individual clips and audio

Hi all, Happy New Year.

I have to render out a few hundred clips, each needs to keep its original clip name - no probs doing that with deliver individual clips.

however - I also need each clip to have its edited/modified audio - which of course isn't an option using the individual method.

Any ideas of how best to tackle this?

cheers
J

I don't think you can.

No RENDER Page output involving Render Individual Clips with "Timeline Audio"?

#WowJustWOW! Here's hoping you're *wrong* Jim.
[Re]Pete

Maybe I don't understand well.
Why can't you export individual clips after editing? Each clip on the timeline will be routinely exported.

Maybe I don't understand well.
Why can't you export individual clips after editing? Each clip on the timeline will be routinely exported.

You must factor in both aspects of the OP's stated concern/question: that of exporting individual clips -- but along with the associated segment of edited/processed/mixed Timeline [i e., "Record"] Audio.

That's what many of us editors need as an option upon rendering.
[Re]Pete

If you have separately audio and video files, You have to link them.
Then You can use Individual clips export.

If you right click a clip in the clip timeline of the Render tab, you can choose "Render this clip", which should keep any edits and allow you to name it whatever you want.

yes, I can do it clip by clip - which is what I did. all 400 hundred of them, each manually renamed. took flipping hours, then of course the time to find the 2 that didn't render etc etc etc

If you right click a clip in the clip timeline of the Render tab, you can choose "Render this clip", which should keep any edits and allow you to name it whatever you want.

yep, right click etc type in reel name/file name etc etc....that is fine for a few clips only, but 400? that's a hell of a lot of mouse and keyboard work. not to mention the introduced potential for manually naming a wrong key/number. And a seriously slow workflow.

I can't believe we have been asking for render individual clips with timeline audio for a few years now -

I can't recall seeing this requested feature in any other professional editing software.
It's worth keeping in mind that Render Individual Clips is intended ONLY for round-trip workflows.

I can't recall seeing this requested feature in any other professional editing software.
It's worth keeping in mind that Render Individual Clips is intended ONLY for round-trip workflows.

Hi Peter, thanks for your comments.
Yeah I totally get that its designed for round tripping. However, its so close to being a valuable tool for other purposes too.

With that in mind, can you tell me an effective way to currently bring in 400 clips, apply some audio processing then render each clip as individual clips with the edited audio and existing file names?
I spent many hours doing this manually and its something we will have to do from time to time.

One of the things I enjoy with DR is the workflow speed increase with edit/grade/audio etc all in one - but this task was extremely slow, tedious and open to mistakes. and yeah I made a couple of typos once my eyes/brain started to glaze over which then added more time in finding and correcting the mistakes.

And its been talked/asked about a number of times in DR forum..as for other professional editing software - I don't use any other, and I don't frequent their forums so I have no idea what other NLE's do or can do in this respect.

I'd hope that just because others don't do it, it doesn't mean BMD won't look at it as a potential feature upgrade.

thanks

Jeff,

maybe I still do not understand what you need to do? (this is because I do not know English well)

If you need to export each clip in a timeline with a specific name (eg file name / clip name), use the variable values in the Name fields on the Delivery page.

Type " % " to the Filename or Custom name (it doesn't matter) and choose any values from the contextual menu.


I'm sorry if I still do not understand what you're looking for

Jeff,

maybe I still do not understand what you need to do? (this is because I do not know English well)

If you need to export each clip in a timeline with a specific name (eg file name / clip name), use the variable values in the Name fields on the Delivery page.

Type " % " to the Filename or Custom name (it doesn't matter) and choose any values from the contextual menu.


I'm sorry if I still do not understand what you're looking for

Thanks Vit

ah...I missed the % - that would have made it easier, thanks for that. - still, I don't feel this should be needed as a simple "render TL audio" will still save a lot of time rather then manually queuing up 400 clips

Hi Jeff,

I work with Avid, FCPX, FCP7, Premiere & Resolve. None of those programs will do what you are asking. I have never seen ANY software capable of this. However, I agree it would be a useful option. There would have to be some serious audio options for routing tracks when the track count gets too high!

an effective way to currently bring in 400 clips, apply some audio processing then render each clip as individual clips with the edited audio and existing file names?

That's an unusual work flow. Most times audio isn't 'processed' until after editing. That may be why the feature you want doesn't yet exist.

You could try using something like Adobe Audition or possibly Audacity to work on the individual clips.

The workaround for this that I have found is to make each clip a compound clip that includes the correct audio. Still tedious but a little better than exporting each clip manually.

I get this problem too.

Client for a media training session wants 1 video file per attendee.
I have hundreds of clips.
Edited the audio for each one.

But when I export individual clips, the sound tweakings are not embedded in audio... So why does Resolve has the option to export audio on individual clips ? It doesn't make sense.

And if I make a compound clip out of every video/sound clips, the render just crashes all the time.

So I'm basically stuck. Or I have to put each and every clip on a new timeline and export one by one. What a waste of time.

Running DVR 16.1.2
On Mac Os Mojave 10.14.6

I have to put each and every clip on a new timeline and export one by one.

You can put them all in the same timeline, but you do have to set up each individual export with In/Out points.

But when I export individual clips, the sound tweakings are not embedded in audio... So why does Resolve has the option to export audio on individual clips ? It doesn't make sense.

RTFM

Individual clips is designed specifically for round-trip workflows from other editing software. It is NOT designed for delivery of timelines or parts of timelines.

So I use Resolve to make synced and graded proxies, whether I am doing it for my own editing or if I am DIT on set and delivering to an editor or post house.
I find that it is the simplest, most precise program in which to do so, even manually syncing if necessary once the mechanisms are understood (as opposed to using jammed timecode).
I use the "Render Individual clips" mode, with the number of audio tracks set to "Same as Source".
The timecode stays the same upon export so that the post audio crew can easily relink the raw audio clips when the time comes.

However, I have begun to realize that it does have a few rather major limitations.
Namely, that 1) there is absolutely no way to alter an audio file once you link it to a video clip and 2) that you can only associate one video clip to one audio clip.

Here are few examples where those facts are indeed drawbacks:
1. Sometimes there are more than one audio source and they both need to be attached to each proxy, in order to give the editors (or myself) all possible options. So...adding extra tracks to sync beyond the main linked audio clip. Resolve does not allow this. :'(
(Or...conversely, there might be some unnecessary tracks that you wanted to delete in order to simplify things.)

2. Occasionally, especially on run-and-gun/verite/reality shoots, audio will cut at separate times from the camera crew. This is not ideal...but it happens and I am given what I am given from set without any way to alter that. So, often one video clip will sync to a first audio clip that cuts and then that same video clip will sync with the next sequential audio clip moments later.

Now, while tedious, both of these situations can be remedied in the timeline in the 'Edit' tab.
You can manually sync a second source or a second sequential clip from the same source to a single video clip.
HOWEVER...exporting using "Render Individual clips" completely ignores any of this work, defaulting instead to the original linked clip from the 'Media' tab ONLY...even if you had "Link[ed] Clips" in the 'Edit' tab.

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY???

I've thought that I could get around this by perhaps manually exporting each individual clip I might have to do any of this to, using the "Render Single clip" and specifying exactly how many tracks of audio there were supposed to be and by typing in the exact name myself.
HOWEVER...then the clips lose the original timecode, instead defaulting to the timeline audio!

It really seems like such a small jump to make these things possible.
WHY, oh WHY doesn't it work this way??

Does anyone have any suggestions of workarounds for these situations I stated above?
Thank you for any feedback!

Does anyone have any suggestions of workarounds for these situations I stated above?
Thank you for any feedback!

Just thought I would bump this to see if I could catch some genius' attention...someone who might have an answer to this perplexing technical quandary.

I have a similar issue.

I'm not well-versed in Da Vinci, but I know people use it to sync picture and audio/transcode footage that is later used to be edited in Premiere or Avid.

I am trying to use Da Vinci for this purpose. I want to sync picture and audio and export individual clips that have the new audio synced with picture.

What I've done:

I made 6 timelines, labeled by the day we shot. I dragged the audio and video from those days, and synced based on Waveform with append tracks (this was so I could make sure the correct audio synced with it's intended clip. NOTE: I did not have timecode, unfortunately). I manually checked each clip to make sure the clips synced correctly. The clips that did not sync correctly (about 35% of them), I deleted and synced manually in Premiere Pro much later.

I deleted the camera audio, so I was left with just video with it's corresponding audio. I then exported each timeline individually, with INDIVIDUAL CLIPS selected in the deliver tab. I get a bunch of proxies in a new folder I created.

What happened:

I get into Premiere, organize my project, and get to work. Unfortunately, after editing a couple scenes (none of them had dialogue so it was hard to tell, and this is my FIRST TIME DOING THIS in Da Vinci), I realized that NONE of the clips that were synced in Da Vinci synced with the audio. It just kept the camera audio, even though I deleted it from the Da Vinci timeline after I made sure it was synced with the correct clip.

We shot on a Black Magic URSA Mini and the audio was strictly boom audio (though recorded in some Stereo format I think)

I've spent weeks on this trying to avoid any mistakes, because I know one mistake can set me back a long time when it comes to delivering clips. I've never done this before. I'm just trying to make proxies to edit in premiere with the new audio synced. I know it's possible, because I've had files delivered to me in the past like this.

Does anyone have a solution or know anything about this? You would be really saving me right now.

Hi all, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Firstly, I see many people ask "why would you want to do this" when there is a request for perfecting the rendering of multiple clips from a single clip.

One user had 400 clips s/he wanted to export, but had to manually go through all of them.

Let me start by explaining why I want to do it and what my thoughts are: I have a long clip. It's a single cut, of about 50 individual speakers.

In order for me to send that clip to each of the speakers (which is something often done at conferences), I would like to place them all on the timeline, add markers for the start and end of each speaker segment (removing "dead space between speakers") and then to cut the clip up into its parts. Then I'd like to render individual clips (with whatever filenames) either automatically (name each cut) or rename them later.

I see a lot of people saying "nothing I've ever worked with does this." Well - perhaps this would give DVR a "leg-up" on the competitors.

The idea that you'd have to sit and mark and cut individual clips, select the in-and-out points for each, set up the render, add it to the render queue and repeat anything from 20 to 400 times - is an absolute waste of what software and computers are designed to do: To remove the pain of repetitive work.

SURELY this is something that would greatly enhance workflow and speed up rendering time (saving money for commercial operations) - not so?

In my mind (I have some experience with software development), this feature is discussed repeatedly enough to warrant the "development time" to add this as a natural feature. In my mind (also), the tool is self-explanatory (individual clips), and the timeline is a single "thing," so why would you go through the hassle of creating a "clip" with audio and effects in tow if you're going to export only video (layers and effects). THAT, to me, seems more counter-intuitive than just exploring it all.

I can't imagine too many people complaining that they are working on projects and having trouble exporting WITHOUT Sound, since you can simply unlink and remove sound before render, anyway.

Does this help clarify the request, the need and logic behind including it, as a feature?

An interesting post. I agree with the comments made that the audio if edited within an individual clip was processed in individual clips this would be a good option.

The use cases I have are:

1) channel mapping audio
2) basic level correction / normalisation
3) possible other factors like using a de-reverb filter

Basically cleaning things up for exporting files for other editors using other NLE's. This is alongside using DR to transcode VFR (Iphone) footage to CFR.