[Solved] DaVinci Resolve Lite for Linux request

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Re: DaVinci Resolve Lite for Linux request

PostFri Feb 10, 2017 12:31 am

Martin,

To be clear - I wrote this from business / consumer perspective. As a software developer I appreciate opensource solutions, collaboration and communities. But we/they shouldn't force anyone to do it that way. And yes, there are some businesses built top of open source product(s), but not every software manufacturer should/can do it that way.

From the technical perspective it is better to provide opened sources, because whole "dependency hell" is solved by distro maintainers (also hired in companies like Canonical or RedHat). But, as you stated here, there are some intelectual properties to be secured, and compilation process is a common way to do that (reverse engineering is prohibited by law/license, in general).

But many companies invests in Linux (mostly kernel) like Intel, IBM, RedHat, Samsung. They do that for some reason, probably business one. I belive that companies like BMD can do similar, if they find some revenue from such work.

BMD has Linux port of Resolve, yes, and probably codebase better than Adobe (in terms of portability). But maintaining any software is not cheap and can't be free. There must be real business around this. Even for pure opensourced projects there is business somewhere.

I belive that BMD have the best perspective and they know what they are doing. There may be "tons" of problems to solve, even licensing of the 3rd party libs (codecs, fxs, etc). They officially said nothing about Linux port, right? So there is a little hope and Fusion may be a kind of the market test. But on the other side we should no longer wait nor ask for Resolve. It is better to support companies developing actively their products also for Linux.

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Re: DaVinci Resolve Lite for Linux request

PostFri Feb 10, 2017 1:19 pm

@waltervolpatto: thanks for the short answer, now its clear that I have to dig around somewhere else...

@Marcin Nowak: already tried Lightworks, its a bit a weird workflow, it seems that I have to decide to learn Lightworks or Blender (which seems to be pretty powerfull in video as well). Both have workflows and shortcuts we are not used to.

About opensource:
Linux softwares don't have to be opensource nor free.
I also have a product on the market which is opensource, there are many people complaining: why do I have to pay for your tool?

Thats not the point.
Mac is dead for pro users. Most of us will not return to Windows. So there is only Linux. I'm glad that for example Adobe is not making Linux CS, it would destroy the freedom we have on this amazing ecosystem.
There are quite a few great tools out there, which I support with donations. The weird thing on Linux is that most softwares are opensource but they never work together, everyone trying to cook their own soup instead of teaming up together, share their knowledge and sources to create even better softwares.

For the guys who don't know much about coding: Nearly every software out there is build on tools which are opensource and even free available. Without GNU tools, fffmpeg, gstreamer etc. we would not be there where we are! Pay for software, donate for freeware, do not support proprietary giants.
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Re: DaVinci Resolve Lite for Linux request

PostSat Feb 11, 2017 5:12 pm

do not support proprietary giants.


but still the whole thread is a whine because resolve is not free...

the irony....
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Re: DaVinci Resolve Lite for Linux request

PostSun Feb 12, 2017 12:22 pm

waltervolpatto wrote:
do not support proprietary giants.


but still the whole thread is a whine because resolve is not free...

the irony....


No. Because it is not available for Linux Operating System in a similar way as for OSX/Win. Will I get a Linux version of Resolve with one of BMC camera or even standalone 1k$ license ? AFAIK no (correct me if I'm wrong). And that's the point.

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Re: DaVinci Resolve Lite for Linux request

PostSun Feb 12, 2017 4:25 pm

no you don't get it, that is BM professional market, move on.

if you want it the price is 29.995, 1/20th of 10 years ago: a bargain.
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Re: DaVinci Resolve Lite for Linux request

PostSun Feb 12, 2017 5:03 pm

waltervolpatto wrote:no you don't get it, that is BM professional market, move on.
if you want it the price is 29.995, 1/20th of 10 years ago: a bargain.


but do you have a reasonable explanation, why BMD doesn't see any needfulness to make money from all mac and windows users in just the same way as for linux? this operating systems have much more relevant market share, and the revenue would be in all likelihood much more worthwhile...

it's just this very obvious discrepancy and the simple fact, that many ordinary linux users are still forced to switch to windows or mac os, if they want to make any use of resolve at all, that can not be relativized by this kind of presentment.
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Re: DaVinci Resolve Lite for Linux request

PostSun Feb 12, 2017 7:31 pm

waltervolpatto wrote:no you don't get it, that is BM professional market, move on.


I don't need this tool anymore, as I said before. I'm not a colourist.

I'm pointing some kind of disproportion and Linux platform ignorance. Not from BMD, but from people like you (a professionalists who can do their work on any OS, even weak one). You don't care, we do. Please give us possibility to talk about Linux port whenever we want, come on.

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Re: DaVinci Resolve Lite for Linux request

PostSun Feb 12, 2017 9:07 pm

waltervolpatto wrote:no you don't get it, that is BM professional market, move on.

if you want it the price is 29.995, 1/20th of 10 years ago: a bargain.

I think that the current "Linux" version is not what most Linux users want. What BMD is offering right now is a complete and dedicated Resolve SW/HW configuration based on Linux. It's basically an OS image that runs on specific certified hardware and the result is a workstation that is streamlined to run Resolve. It's awesome and perfect for big installations, but there is no proper way for anyone to, let's say, install Resolve for Linux on their laptop (There may be some form of hack. Please correct me if I'm wrong).

If we leave the price tag out of the equation for a moment there is still no way to run Resolve for Linux the same way as we can run Fusion for Linux. That is the kind of Linux product we are talking about.

For many people that are used to working in a Unix based environment, whether it's OSX or Linux, switching to Windows will be painful. I was happy as long as I could run Resolve on the Mac but with current Apple hardware out of the game there is no real choice anymore but to aim for Linux. It will be a challenge for all of us, both as customers and for companies like Blackmagic.

I love Resolve, I really do, there is no other software out there that can compete, but my dislike for Windows is even stronger. As soon as there is anything out there that can do what Resolve can do but as a proper Linux package. I'm gonna have to make the change...
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Re: DaVinci Resolve Lite for Linux request

PostSun Feb 12, 2017 10:35 pm

Daniel Tufvesson wrote:I think that the current "Linux" version is not what most Linux users want. What BMD is offering right now is a complete and dedicated Resolve SW/HW configuration based on Linux. It's basically an OS image that runs on specific certified hardware...


yes -- that's true to some degree, but it isn't as hard to work around this kickstarter specific idiosyncrasies.
there are no specific hardware or kernel modification required, just the usual BMD hardware drivers and a little bit of setup, which can by reproduced on other distros as well.

sure -- a more modern and handy installation procedure would be nice as well, but that's not the crucial point. it's more frustrating, when you bypass all this installation obstacles and finally see a dialog asking for a linux dongle (well -- in fact it explicitly says: you should download the free version! ;))

right now the installation procedure looks very similar to autodesk flame premium -- which in the meanwhile also has abandoned turn key marketing and is now available as pure software on a subscription base. for educational institutions you can even get it for free, and it's still a very powerful and instructive software!

another worth mentioning difference between resolve for linux and the editions for the other operating systems has to be seen the fact, that resolve for linux doesn't work with third party panels. only the quite expensive BMD panel will work.
i think, that's a real show stopper for professional colorists -- people like walter (although he looks more like one of those few talented exceptional cases among professional colorists, who are really able to maintain a linux box themselves, without entirely depending on other specialists of a big facility [please correct me, if i'm wrong]).

Daniel Tufvesson wrote:If we leave the price tag out of the equation for a moment there is still no way to run Resolve for Linux the same way as we can run Fusion for Linux.


yes -- fusion is available in a very user friendly package on linux. but you shouldn't overlook the fact, that there are some other alternatives available for composting tasks on linux (nuke, natron, mamba, flame, blender etc.). sure, fusion also has it's strengths -- and it's very nice, that we now have another attractive alternative --, but frankly, i hardly ever use it. i personally prefer other choices.

you simply can not compare this circumstances in the compositing area to resolve. this particular application would indeed fill a gap!

Daniel Tufvesson wrote:For many people that are used to working in a Unix based environment, whether it's OSX or Linux, switching to Windows will be painful.


exactly! -- it's really painful to be reliant on stupid virtual machines and a unloved operating system, just to utilize resolve.

Daniel Tufvesson wrote:I love Resolve, I really do, there is no other software out there that can compete, but my dislike for Windows is even stronger. As soon as there is anything out there that can do what Resolve can do but as a proper Linux package. I'm gonna have to make the change...


take a look at "nuke studio". it's not the right alternative if you are very focused just on typical colorist work, but in some other respects it's a very interesting software. resolve could learn a lot from it's very flexible/customizable user interface, universal scriptability, fantastic conforming and versioning features, and complex workflow integration capabilities. in all this respects it could be seen as a real alternative to resolve on linux, if not some very unpleasant attributes wouldn't look opposed. but take a look yourself. nuke non-commercial is available to everybody, easy to install even on linux, and definitely worth a test drive!
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Re: DaVinci Resolve Lite for Linux request

PostThu Mar 02, 2017 8:42 pm

I think you guys got your wishes!
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Re: DaVinci Resolve Lite for Linux request

PostThu Mar 02, 2017 9:17 pm

Hey Walter,

I missed part of what he said. Are we going to be able to use our normal Studio dongle to run Resolve on one of the Linux OS's he mentioned?

Thanks,
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Re: DaVinci Resolve Lite for Linux request

PostThu Mar 02, 2017 9:22 pm

Yes
The existing Mac/Windows dongle will now support Linux Studio. Note ProRes encoding on Mac only.

The previous 'Linux' dongle that was only available with the Advanced Panel will continue to support ProRes encoding on Linux.
The previous 'Linux' dongle will also now support Mac & Windows with ProRes encoding on Mac.


There is a no cost and $995 installer version for Linux that you can put on a CentOS/RHEL 7.3 system.

I will post the read me a bit later as there are a few other nice things in this release.
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Re: DaVinci Resolve Lite for Linux request

PostThu Mar 02, 2017 9:34 pm

are you guys offering a free version of the new panel?
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PostThu Mar 02, 2017 9:47 pm

Paul Provost wrote:are you guys offering a free version of the new panel?


It's before 6am here and i've been up for 3+ hours so that's the best line so far today!
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Re: DaVinci Resolve Lite for Linux request

PostThu Mar 02, 2017 10:03 pm

will the new panel (the 3k $) work on Linux?
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PostThu Mar 02, 2017 10:05 pm

hello peter,
does this include compatibility with non blackmagic panel like element on linux?
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PostThu Mar 02, 2017 10:06 pm

waltervolpatto wrote:will the new panel (the 3k $) work on Linux?


Yes of course. And the Micro too.

Both new panels supported on macOS (including Mac App Store), Windows and Linux. Both with the free and studio version.
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Re: DaVinci Resolve Lite for Linux request

PostThu Mar 02, 2017 10:10 pm

Rohit Gupta wrote:
waltervolpatto wrote:will the new panel (the 3k $) work on Linux?


Yes of course. And the Micro too.

Both new panels supported on macOS (including Mac App Store), Windows and Linux. Both with the free and studio version.

where I can order one?

(my wife will definitely kill me if I buy one)
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PostThu Mar 02, 2017 10:13 pm

Erwan Robert-Thomasson wrote:hello peter,
does this include compatibility with non blackmagic panel like element on linux?



Linux only supports BMD Micro, Mini and Advanced Panels
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PostThu Mar 02, 2017 10:18 pm

Peter Chamberlain wrote:
Erwan Robert-Thomasson wrote:hello peter,
does this include compatibility with non blackmagic panel like element on linux?



Linux only supports BMD Micro, Mini and Advanced Panels


gosh, and i was getting over exited...
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PostThu Mar 02, 2017 10:32 pm

Peter Chamberlain wrote:
Paul Provost wrote:are you guys offering a free version of the new panel?


It's before 6am here and i've been up for 3+ hours so that's the best line so far today!

Glad to help, anytime.
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Re: DaVinci Resolve Lite for Linux request

PostFri Mar 03, 2017 4:05 am

Linux install issues moved to here

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=56878
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Re: DaVinci Resolve Lite for Linux request

PostSun Mar 05, 2017 8:07 pm

Dear Blackmagic Design team,

My gratitude to you all for making this reality and releasing DaVinci Resolve 12.5 for Linux in a more accessible form for the masses. Thank you very much!
Hopefully this will bring lots of goods to your company and everyone involved!
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Re: [Solved] DaVinci Resolve Lite for Linux request

PostSat Mar 25, 2017 11:15 pm

Have you been heard ? Am I seeing a Linux version of Resolve in the Download section ?
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PostTue Mar 28, 2017 9:03 pm

Alexandre Garacotche wrote:Have you been heard ? Am I seeing a Linux version of Resolve in the Download section ?



Don't know if it was because of this forum thread. But after some years it looks like we finally are getting it :)

please refer to this forum topic for more details:

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=56878


People are successfully using Resolve 12.5 on various Linux distributions. I personally have it working on Kubuntu 16.04.

Although it comes with some disadvantages, but I guess these will get solved in some time. I would consider it as a beta app. But it works for the most part and works pretty well :)
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