPU may not even be worth it. Having enough VRAM will be important (at least 8gb).

If you’re looking for a laptop just for Resolve, I’d go with something like this or look for a laptop with similar specs.
https://www.pugetsystems.com/solutions/ ... e/buy-437/
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Ellory Yu wrote:If you’re looking for an eGPU for your laptop, your laptop needs a thunderbolt port at least TB2 but I would go with TB3 or 4). The weakest link from your gpu in an eGPU is the connection and tb3 will go as fast as 40Gb/s. So considering a very performant GPU may not even be worth it. Having enough VRAM will be important (at least 8gb).

If you’re looking for a laptop just for Resolve, I’d go with something like this or look for a laptop with similar specs.
https://www.pugetsystems.com/solutions/ ... e/buy-437/



that is absolutely overkill lol.

unless you're doing lots of heavy editing like, severe VFX stuff ... that's overkill.
unless you're rich xD then go for it
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PostSun Sep 08, 2024 3:46 am

Upgrading laptops is rarely cost effective. You're better off taking the money you'd spend on the enclosure and GPU and buying a new modern laptop.

Your laptop isn't ancient but it's four or five generations old.

Also if you need to edit on the go do you want to haul the enclosure around?
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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

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GamerKitty Euphoric wrote:
Ellory Yu wrote:If you’re looking for an eGPU for your laptop, your laptop needs a thunderbolt port at least TB2 but I would go with TB3 or 4). The weakest link from your gpu in an eGPU is the connection and tb3 will go as fast as 40Gb/s. So considering a very performant GPU may not even be worth it. Having enough VRAM will be important (at least 8gb).

If you’re looking for a laptop just for Resolve, I’d go with something like this or look for a laptop with similar specs.
https://www.pugetsystems.com/solutions/ ... e/buy-437/



that is absolutely overkill lol.

unless you're doing lots of heavy editing like, severe VFX stuff ... that's overkill.
unless you're rich xD then go for it


If you’re doing this professionally, it’s not. Puget caters to professional editors and colorists. Many of the professionals here will have certain expectations and it’s not about because you’re rich unless you’re a hobbyist. It’s about getting the right tools that will do the job that pays you and your investments - also known as a “return on investment”.

And yes, if you’re a hobbyist, this kind of gear is not for you, unless you’re rich, lol.
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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

PostSun Sep 08, 2024 5:56 am

Ellory Yu wrote:
GamerKitty Euphoric wrote:
Ellory Yu wrote:If you’re looking for an eGPU for your laptop, your laptop needs a thunderbolt port at least TB2 but I would go with TB3 or 4). The weakest link from your gpu in an eGPU is the connection and tb3 will go as fast as 40Gb/s. So considering a very performant GPU may not even be worth it. Having enough VRAM will be important (at least 8gb).

If you’re looking for a laptop just for Resolve, I’d go with something like this or look for a laptop with similar specs.
https://www.pugetsystems.com/solutions/ ... e/buy-437/



that is absolutely overkill lol.

unless you're doing lots of heavy editing like, severe VFX stuff ... that's overkill.
unless you're rich xD then go for it


If you’re doing this professionally, it’s not. Puget caters to professional editors and colorists. Many of the professionals here will have certain expectations and it’s not about because you’re rich unless you’re a hobbyist. It’s about getting the right tools that will do the job that pays you and your investments - also known as a “return on investment”.

And yes, if you’re a hobbyist, this kind of gear is not for you, unless you’re rich, lol.


I can't find any details on that laptop screen. I am not a professional, and the laptop described in my signature was about half as much. It includes a very nice 14.5" OLED 400 nit 100% DCI-P3 screen. I hope for a laptop that costs twice as much that the Puget one is comparable.

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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

PostSun Sep 08, 2024 6:17 am

I don't think an eGPU is much of a solution these days any more. First, VRAM doesn't add up, so you'd have to switch off the internal GPU if you ever want to go to higher resolutions or use effects demanding much memory. Then, as Ellory already remarked above, you'll be bandwidth limited, which is throttling down really fast GPUs. Finally, why do you want a laptop in the first place? Probably to carry it around.

So, if it must be a laptop, get a new one. BTW, I'd also consider an Apple laptop, until the SnapDragons are really competitive. It doesn't need to be the latest model, but it should have at least 1.5 GB, better 2, per GPU core.

But if you can live with a desktop, it'll be the cheaper and more flexible solution. A PC with the GPU already recommended by others should be fine. And give it 64 GB if Fusion matters to you.
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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

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Mark, assuming we are taking about your current laptop with the above spec, I will say that GPU is sufficient for most HD, FHD, and even 4K UHD encoding and decoding. Even with just 8gb of VRAM, my experience is that should be enough, although more is always good. If just using Resolve Studio for editing and color grading, unless you’re dealing with codecs that are hard to work with like h.264, you should be fine. I also think since you have an i9 cpu, albeit it is the mobile version, it is new enough to have QS which helps perform better with hardware encode/decode of compressed formats. It’s not an ideal CPU for Fusion but I kind of rule out Fusion for now. Where you’re going to struggle is if you have 6K or higher files, and that where you will want to consider another system. The good people in this forum have already suggested other options so I won’t repeat it.

With that said, if you want smoother editing experience of 4K or less, use generate proxies and optimize media settings. You can also transcode your heavily compressed clips to something lighter for Resolve to work with- like Prores 422 or LT, or DNxHD. You can do this using through the Resolve Media Manager or 3rd party software like Shutter Encoder, which does a great job on Windows.

marklg wrote:I can't find any details on that laptop screen. I am not a professional, and the laptop described in my signature was about half as much.

The details of the Puget laptop can be seen if you scroll down the site page. I’m not saying go buy this. I’m saying look at the specs and use it for reference. You’ll find other brands that may be a lot cheaper. However not that the CPU and GPU are not mobile versions on the Puget which makes it harder to find such in consumer laptops.
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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

PostSun Sep 08, 2024 8:37 pm

Ellory Yu wrote:
ASUS 14.5" Zenbook Pro 14 OLED Multi-Touch Laptop, i9-13900H, 32G, 8G RTX 4070, Win11

Mark, assuming we are taking about your current laptop with the above spec, I will say that GPU is sufficient for most HD, FHD, and even 4K UHD encoding and decoding. Even with just 8gb of VRAM, my experience is that should be enough, although more is always good. If just using Resolve Studio for editing and color grading, unless you’re dealing with codecs that are hard to work with like h.264, you should be fine. I also think since you have an i9 cpu, albeit it is the mobile version, it is new enough to have QS which helps perform better with hardware encode/decode of compressed formats. It’s not an ideal CPU for Fusion but I kind of rule out Fusion for now. Where you’re going to struggle is if you have 6K or higher files, and that where you will want to consider another system. The good people in this forum have already suggested other options so I won’t repeat it.

With that said, if you want smoother editing experience of 4K or less, use generate proxies and optimize media settings. You can also transcode your heavily compressed clips to something lighter for Resolve to work with- like Prores 422 or LT, or DNxHD. You can do this using through the Resolve Media Manager or 3rd party software like Shutter Encoder, which does a great job on Windows.

marklg wrote:I can't find any details on that laptop screen. I am not a professional, and the laptop described in my signature was about half as much.

The details of the Puget laptop can be seen if you scroll down the site page. I’m not saying go buy this. I’m saying look at the specs and use it for reference. You’ll find other brands that may be a lot cheaper. However not that the CPU and GPU are not mobile versions on the Puget which makes it harder to find such in consumer laptops.


Thanks, I have already used the laptop for a couple projects and it ran smoothly. Resolve Studio makes good use of both GPUs. A good chunk of the system memory is used by the Intel GPU. I looked down the Puget page and can't see any info about the screen, size or specific type.

I am not a pro, and the laptop is just about perfect for me. I am just capturing life, a little color correction, cut out when Uncle Joe walks in front of the camera, etc. I don't do SFX at all, maybe some titling. As a comparison, I use Lightroom for images, not Photoshop. I am just trying to capture things as they really were with some tweaks.

Video has been a hobby for decades, and it is amazing what can be done now with things normal people can afford. I started out in High School a very long time ago, running Vidicon cameras and even ran a TK-12 Image Orthocon camera at the end if it's life. 4k is more than good enough for me now.

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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

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I now have my eye on an HP Z-book 17 G6 - 64 GB RAM - 1 TB SSD/1TB HDD / Nvidia Quadro RTX 4000 (8GB). It goes for less than € 1.000 and it is what I can afford at the moment.

I now know laptops are not ideal for video editing.
But would this suffice for working ? My HP Z-book G3 (with Quadro M 3000) had some hickups and not always working perfect, but at least I could work, with an occasional crash or slowing down.

I would sell the Dell XPS 17 then again (which I got for a very good price, so I might put something on top).
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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

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Alexander132 wrote:I now have my eye on an HP Z-book 17 G6 - 64 GB RAM - 1 TB SSD/1TB HDD / Nvidia Quadro RTX 4000 (8GB). It goes for less than € 1.000 and it is what I can afford at the moment.

I now know laptops are not ideal for video editing.
But would this suffice for working ? My HP Z-book G3 (with Quadro M 3000) had some hickups and not always working perfect, but at least I could work, with an occasional crash or slowing down.

I would sell the Dell XPS 17 then again (which I got for a very good price, so I might put something on top).

What CPU is that? Only the last couple generations of Intel CPUs include advanced decoding / encoding (QuickSync). I think 12th and 13th gen, but someone may correct me. Having that along with a Nvidia GPU is really well supported by Resolve.

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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

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marklg wrote:
Alexander132 wrote:I now have my eye on an HP Z-book 17 G6 - 64 GB RAM - 1 TB SSD/1TB HDD / Nvidia Quadro RTX 4000 (8GB). It goes for less than € 1.000 and it is what I can afford at the moment.

I now know laptops are not ideal for video editing.
But would this suffice for working ? My HP Z-book G3 (with Quadro M 3000) had some hickups and not always working perfect, but at least I could work, with an occasional crash or slowing down.

I would sell the Dell XPS 17 then again (which I got for a very good price, so I might put something on top).

What CPU is that? Only the last couple generations of Intel CPUs include advanced decoding / encoding (QuickSync). I think 12th and 13th gen, but someone may correct me. Having that along with a Nvidia GPU is really well supported by Resolve.

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Mark



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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

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I used Resolve as a colorist with RAW projects up to 6K in the timeline on 16 GB RAM a long time.
Now I have 32 RAM and have no memory issues, too.
I don't think I need 48 or 64 GB. The only thin place is an old video card performance.

After memory upgrade I had no visible changes.

Projects contain only internal Resolve filters. Many groups, many masks with a tracker and of course noise reduction.

I don't use Fusion a lot, only tracking and another cases for colorist tasks, if needed.

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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

PostTue Sep 10, 2024 6:08 pm

Hi everybody,

Still in confusion of what to do:
This is the laptop I found and that I can afford: (for 1.000)
HP Zbook 17 G6
Intel Core i7-9850H @ 2,60 GHz (9e Generatie)
64 GB – DDR4 RAM
1 TB – SSD + 1 TB HDD (dus 2TB totaal)
Resolutie: 1920×1080 (Full HD)
nVidia Quadro RTX 4000 8GB

Would this be an upgrade from my Dell XPS 17 9700?
Intel Core 17-10750H
Nvidia geforce GTX 1650 Ti

My current Dell has a younger processor 10 th, the HP a 9th generation.

Thanks for shining your light on this....
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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

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The cpu performance will be similar. Both have quicksync according to Intel’s site— not sure if it works w/ Resolve though.

The gpu is stronger, and 8GB can help depending on your timeline. But like with most Windows laptops, you’ll need to be plugged in (and set to high-performance power profile) to get full speed.


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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

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Alexander132 wrote:Hi everybody,

Still in confusion of what to do:
This is the laptop I found and that I can afford: (for 1.000)
HP Zbook 17 G6
Intel Core i7-9850H @ 2,60 GHz (9e Generatie)
64 GB – DDR4 RAM
1 TB – SSD + 1 TB HDD (dus 2TB totaal)
Resolutie: 1920×1080 (Full HD)
nVidia Quadro RTX 4000 8GB

Would this be an upgrade from my Dell XPS 17 9700?
Intel Core 17-10750H
Nvidia geforce GTX 1650 Ti

My current Dell has a younger processor 10 th, the HP a 9th generation.

Thanks for shining your light on this....

I would not say it’s an upgrade. Both cpu are really not much of an upgrade if any probably the new chip is all so slightly older. Both CPU does not have Quick Sync to help with decoding via hardware. The Quadro will likely provide a noticeable performance improvement in Resolve but not Fusion, still working no more than 4K resolution. I would keep my money.

If you’re just editing HD (1080p) timeline for posting on YouTube, you can still use your Dell and just generate proxies from your cpu/gpu intensive codecs (I.e. h.264/5, Sony) to something like DNxHD SB or Cineform to give you smoother playback. If you’re doing color correction, limit your nodes and use of effects. I would just try to make primary corrections to improve the quality of the image. Keeping this in mind, you should be able do edit and color with your Dell.
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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

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Ellory Yu wrote:
Alexander132 wrote:Hi everybody,

Still in confusion of what to do:
This is the laptop I found and that I can afford: (for 1.000)
HP Zbook 17 G6
Intel Core i7-9850H @ 2,60 GHz (9e Generatie)
64 GB – DDR4 RAM
1 TB – SSD + 1 TB HDD (dus 2TB totaal)
Resolutie: 1920×1080 (Full HD)
nVidia Quadro RTX 4000 8GB

Would this be an upgrade from my Dell XPS 17 9700?
Intel Core 17-10750H
Nvidia geforce GTX 1650 Ti

My current Dell has a younger processor 10 th, the HP a 9th generation.

Thanks for shining your light on this....

I would not say it’s an upgrade. Both cpu are really not much of an upgrade if any probably the new chip is all so slightly older. Both CPU does not have Quick Sync to help with decoding via hardware. The Quadro will likely provide a noticeable performance improvement in Resolve but not Fusion, still working no more than 4K resolution. I would keep my money.

If you’re just editing HD (1080p) timeline for posting on YouTube, you can still use your Dell and just generate proxies from your cpu/gpu intensive codecs (I.e. h.264/5, Sony) to something like DNxHD SB or Cineform to give you smoother playback. If you’re doing color correction, limit your nodes and use of effects. I would just try to make primary corrections to improve the quality of the image. Keeping this in mind, you should be able do edit and color with your Dell.


Thanks for that advice.
I still have 2 x brand new 16 GB ddr4 from my old (broken down) HP zbook G3, so 32 GB I could see if it makes a difference too. If necessary I could replace it even with 2 x 32 GB if that would make a difference. Would it ?
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Re: How much RAM for DR 19 Studio version ?

PostWed Sep 11, 2024 6:59 am

I don't think more than 32 GB matters much for DR, if there are no complex Fusion tasks involved.
As you can see, I have only 32 GB in my laptop, and the M1 is using RAM both for CPU and GPU. I never ran into memory issues, it may get slow with 6K sources in a 4K timeline and a few demanding processes, but I've yet to see and "out of memory" message.
The most important component for DR is your GPU. As already said above, it'll generally run at full speed only when connected to mains power. The few laptops which allow to run it fast off mains will not do that for long. Finally, mobile GPU versions do not deliver the same power as their desktop counterparts.
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