JON s wrote: If BMD was the one spending the money on that engineering R&D, then they own it and have the right to shop it out to other production facilities. It's not a simplistic idea to have alternative production companies. They most likely found the one that bid the lowest for the job.
So I'm going to pull you up again. I thought I explained in my previous post.
The sensor in the current BMCC is unique. No one else makes one exactly like it. When BMD decided to make a camera, they looked around at all the sensors that were available that they could buy and they CHOSE this one. Not because it was cheap, as you infer, but because it offered amazing DR and performance for a relatively large sensor size. They looked at larger (4k) and super 35 but they all became a LOT more expensive. There are also only a couple of people making sensors that big. At the slightly smaller size they were able to find a sensor that had amazing performance, that hadn't really been using for motion imaging before.
It wasn't put out to tender. BMD did not award it to the cheapest lowest cost provider. They specifically chose this sensor as the one that would meet their design goals...to make a low cost, very high dynamic range, high bit depth uncompressed camera, with as large a sensor as they could find that would meet those lofty imaging criteria.
You really and truly can't just substitute another *sensor* in there. It doesn't work like that.
Now after specifically choosing this ONE sensor only made by this company, they then had to spend a lot of man-hours adapting it to what they wanted to do. This work is SPECIFIC to the sensor. That is why I say you can't just substitute another sensor.
Even if there WAS another supplier that made a sensor with the same specs, they can't just use all that engineering r&d on the NEW substitute sensor. They start again from square 1. They are custom engineered for each job they do. They literally have to *programmed* from the ground up. You don't just connect a couple of wires and put some power into it to get an image.
I am not a camera engineer. Im not an anything engineer. I'm just a DOP. All of this I've learned by being involved with this project.
Yeah they just started with a sensor off the shelf. but it's kind of like buying an engine off the shelf. You still have to build the car and the computer that controls the engine performance. Yeah you can just turn it over and it will run, but to get the utmost out of it, there's a lot of work that's done to the transmission, the suspension, the chassis of the car. It's more holistic than that.
And this is why, even though anyone can buy a sensor off the shelf, to *finish* and tune the camera as well as BMD have, is actually a whole lot more difficult.
And this is why, it will be difficult for companies like Kine Raw to comepte. they wil be able to make a camera that makes pictures, but will it have the same DR ? Will it have the same colour range and look ? I suspect they will find it difficult.
BMD had a huge head start with uncompressed recording (hyperdecks) and with colour science and de-bayering with their IP from Resolve, the colour correction tool used int he vast majority of high end TV and studio film production made for consumers.
This is why the BMCC performs "beyond it's specs".
JON s wrote: And as for not publishing the numbers because it's privileged information is the biggest cop out I have ever heard. Most companies brag about that sort of thing. Oh, but you probably want examples to back that up. Why don't you look up how many Ipads, Iphones, Ipods, smartphones, HD tv, video game systems, etc.. that all of those companies make. Most companies that don't have anything to hide, freely share that information.
Well I'm going to call you on this one too.
They don't share this information. They don't share production capacity. At most, with some of the mass consumer electronics companies they will report their historical manufacturing, but that's usually because they are publicly listed companies and have to report to the financial markets.,
BMD is a privately owned company and they don't have to report anything.
Once again, I reiterate... I can't think of another camera manufacturer that reports it's ongoing or current production capacity.
JON s wrote: I only paid my money in advance based upon information told to me by the totally respectable corporation.
Whilst you certainly have paid money on the *promise* of a camera, any reputable dealer wouldn't hold a gun to your head if you want to cancel your order. And on a new product, I can't imagine any dealer would hold the full purchase price of the camera with the delays that have been experienced.
If this is the case with you, then i suggest you put it to them that you deserve a refund.
And I should add, the money you have paid is to a dealer, not BMD.
Im not trying to excuse the delay. BMD are painfully aware of the dissatisfaction.
jb