Painless install on Linux Centos 7

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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostTue Jul 28, 2020 9:04 am

Dwaine,

Thanks for all the tips and help; all is working fine now.

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Main Resolve: Linux Centos 7, Intel i7 16GB RAM, nVidia 1070Ti, Decklink Extreme 12G
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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostMon Aug 03, 2020 5:39 pm

Wow. Although I have often expressed the desire to migrate away from Windows platform and get onboard with a Linux based installation of Resolve, let me be candid: Be er having tried a Linux OS installation, ever -- and despite past experience with Amiga computers decades ago, I feel quite intimidated after reading posts on related to "Painless Install" (sic) on Linux CentOS.

After 3 years hanging with Resolve, I get the sense that despite the fact it is the year 2020, Resolve is still tightly designed for an aged Linux variant, and thereby creates a daunting prospect for Newbies, desiring to set up a Resolve computer system, even on CentOS.

Anybody got any encouraging suggestions for where to start?
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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostTue Aug 04, 2020 9:22 am

Peter,

Despite my recent pain I am going to still stick with Resolve on Linux, with five vital lessons I have learned. If you are a newbie (like me) my advice is:
1) use the bundled Centos + Resolve ISO from BMD [which also has the Nvidia drivers]
2) never update Centos nor the many parts to it
3) never update the nvidia drivers (or think very carefully/know what you are doing beforehand)
4) do frequent [at least daily] backups of the Resolve diskdb database
5) do backups of the Downloads, Desktop and any other folder you have added stuff into.

Of course you will have an old version of Centos: but for me this doesn't matter - the machine is dedicated to video editing, and even the network connection is usually off so 'old' doesn't matter.
It all works reliably, is fast etc. why does it matter that the version of Centos is old?

Sure, add things like FFPMEG and other software but don't update or mess with Centos in any way [apart from Grub to do a dual boot option with Windows if you need that **], nor with the nvidia drivers [unless you are having issues].

So, my experience is that if you use 1) it is painless. BUT BUT if you do 2) or 3) and you are a newbie then the installation breaks and you have to re-install.
HOWEVER, if you have done 4) and 5) then it can all be recovered quite quickly - fortunately I had done this so it was no problem re-installing from scratch and getting everything functioning correctly again.

** if you want to know how to do a dual boot Centos/Windows look at:
https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/dua ... tos-7.html
This goes step by step Windows then Centos install. If you look 3/4 way down the page 'Fix GRUB2' it tells you how to make the system dual boot - all straightforward.


Hope this helps

Tom
Main Resolve: Linux Centos 7, Intel i7 16GB RAM, nVidia 1070Ti, Decklink Extreme 12G
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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostFri Aug 21, 2020 6:33 pm

I installed Resolve with on a Linux machine with Radeon VII and Ubuntu 20.04. Why not Cent OS? Because it missed some crucial drivers. Actually I ask myself if flatpak would work for Davinci Resolve. Except for the kernel everything is fixed. All the environment would be controlled by Blackmagic, so I think it could work.
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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostWed Aug 26, 2020 3:44 pm

A flatpak version of davinci resolve would be great
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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostFri Sep 18, 2020 1:59 pm

Hi,

Could someone from BMD pls provide the link to download the latest bundled Centos + Resolve ISO from BMD?
(I have tried searching on the BMD site but can't find it - the Resolve downloads are easy to find but not the Centos+Resolve ISO)

Thanks

Tom
Main Resolve: Linux Centos 7, Intel i7 16GB RAM, nVidia 1070Ti, Decklink Extreme 12G
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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostFri Sep 18, 2020 8:54 pm

The link to the ISO is always in the Linux_Installation_Instructions PDF that is part of the Resolve Linux release download.

This is the most current version:

https://downloads.blackmagicdesign.com/ ... OS_7.3.iso

Note that this can only be installed from a DVD and that the computer can not have any onboard graphics enabled.

If you want something newer than CentOS 7.3, and more installation flexibility, I highly recommend Seth Goldin's CentOS/Resolve build process. He currently has a process for CentOS 7.8 and 8.2:

https://github.com/sethgoldin/install-d ... lve-centos
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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostFri Sep 18, 2020 10:26 pm

Dwaine,

Thanks for the quick answer, much appreciated!

Regards,

Tom
Main Resolve: Linux Centos 7, Intel i7 16GB RAM, nVidia 1070Ti, Decklink Extreme 12G
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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostTue Oct 13, 2020 7:17 pm

I have a MOTU M2 soundcard and know that newer Linux kernels support it. Since CentOS tends to run older kernels "for security and stability" it would appear that those of us with newish hardware are SOL. My NVIDEA graphics card is also on the newer side, RTX 2070, mini. Would CentOS function on my machine?
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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostTue Oct 13, 2020 7:51 pm

No problem using an RTX2070 in Linux (including CentOS), long as you have an adequate driver.

In Resolve 16.2.7, we now use CUDA 11. This requires a 450.66 or higher NVIDA driver on Linux.

Resolve on CentOS Linux can send sound out through various sound devices using ALSA.

I can't say how outputting sound through a sound device might work on distro's other than RHEL/CentOS.

Resolve on Linux currently does not support getting sound into Resolve from such a device.
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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostSat Oct 17, 2020 1:17 pm

I have been rereading this long strand since my 'new' linux build has taken a back seat for a year! The Resolve software has much progressed but I see from my download today that it is still based upon CentOS 7.3 for the BMD ISO.
Does this mean that I still cannot (with that ISO) mix internal Intel graphics with an Nvidia GPU for processing?
If that is true, can somebody please suggest the best OS to use to get that capability? The machine is dedicated to Resolve and I am happy to then lock it out from any updates beyond Resolve itself and any dependencies. I have the Studio version, with a Mac dongle.
I am much attracted to Seth's install routine.
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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostSat Oct 17, 2020 5:05 pm

Intel graphics is not supported in Linux by Resolve.

You never want to mix GPU types in Resolve anyway, so this should not be a concern, if you have an NVIDIA GPU.

It should only concern Linux folks that only have Intel graphics. And in that case, Resolve is not going to work.
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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostSun Oct 18, 2020 3:43 pm

I am an engineer with an annoying habit of wanting to know 'why?'! I also enjoy constructing machines in a penny pinching manner that makes use of stuff that others don't want. One idea that surfaced was to use Nvidia ex bitcoin mining processors. They can be had for little money compared to gaming GPUs and even more so compared to the proper 'maths' processors that 'they' would like us to buy. The cheapest ones are 'headless' (no video out) but I thought no problem - just use the built-in Intel video for the GUI. So it turns out this is (officially from BMD) a non starter. So what I want to know is:
1) Is it simply that BMD have written out this possibility in their Resolve code? or
2) Is it that their version of CentOS 7.3 does not include the requisite drivers? and thus
3) Can this possibility be had by using another linux version?
As I understand it there are all manner of issues (like Open CL/GL) precluding using Intel GPUs for processing but surely this doesn't apply to use purely as a screen driver?

As an aside - my Resolve use was motoring along nicely on my old MacPro desktop until Apple decided it didn't like Nvidia so much (or vice versa) that I couldn't update past High Sierra with my GTX980. This was no great shakes (to me) until BMD decreed that I HAD to update the OS if I wanted to use the latest Resolve, so I had to replace the Nvidia GPU with an AMD unit. This prompted the interest in building a linux system.
I thus will probably use the redundant GTX980 in my linux build so that the 'official' BMD system is at least now possible. Nevertheless - my engineering curiosity begs me to ask the above questions.
I beg your indulgence.
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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostMon Nov 02, 2020 1:38 pm

I ended up finding out the hard way!
I got a working system on Mint that used both the GTX-980 and the iGPU. If I then tried to open Resolve I got a blank 'boot' window so I guess they do indeed code to test for this before opening.
Started again with the BMD ISO for CentOS and all good.
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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostTue Nov 10, 2020 9:09 am

Anyone having success with Resolve 17 beta on Centos? For me it seems to crash any time I do something media related, which means either opening existing project or navigating to media page in new project...
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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostTue Nov 10, 2020 9:26 am

Hendrik

Can I check which CentOS you're using and if you used the official .run installer?
Can I also bother you to check these possible dependency issue from my previous answer:
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=125064#p684658

Logs and some additional context (e.g. if it happens on any clip, specific clips) would help too.

Thanks
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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostSat Nov 14, 2020 7:07 am

Getting same problems with crashes on Arch/Manjaro linux. Opening projects almost crash instantly. Though I'm also having problems starting Resolve, which seems to be an issue with latest version 16 as well. No GPU detection. Using the latest linux59 kernel and nvidia 455 drivers.

Just wondering if I could be missing certain dependencies? (link above is broken).

I'm installing version 16 from the Arch User Repository which is compiled with all the dependencies. Then I install 17 with the official installer.
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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostSat Nov 14, 2020 5:40 pm

Please keep this thread to CentOS 7. There’s another thread for all other distros.


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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostMon Nov 16, 2020 1:44 am

Hello,

Two subjects in this post:

1. Centos 7.7=> 7.8 install on AMD Threadripper 3970x and Nvidia RTX 3090.

2. Benchmark on the same hardware Windows 10 / Centos 7.8 (updated from 7.7 install)

1. I followed the build process from Seth up to the Nvidia install. The setup proposed wouldn't work. Instead, I downloaded the last long life drivers from Nvidia and setup the driver manually. I didn't have to uninstall nouveau as the graphic card wasn't recognized as Nvidia...
It works fine Basically the only trouble is because of the size of the RTX 3090 which prevent from installing a GUI card as it takes 3 slots and the motherboard host 4 slots 2 at 16x.

I just bought a second RTX 3090 and will try to set up either just the two graphic cards or using an expander.

2. Based on the same project / files / disks, I have a 19% render time gain from Windows 10 to Centos 7.8.

I love Linux!!

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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostMon Nov 16, 2020 6:52 am

Dwaine Maggart wrote:The link to the ISO is always in the Linux_Installation_Instructions PDF that is part of the Resolve Linux release download.

This is the most current version:

https://downloads.blackmagicdesign.com/ ... OS_7.3.iso

Note that this can only be installed from a DVD and that the computer can not have any onboard graphics enabled.

If you want something newer than CentOS 7.3, and more installation flexibility, I highly recommend Seth Goldin's CentOS/Resolve build process. He currently has a process for CentOS 7.8 and 8.2:

https://github.com/sethgoldin/install-d ... lve-centos

If I don't have a DVD player how can I install CentOS 7.3 with Davinci and needed drivers bundled reasonably pain free? Also is there a step by step tutorial, video or link that can help me through 5he installation process?
Thank you!
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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostMon Nov 16, 2020 11:22 pm

ksilva wrote:If I don't have a DVD player how can I install CentOS 7.3 with Davinci and needed drivers bundled reasonably pain free? Also is there a step by step tutorial, video or link that can help me through 5he installation process?
Thank you!

Linux ISO files can be written to an USB drive and you can boot off of that. But be aware that it isn't a standard copy with a file manager. On linux I use a tool called dd to get the job done. Windows admins keep telling me there is a windows tool that will get the job done but it has never worked for me, but then again me and windows hate each other. Do a search and find out how to copy a ISO to a thumb drive and give it a go.
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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostTue Nov 17, 2020 3:07 am

Our current CentOS 7.3 / Resolve 16.0 build image will ONLY install from a DVD. Copying it to a USB stick does not work. Not sure how much clearer I can be on that.

Standard solution is to use an external USB DVD drive if you don't have an internal DVD drive.

If you don't want to do that, use Seth Goldin's install process. He has one for CentOS 7.8 and 8.2. I'd recommend using the 7.8 process:

https://github.com/sethgoldin/install-d ... lve-centos

This has step by step guidance.
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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostTue Nov 17, 2020 5:16 am

Dwaine Maggart wrote:Our current CentOS 7.3 / Resolve 16.0 build image will ONLY install from a DVD. Copying it to a USB stick does not work. Not sure how much clearer I can be on that.

Standard solution is to use an external USB DVD drive if you don't have an internal DVD drive.

If you don't want to so that, use Seth Goldin's install process. He has one for CentOS 7.8 and 8.2. I'd recommend using the 7.8 process:

https://github.com/sethgoldin/install-d ... lve-centos

This has step by step guidance.


Thank you so much. I'll give the Seth Goldin's install process a try.
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Re: Painless install on Linux Centos 7

PostThu Nov 19, 2020 6:42 pm

Shrinivas Ramani wrote:Hendrik

Can I check which CentOS you're using and if you used the official .run installer?
Can I also bother you to check these possible dependency issue from my previous answer:
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=125064#p684658

Logs and some additional context (e.g. if it happens on any clip, specific clips) would help too.

Thanks
Shrinivas

Hi, sorry for the delay, didn't have time to investigate it before. I updated nvidia drivers to newest 455.45.01 version, installed 17b02 and it seems to work without problems now.
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