Open in color page command

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Open in color page command

PostSat Nov 07, 2020 2:41 am

When you open the color page, the top most clip under the playhead is selected.

Most of the time I want to grade the selected clip on edit page and not the top most clip under the playhead.

I think I am not the only one, I have seen this issue mentioned many times on this forum

here some example topics:
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=124776
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=75031
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=81982
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=94192

I think an "Open in color page" command, simillar to the "Open in fusion page" would be a nice addition for those who dont like this behaviour.
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Re: Open in color page command

PostSat Nov 07, 2020 5:39 am

+1 I understand why it picks the top clip but that's definitely annoying. They could also add a setting to change it's behavior to go to the selected clip instead of the top-most clip.
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Re: Open in color page command

PostSat Nov 07, 2020 1:24 pm

It does make using whole track adjustment layers frustrating as well, I think an "ignore on color page" option for individual clips or maybe tracks would be really helpful.
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Re: Open in color page command

PostSat Nov 07, 2020 3:16 pm

AndrewKeil wrote:It does make using whole track adjustment layers frustrating as well, I think an "ignore on color page" option for individual clips or maybe tracks would be really helpful.


The Color page allows you to filter out a track using its timeline.
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Re: Open in color page command

PostSat Nov 07, 2020 5:04 pm

The normal work flow is do to all your editing and effects first, then color all the clips later.
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Re: Open in color page command

PostSat Nov 07, 2020 6:29 pm

Jim Simon wrote:The normal work flow is do to all your editing and effects first, then color all the clips later.

That's not actually realistic for every project though. The Color page supports things like keying, creating alphas, and noise reduction and can apply all the same effects the Edit page can. There's a tons of reasons why you might need to use the Color page before you're done editing.

Like what if you needed to create mask for a clip, then blur the footage and the mask, then keyframe it from the timeline? I mean technically you can't do that in Resolve anyway since all the effects and transforms on the Edit page occur before the Color page when they should really happen afterwards but my point still stands that not everything fits within Resolve's prescribed workflow.
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Re: Open in color page command

PostSun Nov 08, 2020 2:19 pm

+1
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Re: Open in color page command

PostSat Dec 12, 2020 10:32 pm

+1. Especially with the keying now done in the Color page.

Case in point: selected clip, switched to color page. The "highlighted" clip is not the clip I was looking for... and look at the row of clips! (there are two dozen more off to the right). Who knows which one is the one I had selected? The clips with masks are showing completely (or mostly) black, even when thumbnails are refreshed... because the first frame is when the actor is off screen and they enter later. Trying to find the desired clip is an unncessary pain.

"Open in Color" on a popup / hotkey from the Edit page seems quite reasonable.
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Re: Open in color page command

PostSat Oct 16, 2021 9:42 am

+1 for simply maintaining the active selection/target when switching pages

Clip/action targeting per the 'Auto Track Selector' is fine for when there is no user specified target/selection present... but if and when a user has explicitly targeted/selected a clip then that target should take precedence.
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Re: Open in color page command

PostMon Dec 27, 2021 10:25 pm

I guess I didn't search enough lol, so +1

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Re: Open in color page command

PostWed May 04, 2022 9:40 pm

I'll up this one again
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Re: Open in color page command

PostThu May 05, 2022 3:58 pm

Add my vote as well.
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Re: Open in color page command

PostFri Jun 09, 2023 4:33 am

±1,000,000!!! It's been 3 YEARS now since this feature has been requested. Don't be like Adobe, listen to your people!
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Re: Open in color page command

PostThu Jun 29, 2023 2:09 pm

It'd be so good if I could select a clip in the Edit page, then switch to the Color page and still have that same clip selected. It's the biggest frustration I have working with Resolve.
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Re: Open in color page command

PostSat Jul 01, 2023 9:54 pm

+1

They could also add a setting to change it's behavior to go to the selected clip instead of the top-most clip.


I think this would be the most practical implementation.
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Re: Open in color page command

PostSun Jul 02, 2023 3:26 am

+1
Just like open in fusion page.
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Re: Open in color page command

PostSun Jul 02, 2023 5:55 am

+1
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Re: Open in color page command

PostSun Jul 02, 2023 8:53 am

The playhead position selects the frame to view.

Imagine one clip on top of the other in the timeline. The top clip logically obscures the clip below unless it has some composite mode or key.

If u select the bottom clip in the edit page, and that was used for the selection in the color page you would be adjusting a clip you can’t see as it’s obscured by the clip above.

That’s one example why changing this isn’t trivial.
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Re: Open in color page command

PostSun Jul 02, 2023 10:27 am

Peter Chamberlain wrote:That’s one example why changing this isn’t trivial.
What is being asked for here doesn't change anything at all for those preferring to stick to existing workflows. If there's no explicit user selection (clip-targeting) and/or explicit action (Open in Color) then your default targeting would apply just as it always has. What's being requested here, and has been requested clearly and repeatedly, is functionality that caters for those wishing to leverage the alternative and arguably faster and more intuitive workflows that the modern incarnation of Resolve could allow.
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Re: Open in color page command

PostSun Jul 02, 2023 8:53 pm

What Andy said...

I'm constantly going back and forth between the color page and the edit page (or fusion, fairlight), and I constantly have clip adjustments selected, and I lose the position coooooooooonstantly when I need to select the clip to edit.
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Re: Open in color page command

PostMon Jul 31, 2023 6:02 pm

I do this in a weird way so I don't have to "hunt" for clips in the Color Page.

First I go to the menu Davinc Resolve > Keyborad customization.
I associate a shortcut to the Open in Fusion command (in my case, Ctrl+Alt+a).

I select the clip on the Edit Page. Then I use the shortcuts in sequence: Ctrl+Alt+a and then Shift+F6.

The shortcut Ctrl+Alt+a will take you to the Fusion Page with the clip selected and the shortcut Shift+6 will take you to the color page with the fusion clip.

Kind of weird, but that's what I've been doing.

Are we missing something we don't realize? Something so simple should have been in software (great piece of software, by the way) a long time ago.
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Re: Open in color page command

PostWed Aug 02, 2023 5:01 am

+1 on this & what Andy said!


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Re: Open in color page command

PostThu Aug 03, 2023 12:21 am

Peter Chamberlain wrote:The playhead position selects the frame to view.

Imagine one clip on top of the other in the timeline. The top clip logically obscures the clip below unless it has some composite mode or key.

If u select the bottom clip in the edit page, and that was used for the selection in the color page you would be adjusting a clip you can’t see as it’s obscured by the clip above.

That’s one example why changing this isn’t trivial.


Could there be an option for changing it from the current behaviour (the default) to keeping the same clip highlighted when changing tabs? This would keep current users happy but allow more flexibility.

I often put an Adjustment Clip across the whole timeline that has a global look in it. I do this so I can have titles on top that aren't put through that adjustment (as they would be if I had that adjustment in the Timeline part of the node graph).

In terms of workflow, the fact that Resolve provides an integrated environment where you can jump back and forth through the pages as much as you like is great. My projects are much more visual than most, so I make editing decisions based on how good a clip looks in the colour page, and I make grading decisions based on the editing context of the clip, so it's an interactive thing.
I do not come from an industry background, so am one of the new generation of users who don't work in the same way as industry does and don't want to be restricted to the tradeoffs that industry has made. Resolve is already a very complicated piece of software, so my preference would be when there are different workflows that Resolve provides an option to choose the behaviour that works for you. I would imagine that we're not too far away from Resolve having an AI assistant that can help you understand it, so additional complexity or options isn't too much of an additional burden at this point, especially if you keep the current behaviour as the default.
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Re: Open in color page command

PostFri Aug 11, 2023 8:13 am

Choi Young Do wrote:±1,000,000!!! It's been 3 YEARS now since this feature has been requested. Don't be like Adobe, listen to your people!

Absolutely agree! User feedback is crucial for progress. Let's prioritize features that matter. Avoid the Adobe trap. Our users' voices matter most.
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Re: Open in color page command

PostWed Sep 27, 2023 2:34 pm

Just bumping this one.
I can't imagine if "open in Fusion" didn't exist, how frustrating it would be
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Re: Open in color page command

PostWed Feb 07, 2024 4:59 pm

+1

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