Fulgencio Martínez wrote:John Brawley wrote:
The pocket is the same sensor family as the BMCC. This means it has a much shorter development time as a lot of work has already been done.
The 4K is a new sensor so there's more work involved.
It's not like it's unusual for a camera company to be late with their cameras. Panasonic. Panavision. Sony. Red. Arri. They all do it. Plan for it.
JB.
"The pocket is the same sensor family as the BMCC."
Just yesterday morning my seller (Massdigital, an official one) told me the opposite. This says a lot about how much misinformed we are.. a how little info, even official sellers, have.
How can it happen that being the same sensor MFT BMCC are not distributed, but we should think that pocket ones will be for July?
Same sensor family not the same sensor, big difference. The BMCC MFT shipping issue is a complete mess, but the sensor is not the same one its merely from the same sensor family and as such it is possible for the BMPCC to have sensors and the MFT not without having taken any from the MFT line.
And given I once had a retailer try and sell me a £2000 Toshiba telly claiming its was the glasses 3D one that cost over 5 times as much tells you that retailers knowing little is common place even when the info is readily avaliable. (And that piece is fairly readily avavliable.)
Fulgencio Martínez wrote:"The 4K is a new sensor so there's more work involved."
Being a new sensor is the reason why we should see some footage.
Yes it is both the reason it is more importent to see said footage and the reason that footage isnt avalaible. this sucks, but logically it makes sense, a new sensor from a different sensor family will of course require more work than what is in essence a smaller version of an existing sensor.
Fulgencio Martínez wrote:"It's not like it's unusual for a camera company to be late with their cameras. Panasonic. Panavision. Sony. Red. Arri. They all do it. Plan for it."
I got my panasonic 5 days after distribution began. I did not pre-order.. that is a fact.
That doesnt change the fact that many camera companies are late with products, or have supply issues. Just ebacause you once got a panasonic camera 5 days after distribution began without preorder doesnt mean every Panasonic product ever has hit its published deadlines. BMD are very bad at hiotting shipping deadlines, no-one is disputing this, but being late with products is by no means unusual in the idustry and of that list RED are notouriously bad.
Fulgencio Martínez wrote:"Buy this camera if you want it when it is shipping. You don't have to pre-order."
That is another fact.. distribution of MFT was said to start december 2012.
It is Grant Petty and their sellers who encourage people to pre-order.
According to his word.. we do have to pre-order!
Again you arent actually argiuing the point. You don't have to pre-order, but if you do you should get one earlier than if you didn't (note unless they sell direct then very few manufactuers guarentee this as it's largely out of their control). Also I don't recall Grant ever saying we HAD to, encouraging us to and declairing we havbe to are very diffrent things.
Again BMD have not done a good job of managing distribution. No-ones claiming that they have. Hell their distribution issues have pushed me away from their cameras for the time being, I got a RED.