Zhiyun CRANE 3S really stabilize UMPG2 or is just marketing?

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Zhiyun CRANE 3S really stabilize UMPG2 or is just marketing?

PostThu Mar 26, 2020 12:30 pm

I saw few videos with Zhiyun CRANE 3S and UMP but the steady-cam man couldn't see what him shooting because UMP has closed LCD screen and i dont't see another video assist solution. So its Zhiyun CRANE 3S a real solution to stabilize UMP G2 or just marketing?
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PostThu Mar 26, 2020 1:48 pm

I thought the same thing myself. After adding 1 or 2 attachments to your camera on the gimbal would it exceed the weight limit? There should be a place to mount your external monitor to the gimbal hopefully. For the UMP I use a wireless video system. It remains to be seen how the ump on this gimbal would be set up for real world shooting.
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PostThu Mar 26, 2020 2:10 pm

Those two together will run around 11lbs, not including a lens or accessories. Without a vest and arm, it's hard to see how anyone will be able to operate it. Just carrying the thing, with no thought to technique, would be exhausting. Then add the physical/muscular requirements of operating it well.
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PostThu Mar 26, 2020 9:43 pm

John Paines wrote:Those two together will run around 11lbs, not including a lens or accessories. Without a vest and arm, it's hard to see how anyone will be able to operate it. Just carrying the thing, with no thought to technique, would be exhausting. Then add the physical/muscular requirements of operating it well.


The spec says it can carry up to 6.5Kg or about 14.3lbs. I wouldn't mount the monitor or other heavy accessories on the camera itself. I would mount it on one of the handle mount points like most do with the Ronin S. This definitely will require a mechanical arm and vest. A lightweight vest and arm will do. I am hoping the Zhiyun will have a dual arm handle that can carry the gimbal with the cine cam to distribute and relieve the weight from the operator. I think someone will figure out how best to carry this thing. But just having an affordable gimbal that can carry the UMP is a step in the right direction. I'm happy they created the 3S and looking for other gimbal vendors to up the game. Gudsen is yet to unveil their Mosa Air X.
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PostFri Mar 27, 2020 3:31 am

Unless you’re doing very quick takes and rest between takes, the sample BTS we’ve seen will be very hard in your back and knees and muscles. Something like the Easy Rig or Steadicam with an arm will be a life saver but the costs of these accessories quickly eclipses the budget cost of the Crane 3S gear. It’s a bit like the arguments over the ‘true cost’ of the BMPCC4K. The Crane 3S looks decent, but I don’t know if I’ll ever buy a gimbal because I’d need to spend thousands on the accessories to make it a joy to operate.

If you’re a third my age and workout in the gym religiously, you might manage with just the gimbal for awhile.
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PostSat Mar 28, 2020 10:52 pm

How i say already in the title topic IS JUST MARKETING!!! UMP G2 it's not on list of compatible cameras.https://www.bhphotovideo.com/lit_files/580685.pdf
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PostSun Mar 29, 2020 1:07 am

There is no blackmagic camera on the compatibility list
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PostSun Mar 29, 2020 1:14 am

indeed it is a bit strange why gimbals generally are not compatible with cinema cameras, but with many stills cameras. Nikon, Canon, Sony, Panasonic. But not Red, BMD, or Canon cinema. It should be the other way round. Must have something to do with protocols or licensing, I don't know.
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PostSun Mar 29, 2020 3:58 am

Actually, the BMD cameras are on that list. On pages 15-17. And so are Red and lots of other cinema cameras.

From the notes at the bottom:

1. Cine cameras have multiple modules and different users may have
different modules, so the compatible maximum lens may vary from one
to another.
2. The compatibility list may not include all the compatible cine cameras
and lens. Please check with customer service if you have a question.
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Re: Zhiyun CRANE 3S really stabilize UMPG2 or is just market

PostSun Mar 29, 2020 4:07 am

Chris Leutger wrote:Actually, the BMD cameras are on that list. On pages 15-17.

Yes BMD is there but no UMP G2 in the list. The marketing guy for Zhiyun showed during the streaming video a set-up with the UMP. He shows it around 36:43.

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