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Re: Pyxis 12K

PostThu May 22, 2025 11:06 pm

Chris thanks for the link to the mid49 lens support. While a bit pricey for me, (I found the Tilta lens support new for $60 on eBay) I did notice an excellent solution for XLR inputs. While it's also quite pricey at $275, but there is 10% first time purchase using "welcome10" I haven't seen another input so well thought out. I definitely will be recording audio with the Pyxis for my smaller projects. What so other people intent on using to get XLR into the mic input?

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Re: Pyxis 12K

PostFri May 23, 2025 4:36 pm

Thanks for these gear suggestions. That Mid49 lens support is a combination of two different supports I already have. The major component is almost an exact replica of my spare SLR Magic lens support.
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Re: Pyxis 12K

PostFri May 23, 2025 4:43 pm

Hey Rick,

Funny about it being similar to the SLR Magic Lens Support...if anything I would have thought it would be similar to Wooden Camera as I know that is where Mid49 came from

I also just kind of thing keeping builds like this "in the family" so to speak

Speaking of SLR Magic, I can't wait to see the SLR APOs on the P12k, although we'll be getting some Tiffen Black Diffusion FX filters to help with the sharpness :-)
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Re: Pyxis 12K

PostFri May 23, 2025 4:54 pm

It’s great we have the same primes. With their 46.5mm image circle, they’re going to work. Just a question of how much ‘character’ they’ll have on the larger sensor! I’m hopeful they’ll be fine or good enough. A lot of my videos require good performance across the frame, so it’s not like my subjects always occupy a comfortable Super35 zone when I know they need to handle these LF sensors too.
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Re: Pyxis 12K and tariffs

PostSat May 24, 2025 1:00 pm

I live in Canada, so why does Black Magic "penalize" Canada with their cameras/products with product they ship directly to Canadian retailers? That just isn't right, IMO. We should pay a tariff increase when we (Canada) are not charging one.

Am I understanding this situation correctly?
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Pyxis 12K

PostMon May 26, 2025 12:04 am

timbutt2 wrote:… I still also want Blackmagic to put the 12K sensor in a still photography camera. So if they did that with L Mount that would prompt me to invest in L Mount glass for stills.


I think this would be a terrific surprise to include in the Pyxis 12K LF shooting open gate producing an image just like a traditional full frame film camera.

One of my clients for whom I shoot video also has me shooting stills so being able to use the Pyxis 12K LF for both would be most appreciated with that high resolution and excellent colour.
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Re: Pyxis 12K

PostMon May 26, 2025 11:35 am

rick.lang wrote:
timbutt2 wrote:… I still also want Blackmagic to put the 12K sensor in a still photography camera. So if they did that with L Mount that would prompt me to invest in L Mount glass for stills.


I think this would be a terrific surprise to include in the Pyxis 12K LF shooting open gate producing an image just like a traditional full frame film camera.

One of my clients for whom I shoot video also has me shooting stills so being able to use the Pyxis 12K LF for both would be most appreciated with that high resolution and excellent colour.
Yeah, but the PYXIS is still not the right body design. Traditional film camera design, which Canon, Sony, and Nikon have all done. The EVF should be built into the body and not be an attachment.

So take the BMCC6K and make it a bit more compact. Maybe shrink the LCD size a bit and go fully rotatable and articulating. I really like the way my Sony A7IV LCD articulates because I can put the camera to the ground in vertical and have the LCD 90° with the body for me to shoot.

Overall, less video recording capabilities and an emphasis on stills image capture. But with this brilliant 12K sensor. I can already tell you that I would instantly drop my Sony in favor of this.

Even yesterday my photographer buddy with a Canon R6ii said the URSA Cine 12K has more dynamic range than his camera. Just looking at the AC LCD Screen he could tell how much better range the camera had than his stills camera. That’s a huge testament to what Blackmagic has achieved.


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Re: Pyxis 12K

PostMon May 26, 2025 11:55 am

I’m assuming this is not a request for a dedicated stills camera just a BMCC 12K LF with continuous auto focus tracking for cinema and an additional stills with an adjustable EVF option.

Maybe BMD will debate this internally and, who knows, you might see this in the future and we might also have that capability in a 2026 Pyxis. Your option would be ideal for normal stills use cases with lighter LF photo lenses; my option would suit me better as I’d continue to have the Pyxis on a tripod with potentially a large 5x zoom or the heavier original SLR Magic APO cine primes.
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PostMon May 26, 2025 1:53 pm

I just wrapped the first installment of a doc with the Pyxis 6k and APO Microprimes.
EVERYONE loved the look of the lenses.
We ran two Pyxis 6k's and had them rigged up.
I REALLY liked the Mid49 offerings of the cages and the side plate + Audio breakout box. We were renting, as both me as the DP and B Cam Op have preorders for the Pyxis 12k, and they came kitted with cages and various parts.

We DID have some random issues, though, I didn't think to check the firmware to see if any issues might have been resolved with an update.
- Timecode resetting (using a tentacle, we had B Cam needing to be re-synced every power up)
- Random switching on the SDI out from 1080p to 2160p, making me assume the SDI port had blown
- General underperformance in low-light, rolling shutter (we had NO time to set up lighting except for interviews, and we alleviated motion with easyRig/Stabil rigs)

All in all, it worked, but I cannot wait for the better-performing 12k to arrive. After working with the Ursa Mini Pro bodies for so long, I enjoyed the form factor of the Pyxis. Though, any time I had to dial in settings it was a bit of a pain to bring the camera up in an awkward hold to make adjustments. (I did only have 2 hours prior to call time to make adjustments and that time was spent making the rig work for my style.)
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Re: Pyxis 12K

PostMon May 26, 2025 3:12 pm

Adam Langdon wrote:I just wrapped the first installment of a doc with the Pyxis 6k and APO Microprimes.
EVERYONE loved the look of the lenses.
We ran two Pyxis 6k's and had them rigged up…
I did only have 2 hours prior to call time to make adjustments and that time was spent making the rig work for my style.)


Sounds like you did a great job with so little time for prepping two cameras. Those sync and SDI issues just shouldn’t be happening. I don’t turn off my cameras, unless it’s needed due to power, until the shoot is over. That might account for the sync and SDI behaviour, but I’m not sure.
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Re: Pyxis 12K

PostTue May 27, 2025 4:56 pm

Apparently there's a dude with a "review model" on YouTube...
So, if true, hopefully that means just a few more weeks??

https://youtube.com/shorts/0-tqNyF-CZs? ... 2cKEhRmOfm
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Re: Pyxis 12K

PostTue May 27, 2025 5:29 pm

Adam Langdon wrote:Apparently there's a dude with a "review model" on YouTube...
So, if true, hopefully that means just a few more weeks??

https://youtube.com/shorts/0-tqNyF-CZs? ... 2cKEhRmOfm

A friend told me that he gets his pre-ordered camera from B&H in a week and a half. This was after I shared the latest URSA Cine 12K test video that I made public today. If the footage from the PYXIS 12K is as good as the URSA Cine then everyone is in for a real treat.
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Re: Pyxis 12K

PostTue May 27, 2025 10:17 pm

Adam Langdon wrote:Apparently there's a dude with a "review model" on YouTube...
So, if true, hopefully that means just a few more weeks??

https://youtube.com/shorts/0-tqNyF-CZs? ... 2cKEhRmOfm


Interesting find but feel like it doesn’t pass the smell test. Why would a fairly small YouTube account with 4000 followers receive the camera before all the other reviewers?
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PostWed May 28, 2025 3:19 am

I've been looking for wide angle options for the Pyxis in an attempt to get the camera working asap. My current S35 lens is the Tokina 11-20, which I love, but since it's the still version (same glass as cinema) I can't control the iris without an expensive adaptor, if that will even work.

I was looking at the Catta Ace16-35, (since I own the 35-80) but was afraid it wouldn't be wide enough.

I was also eyeing the new yet to be released Laowa zero distortion lenses (9-10-12-14), and in checking B&H's website just now, for some strange reason they had a used 14mm PL mount at a nice discount and I bought it. Perhaps it's a sample sent to a reviewer they then decided to sell? Not sure how else B&H would get a lens that isn't yet released.

Anyway the 14mm will be here Thursday to try out on the Pyxis as soon as I get it.

Not really sure if it will match my SLR Magic APO's in any way, but it was nice to read Adam's post here about how much everyone liked the APO's.
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PostWed May 28, 2025 3:46 am

I suspect you’ve made a good decision to try the Laowa 14mm ‘full frame’ prime. If you’re used to shooting with a Super35 sensor, that 14mm LF field of view is comparable to a 10mm lens on Super35.
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Re: Pyxis 12K

PostWed May 28, 2025 4:43 am

Paul Jonathan wrote:
Adam Langdon wrote:Apparently there's a dude with a "review model" on YouTube...
So, if true, hopefully that means just a few more weeks??

https://youtube.com/shorts/0-tqNyF-CZs? ... 2cKEhRmOfm


Interesting find but feel like it doesn’t pass the smell test. Why would a fairly small YouTube account with 4000 followers receive the camera before all the other reviewers?


I think he is a click baiter, could have at least tease us with a 12k logo but instead it could be a Pyxis 6k.
If there is no new camera firmware update for this camera by friday all this talk about B&H getting Pyxis 12k in on the 1st June is vapourware.
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PostWed May 28, 2025 4:47 am

WahWay wrote:
Paul Jonathan wrote:
Adam Langdon wrote:Apparently there's a dude with a "review model" on YouTube...
So, if true, hopefully that means just a few more weeks??

https://youtube.com/shorts/0-tqNyF-CZs? ... 2cKEhRmOfm


Interesting find but feel like it doesn’t pass the smell test. Why would a fairly small YouTube account with 4000 followers receive the camera before all the other reviewers?


I think he is a click baiter, could have at least tease us with a 12k logo but instead it could be a Pyxis 6k.
If there is no new camera firmware update for this camera by friday all this talk about B&H getting Pyxis 12k in on the 1st June is vapourware.
I don’t know. Blackmagic did just release DaVinci Resolve 20 in record time. Less than 2-months of it being in Beta. It’s very possible that Blackmagic could release that firmware update and announce cameras are shipping on June 2nd.


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Re: Pyxis 12K

PostWed May 28, 2025 11:05 am

Question for everyone -

Of course I’m aware of where I am asking this question, but for those of you who pre-ordered the P12k like myself, was anyone considering or in between that and the Komodo X?

Would love to hear people’s thoughts…
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PostWed May 28, 2025 2:35 pm

Texaco87 wrote:Question for everyone -

Of course I’m aware of where I am asking this question, but for those of you who pre-ordered the P12k like myself, was anyone considering or in between that and the Komodo X?

Would love to hear people’s thoughts…


I have the KX, pyxis 6k, and BMCC6KFF and will be getting the Pyxis 12K. If I were deciding between the KX and P12K, I'd grab the 12K no question. I'll definitely be comparing the two when I get the Pyxis 12K. I honestly grab the Pyxis 6K more often than my KX these days.
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Re: Pyxis 12K

PostWed May 28, 2025 2:50 pm

Oh man, what's up Tyler! I was just re-watching your Pyxis 6k vs KX video this morning haha

I'm glad to hear that's your take, would you be able to elaborate on why a little bit

And yeah I was just thinking this morning, I bet KX vs. P12k comparison videos will be incoming lol
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PostWed May 28, 2025 4:07 pm

I think Rakesh Malik posted he will likely part with his Komodo after shooting with the Pyxis 12K. Hope to see a comparison of cameras from him as well. I always hoped for a global shutter camera, but now that BMD has support for 16 stops dynamic range and given that I’m no longer shooting action subjects, yes please, I’ll take the Pyxis 12K or Cine 12K over Komodo-X.
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PostWed May 28, 2025 4:12 pm

Tyler Edwards wrote:… If I were deciding between the KX and P12K, I'd grab the 12K no question. I'll definitely be comparing the two when I get the Pyxis 12K...


Thanks, Tyler, that’ll be a highly anticipated shootout to see.
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PostWed May 28, 2025 4:16 pm

WahWay wrote:… I think he is a click baiter, could have at least tease us with a 12k logo but instead it could be a Pyxis 6k...


Hmm, could be a perspicacious insight.
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PostWed May 28, 2025 4:55 pm

I mean, Global Shutter is great. I wonder if Blackmagic took the 12K and did another pixel size increase to get 8K VistaVision Global Shutter whether it would be able to retain the same 16 Stops of Dynamic Range? If the sensor still retained the detailed images we get in 12K in a new 8K GS sensor then they would be probably one of the most incredible things. And, I bet it would make a lot of people happy due to the data rates needed for 12K.

Overall, I love the 12K dynamic range. And, I’m primarily going to shoot the 12K resolution when I want the most dynamic range. Otherwise, 8K will be sufficient enough.

This weekend at the Model & Photographer Meet Up Event I’ll do some 8K testing. I’m probably going to shoot 8K 2.4:1 to see how it all looks. Mainly I want to really see if the minor ⅓ stop loss in dynamic range really matters. At the same time I want to get some widescreen footage.

No matter what the 12K is incredible! I’m going to be very interested to see how the PYXIS compares. More than likely 8K on the PYXIS will be as good as the 12K on the UCine in terms of rolling shutter. However, you do suffer that minor loss in DR. So it makes it nice that you can choose what matters most: dynamic range, or motion in sensor readout to reduce rolling shutter.


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Texaco87 wrote:Oh man, what's up Tyler! I was just re-watching your Pyxis 6k vs KX video this morning haha

I'm glad to hear that's your take, would you be able to elaborate on why a little bit

And yeah I was just thinking this morning, I bet KX vs. P12k comparison videos will be incoming lol


That's awesome! Hope it was helpful.

For my workflow, the KX really only has two distinct advantages over the Pyxis 6K; global shutter and lowlight performance. The Pyxis 12K (in 8K/4K which is what I will mostly use) has a readout speed of 10.89ms in 17:9 which is really quite good--pretty close to V-Raptor IIRC. That does away with one of the KX's advantages. Lowlight remains to be seen and won't know until I test, but from what I have seen from the URSA Cine 12K, the shadows appear to be very clean (especially compared to the Pyxis 6K). That is something I look forward to testing.

Other things like no cropping in lower resolutions like you get on KX, better frame rate options, more DR, BRAW, gyro data for stabilization (i think?), 3:2 sensor, 10Gbe port and proxy recording are a few other things that come to mind.

This is, of course, all relative to my workflow and needs.
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PostWed May 28, 2025 5:09 pm

Tyler, Pyxis includes a gyroscope.
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any suggestions for handgrip with rosette and bluetooth for camera start/stop? Do people like wood handgrips?
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PostWed May 28, 2025 7:20 pm

Tyler Edwards wrote:
Texaco87 wrote:Oh man, what's up Tyler! I was just re-watching your Pyxis 6k vs KX video this morning haha

I'm glad to hear that's your take, would you be able to elaborate on why a little bit

And yeah I was just thinking this morning, I bet KX vs. P12k comparison videos will be incoming lol


That's awesome! Hope it was helpful.

For my workflow, the KX really only has two distinct advantages over the Pyxis 6K; global shutter and lowlight performance. The Pyxis 12K (in 8K/4K which is what I will mostly use) has a readout speed of 10.89ms in 17:9 which is really quite good--pretty close to V-Raptor IIRC. That does away with one of the KX's advantages. Lowlight remains to be seen and won't know until I test, but from what I have seen from the URSA Cine 12K, the shadows appear to be very clean (especially compared to the Pyxis 6K). That is something I look forward to testing.

Other things like no cropping in lower resolutions like you get on KX, better frame rate options, more DR, BRAW, gyro data for stabilization (i think?), 3:2 sensor, 10Gbe port and proxy recording are a few other things that come to mind.

This is, of course, all relative to my workflow and needs.

Both the UC12K and P12K have Gyroscope built in. In 8K on the UC12K you'll have double the sensor readout speed than the P12K, which makes it really nice! And, same for 12K mode. So, if you don't need faster sensor readout and you need the dynamic range boost then shoot in 12K as you'll get a bit more dynamic range. Totally worth it for the beautiful 16 stops of DR.

You're gonna love it.
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Tyler Edwards wrote:
Texaco87 wrote:Oh man, what's up Tyler! I was just re-watching your Pyxis 6k vs KX video this morning haha

I'm glad to hear that's your take, would you be able to elaborate on why a little bit

And yeah I was just thinking this morning, I bet KX vs. P12k comparison videos will be incoming lol


That's awesome! Hope it was helpful.

For my workflow, the KX really only has two distinct advantages over the Pyxis 6K; global shutter and lowlight performance. The Pyxis 12K (in 8K/4K which is what I will mostly use) has a readout speed of 10.89ms in 17:9 which is really quite good--pretty close to V-Raptor IIRC. That does away with one of the KX's advantages. Lowlight remains to be seen and won't know until I test, but from what I have seen from the URSA Cine 12K, the shadows appear to be very clean (especially compared to the Pyxis 6K). That is something I look forward to testing.

Other things like no cropping in lower resolutions like you get on KX, better frame rate options, more DR, BRAW, gyro data for stabilization (i think?), 3:2 sensor, 10Gbe port and proxy recording are a few other things that come to mind.

This is, of course, all relative to my workflow and needs.

Both the UC12K and P12K have Gyroscope built in. In 8K on the UC12K you'll have double the sensor readout speed than the P12K, which makes it really nice! And, same for 12K mode. So, if you don't need faster sensor readout and you need the dynamic range boost then shoot in 12K as you'll get a bit more dynamic range. Totally worth it for the beautiful 16 stops of DR.

You're gonna love it.


I had a feeling they had gyroscope but I never like to assume lol. The UC12K looks incredible. If I get around to selling my KX, I might have to get one lol
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PostWed May 28, 2025 8:00 pm

Tyler Edwards wrote:
timbutt2 wrote:Both the UC12K and P12K have Gyroscope built in. In 8K on the UC12K you'll have double the sensor readout speed than the P12K, which makes it really nice! And, same for 12K mode. So, if you don't need faster sensor readout and you need the dynamic range boost then shoot in 12K as you'll get a bit more dynamic range. Totally worth it for the beautiful 16 stops of DR.

You're gonna love it.


I had a feeling they had gyroscope but I never like to assume lol. The UC12K looks incredible. If I get around to selling my KX, I might have to get one lol

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PostFri May 30, 2025 7:18 am

rick.lang wrote:I think Rakesh Malik posted he will likely part with his Komodo after shooting with the Pyxis 12K. Hope to see a comparison of cameras from him as well. I always hoped for a global shutter camera, but now that BMD has support for 16 stops dynamic range and given that I’m no longer shooting action subjects, yes please, I’ll take the Pyxis 12K or Cine 12K over Komodo-X.


More like eventually rather than likely, to be honest.

Set life with matching cameras is easier than with mismatched cameras, and in post it's even nicer.

I will miss the global shutter though, at least a little bit. It's not been that big a deal though; it's only ever affected filming gunfire, and once you know how to do it, adding muzzle flash in Nuke is a piece of cake.

Presumably it's not that hard in Fusion, but Fusion roto still sucks so I try not to use it.
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PostFri May 30, 2025 7:24 am

Richard Dean wrote:any suggestions for handgrip with rosette and bluetooth for camera start/stop? Do people like wood handgrips?


Shape. Wooden Camera and Kondor Blue probably also have some nice ones, but Shape is Canadian.

Also I discovered that Shape's B-mount batteries cost less and have higher capacity than every other option I could find at Vistek.

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PostFri May 30, 2025 12:39 pm

Richard Dean wrote:any suggestions for handgrip with rosette and bluetooth for camera start/stop? Do people like wood handgrips?

In March I got this from AliExpress to the USA:

Nitze PA32A Left Right Side Handles with ARRI Rosette for Camera Field Monitor Cage seller:
S7nwayfoto Photographic $37.42 USD

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PostFri May 30, 2025 2:19 pm

Received the Camvate sideplate yesterday and wanted to share some images here. Don't have a Pyxis body yet, but so far seems like a very good budget solution at a fraction of the price of other offerings. The included allen key and the M4 threads are a bit useless, but also not a deal breaker for me.

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Now that Pyxis 12k just needs to arrive here (:
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PostFri May 30, 2025 2:50 pm

I know it sounds a bit ridiculous, but I'm planning on rigging my Pyxis 12k up with the nicest stuff I can get. My hope is that the Pyxis 12k will be my camera for a long while (4-5 years), unless a v2 comes out with better performance.

- Kippertie Revolva L/PL (clear, 2,4,7 stops)
- Mid49 Cage w/ Rainbow Handle
- Mid49 DB-9 V Mount Battery Plate
- Core SWX Nano 150Wh Batteries

I'm gonna start with just the Cage and Revolva for now. I have ran a Cine 7 via the SDI and utilized a cheap Shimbol Wireless HDMI via the viewfinder out for Client/Director Monitor.

I know that I could get a Cine 12k for the price of all the accessories, but the thing I'm finding is that I need to stay portable and travel as light as I can. The Pxyis, stripped down, can run extremely portable and even utilize an alternative battery solution. I didn't enjoy the Pyxis Monitor, so I'll always have that to power.
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PostFri May 30, 2025 3:48 pm

Adam Langdon wrote:... My hope is that the Pyxis 12k will be my camera for a long while (4-5 years), unless a v2 comes out with better performance...


I truly appreciate the lighter weight of the Pyxis. I’d also like to add the DJI Focus Pro. My UM4.6K will be ten years old at NAB2026 and likely still going strong. The Pyxis brain and my brain will be in a slow race to the end. Lenses last forever.
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PostFri May 30, 2025 6:46 pm

Adam, we have the exact same approach, along with considering the P12k to be an endgame camera and will probably actually have very similar setups, especially with SLR APOs haha

The only difference is we went with the ARCA top handle and the TWIST Mount EVF Kit with Old-Style SmallHD 1/4-20 (TWIST Mount Kit with Monitor Right Angle Adapter + Spud with Old-Style SmallHD 1/4-20) so we can run our 503 as an EVF of sorts

But even down to the batteries I think we got all the same stuff lol

Also, please don't talk about a v2, my heart can't take it
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PostFri May 30, 2025 7:07 pm

A lot of indie productions have been using Komodos as A cameras.

That the Pyxis 12K would do just fine as an A camera is therefore a foregone conclusion; it's a much nicer camera -- as one would expect for 5-6 years of progress, not even accounting for the lovely new sensor.
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PostFri May 30, 2025 7:08 pm

Just an update - my understanding is that now the L mount version is not being delivered early June, but the PL and EF mounts are. This is a bummer for me several reasons including the fact that my accessories may be past the 30 day return window or close to it once the camera arrives. Glad I didn't sell my EVA-1's just yet.
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PostFri May 30, 2025 7:10 pm

That is a bummer, because the L-mount version is IMO the best one; it's the most flexible. I added one of the Dulens adapter kits to my lens order for that purpose. Fortuitously that also means I'll be able to use the Dulens lenses on my Komodo while awaiting my UC12K.
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PostFri May 30, 2025 7:49 pm

Richard Dean wrote:Just an update - my understanding is that now the L mount version is not being delivered early June, but the PL and EF mounts are. This is a bummer for me several reasons including the fact that my accessories may be past the 30 day return window or close to it once the camera arrives. Glad I didn't sell my EVA-1's just yet.


where did you hear this?
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PostFri May 30, 2025 10:57 pm

I know a guy who knows another guy who's cousin......

I called B&H and then confirmed on their website that the PL and EF says early june and L says coming soon. (it also used to say early june) B&H had originally says they expected June 1.
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PostSat May 31, 2025 5:12 am

BMD always release video samples from new cameras on their website days if not weeks even months before paying customers gets theirs. Also they release new firmware for new cameras before it goes out to retailers. I doubt they are doing any updates on their website this weekend for a Sunday 1st June release. B&H claims a delivery arriving on that day :lol: Maybe cameras for beta testers.
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PostSat May 31, 2025 11:17 am

WahWay wrote:BMD always release video samples from new cameras on their website days if not weeks even months before paying customers gets theirs. Also they release new firmware for new cameras before it goes out to retailers. I doubt they are doing any updates on their website this weekend for a Sunday 1st June release. B&H claims a delivery arriving on that day :lol: Maybe cameras for beta testers.
We have video samples: from the URSA Cine 12K. It’s the same sensor.

Generally the Pocket 6K to Pocket 6K Pro and then Pocket 6K G2 didn’t require new videos for the releases before getting in hands of customers because it was the same sensor. At least I don’t remember there being any videos from beta testers releasing for any of those Pro/G2 releases.

We have the PYXIS 6K for people talking about the body. We have the URSA Cine 12K for samples from the sensor. The only major difference is sensor readout speed and max frame rates. Otherwise, same body and same sensor. Thus I don’t think they need as much as a marketing push.

That’s what I think. My buddy says he is getting his PYXIS 12K next week. Another said he should have his by June 11th. They both ordered from B&H and Adorama. So I feel that indicates that less beta testing and YouTuber Marketing for this.

Can’t say for certain. But that’s what it feels like. So purchasers will have cameras in hand soon.


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Re: Pyxis 12K

PostSat May 31, 2025 5:39 pm

timbutt2 wrote:
WahWay wrote:BMD always release video samples from new cameras on their website days if not weeks even months before paying customers gets theirs. Also they release new firmware for new cameras before it goes out to retailers. I doubt they are doing any updates on their website this weekend for a Sunday 1st June release. B&H claims a delivery arriving on that day :lol: Maybe cameras for beta testers.
We have video samples: from the URSA Cine 12K. It’s the same sensor.

Generally the Pocket 6K to Pocket 6K Pro and then Pocket 6K G2 didn’t require new videos for the releases before getting in hands of customers because it was the same sensor. At least I don’t remember there being any videos from beta testers releasing for any of those Pro/G2 releases.

We have the PYXIS 6K for people talking about the body. We have the URSA Cine 12K for samples from the sensor. The only major difference is sensor readout speed and max frame rates. Otherwise, same body and same sensor. Thus I don’t think they need as much as a marketing push.

That’s what I think. My buddy says he is getting his PYXIS 12K next week. Another said he should have his by June 11th. They both ordered from B&H and Adorama. So I feel that indicates that less beta testing and YouTuber Marketing for this.

Can’t say for certain. But that’s what it feels like. So purchasers will have cameras in hand soon.


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You are not getting it. Same sensore don't translate to same camera performance. BMD knew this thats why they don't use footage from BMCC6K for Pyxis 6K product page. Cine 12k is not the same as Pyxis 12k, different electronics heat dissipation and body, different performance and read speed. There is going to be differences. BMD is a big enough company has made lots of cameras with plenty of beta testers, they arent going to depend on Cine 12k footages as reliable representative of the Pyxis 12k. I bet 100% there will be diffferences in IQ,

I'm not against the Cine 12k but you keep posting footages from that camera on the Pyxis 12k thread which potentially misrepresent what the Pyxis 12k can do.
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PostSat May 31, 2025 6:12 pm

I expect there will be footage posted to BMD product pages for the Pyxis 12K in June even if the results appeared to be a good match with Cine 12K because those images will help sell Pyxis 12K whether it is used as Camera A or especially to demonstrate its ease of use as Camera B to match to a Cine 12K as Camera A. The latter use case will become a common practice among those who purchase a Cine 12K.

Shooting with at least two cameras makes a world of difference to your client deliverables. Having these two cameras be a very close match is important to everyone.
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PostSat May 31, 2025 9:43 pm

The friends getting the PYXIS 12K will be on my go to call list to be B-Cam to my UC12K anytime I need a B-Cam in the future. For now I’m sticking to my P6KPro purely because of internal ND. So far it’s working fine as a B, but a P12K will be a far better fit.

I’m so enamored by the 12K sensor in the UCine that I’m positive the 12K in the PYXIS will be as great.

By the way, some early PYXIS 6K footage on the BMD website after announcement was from the BMCC6K. It was, as I know the person who shot it as it was posted by him on his socials crediting the BMCC6K before the announcement for the PYXIS.

But we may still see some PYXIS 12K footage soon from beta testers. More than likely there’s an embargo.


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PostSat May 31, 2025 9:47 pm

Love all the discussion in this thread, makes the waiting so much nicer (:

Pretty much the last essential piece missing in my kit is CFExpress cards. I don't think I'll be shooting much 3:1 40 FPS Open Gate, but would be nice to have cards that could in theory support that data rate. There seem to be a few cards at BH with the right write-rate, but they are not listed on the official Blackmagic recommended media list. So what cards are people in this thread going for? Looking for 1TB, 2TB max - ideally three of them at a decent price.
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Re: Pyxis 12K

PostSun Jun 01, 2025 8:17 am

timbutt2 wrote:The friends getting the PYXIS 12K will be on my go to call list to be B-Cam to my UC12K anytime I need a B-Cam in the future. For now I’m sticking to my P6KPro purely because of internal ND. So far it’s working fine as a B, but a P12K will be a far better fit.

I’m so enamored by the 12K sensor in the UCine that I’m positive the 12K in the PYXIS will be as great.

By the way, some early PYXIS 6K footage on the BMD website after announcement was from the BMCC6K. It was, as I know the person who shot it as it was posted by him on his socials crediting the BMCC6K before the announcement for the PYXIS.

But we may still see some PYXIS 12K footage soon from beta testers. More than likely there’s an embargo.


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That was early on when betes testers were still putting it to the test and they did'nt have the Pyxis 6K out to retailers which is exactly the points I'm making, that the Pyxis 12k is not available on June 1st because no actual footages is avialable. BMCC6K is also suppose to share the same if not very close electronics with the Pyxis 6K. Same sensor on different cameras does not mean same IQ. BMD Pocket cameras has been using Sony sensors but all look very different to how Sony does with it.
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Re: CFexpress Cards

PostSun Jun 01, 2025 8:15 pm

Paul Jonathan wrote:Love all the discussion in this thread, makes the waiting so much nicer (:

Pretty much the last essential piece missing in my kit is CFExpress cards. I don't think I'll be shooting much 3:1 40 FPS Open Gate, but would be nice to have cards that could in theory support that data rate. There seem to be a few cards at BH with the right write-rate, but they are not listed on the official Blackmagic recommended media list. So what cards are people in this thread going for? Looking for 1TB, 2TB max - ideally three of them at a decent price.


Based on Tim's experience, I went with AngelBird AV Pro v4 cards. 4 1 TB cards so that I'll have two per camera when I (eventually) get a Pyxis 12K.

They're rated for 3700 Mbps, and Angelbird cards are very reliable so I'm pretty confident in them.
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