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Richard Crowley

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Hyperdeck drive firmware

PostSat Sep 08, 2012 12:35 am

I just received my new Hyperdeck Studio (along with an ATEM 1M/E) and I am shopping for SSD media for it. I would like to get the Crucial 512 GB M4 drive, but I notice that the compatibility list specifies firmware 009 while the Crucial website appears to be two steps ahead of 0009 (000F replacing 0309).

http://www.crucial.com/support/firmware.aspx

Does the "Firmware 0009" specification in the compatibility list imply that it wants "0009 OR HIGHER" or does it mean "0009 ONLY"? It would be helpful if you could clarify this issue so we can shop for media with some level of confidence.

Bonus question: Is there a matrix that shows approximate recording time for various codecs for the common disk sizes?
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Re: Hyperdeck drive firmware

PostSat Sep 08, 2012 6:06 pm

Recording compressed you should not have an issue. Yes there is a time remaining feature. 256 GB gives me just at 2 hours using FCP Pro Rez
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Re: Hyperdeck drive firmware

PostMon Sep 10, 2012 5:52 pm

@AValive, sorry, that wasn't a very helpful reply. Recording space depends on what framerate and resolution you are recording as well as which codec you are using. I would like to see something that specifies GB/hour for the various framerates/resolutions/codecs. I know the exact time is not predictable because different video content are compressed differently, but some kind of average guideline would be most helpful in estimating how much media you need for various projects/programs.

And my primary question about SSD firmware is still pending.
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Re: Hyperdeck drive firmware

PostMon Sep 10, 2012 7:06 pm

The new firmware is fine. We got 1 user report of a problem, but we tested 3 or 4 that we have in house for extended periods of time and have not seen the same issue reported (again it was only one customer).

So new firmware should be good.

It is worth noting. We use several Seagate GoFlex Thunderbolt adapters for connection to computers. These particular drives (at least using 009 firmware) seem to get bricked if plugged into the GoFlex TB adapter. We haven't tested the newest firmware on the GoFlex TB yet as we didn't want to change bricking them again.

As for the Data Rates, or how many GB/hour. It will depend on the codec and resolution.

But ProRes is around 220Mb/second. or ~27.5MB/second
27.5MB/second *60 = 1650 MB/minute or 1.65GB/minute (using base 10) *60 =99GB/hour

Uncompressed 1080p23.98 10bit = 132.5 MB/second
132.5MB/second *60 = 478GB/hour

So those are two, there are tools online that can show you the data rates for any particular format or codec. I'm not gonna post them all. Of course if there is a specific one, let me know and I'll calculate it up for you.
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Re: Hyperdeck drive firmware

PostMon Sep 10, 2012 7:26 pm

Joshua Helling wrote:But ProRes is around 220Mb/second. or ~27.5MB/second
27.5MB/second *60 = 1650 MB/hour or 1.65GB/hour (using base 10)


I think you made a mistake (missing an additional *60 in the math). I can only get about 5 hours per 512GB drive.
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Re: Hyperdeck drive firmware

PostMon Sep 10, 2012 8:12 pm

Liam Kennedy wrote:
I think you made a mistake (missing an additional *60 in the math). I can only get about 5 hours per 512GB drive.


HAHA...I most certainly did. That's what I get for not properly setting out the old fishbone (dimensional analysis). I've corrected my post. Thanks for catching that.
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Re: Hyperdeck drive firmware

PostMon Sep 10, 2012 9:26 pm

Thank you very much Joshua and Liam!

And thanks for the warning about the GoFlex interface. Is there an interface you recommend (or like to use)? Have you had the same experience with the GoFlex USB3 version of the interface?

And thanks for the details on data rates. The manual (p.12) shows 220 Mb/s for DNxHD, but it doesn't show numbers for the ProRes or Uncompressed modes.

Thanks again for the forum here.
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Re: Hyperdeck drive firmware

PostMon Sep 10, 2012 10:01 pm

The GoFlex TB has only been problematic on that particular drive. No other. That drive has not had problems with any other adapters we've used.
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