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Corey Wipper wrote: When I switch the Keyboard Mapping to Premiere in the settings, very few of them are correct. I've even tried doing them all custom, but I still run into problems getting things to work properly.
[b] Is this happening for everyone, and if so, does anyone have a keyboard shortcut file they could export to me that they created using Premiere's shortcuts? .
Hector Berrebi wrote:Corey Wipper wrote: When I switch the Keyboard Mapping to Premiere in the settings, very few of them are correct. I've even tried doing them all custom, but I still run into problems getting things to work properly.
[b] Is this happening for everyone, and if so, does anyone have a keyboard shortcut file they could export to me that they created using Premiere's shortcuts? .
Hey Corey
I've trained several teams of editors (TV channels, post facilities and other) switching from one system to another over the years, and countless individuals (Avid to FCP7, FCP7 to PP, Avid to PP and lately, everything to Resolve)
Other systems also offer presets for switchers, and always some shortcuts transition well while others don't, as no 2 systems are exactly alike. Part of switching is in switching your keyboard shortcut mindset. And part of discovering a software is discovering its shortcuts.
My recommendation to you is to learn a tool with its native shortcuts, then slowly customize them as you go, rather than start by remapping everything to what you were used to before...
Eventually everything balances out.
Corey Wipper wrote:Thanks Hector! That's actually what I've been doing. Just out of curiousity, what's your opinion on the editing portion of Davinci in comparison to premiere or final cut? I'm running away from Premiere because of all its unsolvable bugs on my computer, and I'm a little worried the grass might not be greener on the other side. I have yet to get some more time in it in order to make that assessment. Seems good so far.
Hector Berrebi wrote:Corey Wipper wrote:Thanks Hector! That's actually what I've been doing. Just out of curiousity, what's your opinion on the editing portion of Davinci in comparison to premiere or final cut? I'm running away from Premiere because of all its unsolvable bugs on my computer, and I'm a little worried the grass might not be greener on the other side. I have yet to get some more time in it in order to make that assessment. Seems good so far.
You're welcome
In regards to your question about Resolve's editing tools and how they compare to FCPX or PP (funny you didn't mention Avid...)
The short answer would be My opinion is super positive and that they compare fairly well with both.
Bit longer one is I can't think of that many essential editing features in PP that aren't in Resolve. The main one and most prominent would be the lack of a dedicated Trim setup/window/tool (A/B sides, frame counter etc').
This can be worked around but is definitely missing if heavy duty trim sessions are planned. PP's trim tool has evolved nicely, Avid's of course is near perfect.
Another point has to do with the overall stability of a system that has undergone huge changes, like Resolve did in past few years. You can sometime feel it when doing extensive timeline work (glitches, sub-frame gaps, actions that kill-crash the app etc'). But BMD is doing a great job at tracking and eliminating these and every update fixes more of them.
On the other hand, since Resolve is a veteran Online tool, it deals nicely with large timelines and is a quite full, very accurate and fairly stable video tool.
No NLE is always bug-free. I'm not sure which bugs are chasing you away from PP... But to be fair, Premiere as an editing tool has become quite impressive in my opinion. I can't think of many crucial editing related bugs it currently suffers from (better media manger/transcoding features are just borderline editing).
From my POV... PP's biggest editing bug is still the average PP users and the click-drag-move technique they mainly implement, instead of adopting deeper, more advance and complex editing techniques which the system today is capable of (and has been for a while. Adobe put a lot of effort into it)
I keep getting "Wows" in Sessions where I teach experienced PP editors advance timeline techniques and advance trim editing. So many of them react like they weren't aware of the existence of a deeper layer of editing, and of the revolution trim tools made in film/content creation history. This hardly happens with Avid editors for example, probably one of the reasons why still, so many things that matter are cut on good-ol' Avid. It is changing... and I believe won't be the case forever.
I like how Resolve adopted many things from RIP FCP7 (some extremely subtle I truly enjoyed discovering). It was a good NLE, and there are times where Resolve (as an NLE) feels like the FCP8 (or FCP9 if 12 was 8) we never got from Apple.
The reason I didn't mention FCPX is that its hard to compare it to anything but itself. The way its built and its relation to OSX makes it a very capable and unique editing tool, great for many projects. However, Apple's choice to steer away from the traditional construct of an NLE and from the way editors, on ANY system think and work, still makes me feel that same slightly bitter taste I felt at the 2011 NAB Supermeet where it was revealed.
I think all NLE's should adopt Resolve's timeline volume/dim feature.
Jim Simon wrote:The Premiere Pro shortcuts in Resolve are incredibly inaccurate. Might as well just ignore them and set up your own to mimic Premiere Pro.
On the issue of learning the new ones, I find PP shortcuts are much more sensible and are generally easier to use than the native Resolve shortcuts, so creating that custom set is worth the time.
Hector Berrebi wrote:
My recommendation to you is to learn a tool with its native shortcuts, then slowly customize them as you go, rather than start by remapping everything to what you were used to before...
Eventually everything balances out.
PeterMoretti wrote:It's on thing to learn new shortcuts for a program, it's another to have to learn new ones for each page and consciously forget ones that are not available on certain pages.
It follows the mapping of Final Cut Pro (Classic/Legacy)... so clearly not really a 'major issue'. Apple was very successful attracting users to FCP over many years. Was never an issue toggling that Keyboard Preferences setting.gramsay wrote:first major issue is that on a mac, Resolve maps the basic editing commands to the F9, F11, and F12 keys. On a mac keyboard this is mapped to your volume controls so this is a huge issue. Yes you can fix that in your macs keyboard settings but its really bad mapping to put those basic editing functions on those keys.
No disagreement there. The Keyboard Customization UI could definitely be better.gramsay wrote:Second the resolve keyboard commands are difficult to find. You can see the difference in the preference settings for both programs. Premiere is far more user friendly in terms of finding the command you need. With resolve its a lot of searching, and then using the internet
Obviously, in some regards, the functions don't necessarily map one to one, so its never going to be a flawless experience for users making the switch... but yeah, a little bit more effort couldn't have hurt, it's a very bare mapping by default. As for your '.kys' file, that won't help you. The Resolve Premiere Pro keyboard layout is based on the default Premiere keyset, it doesn't read & translate personal keyset mapping files.gramsay wrote:Third is even when switching the keyboard preferences to a Premiere keyboard. Nothing happens. Maybe i need to install my .kys file somewhere in a resolve directory? I like resolve a lot. But this is its biggest flaw.
In the long term, if you stick with Resolve, I don't doubt that they'd like you to buy their keyboard and other hardware, but that's not what's happening here. Buying the Resolve keyboard won't magically make your Premiere mapping work... and if you need/want a colour-coded keyboard showing Resolve's own default keyboard mapping, to help you transition to & learn those shortcuts, then there are plenty of very much cheaper options that are widely available ... one option, check out a company called 'Editors Keys'.gramsay wrote:I'm guessing Blackmagic wants you to buy a specialized keyboard so its not a priority for them in their development
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