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BMPCC4K V2

PostSun Jul 14, 2019 9:50 am

I'm hearing rumours of a Pocket 4K 'update' with a tilt screen, optional loupe, built in battery grip, various anamorphic modes and a user adjustable sensor crop from full sensor to S16 like the JVC LS300 VSM feature.

Hope it's true. :o
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Re: BMPCC4K V2

PostSun Jul 14, 2019 11:48 am

"Those who say don't know, and those who know don't say." That sums it up about rumors.

It seems early in the game for BMD to release a new version of the Pocket 4K, but who knows. The generation 2 Ursa Mini Pro 4.6K came out 2 years after the first generation (Ursa Mini Pro was announced in March 2017; Ursa Mini Pro Gen 2 was announced in March 2019). Pocket 4K was announced in 2018.
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Re: BMPCC4K V2

PostSun Jul 14, 2019 12:50 pm

With many folks in some countries still awaiting deliveries, and having received my camera just over two weeks ago, announcing a Pocket with very significant improvements is going to feel painful. Then again, if it was only announced and still took another year to deliver, not quite the dagger to the heart. Change is constant. There are several areas that could benefit from improvements, while the Pocket 4K is a winner overall.

Honestly though, I’d rather see that new optional viewfinder, like the BMVF, but less expensive, articulated, smaller, and able to be positioned anywhere. The existing BMVF is near perfect except for its design as a dongle to the BM Shoulder Mount kit. A BPVF isn’t going to be painful like a significantly redesigned Pocket camera; it’ll be an enhancement to the camera you own.


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Re: BMPCC4K V2

PostSun Jul 14, 2019 3:13 pm

Jean Capdouzey wrote:I'm hearing rumours of a Pocket 4K 'update' with a tilt screen, optional loupe, built in battery grip, various anamorphic modes and a user adjustable sensor crop from full sensor to S16 like the JVC LS300 VSM feature.

Hope it's true. :o


If true, I doubt that it will be 1299.


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Re: BMPCC4K V2

PostSun Jul 14, 2019 3:17 pm

In a future version ("II")
    I would like to see the 2 internal drives removed and replaced with a caddy/cartridge system that utilizes dual slots ->2x, M.2 SSD 80s, that can facilitate dual recording for data safety. SSD are cheap, and EXTREMELY fast and by using a caddy/cartridge system they can be popped in and out as needed.

    I would also like to have a large capacity battery/grip that holds a "standard" form factor even if that means a cartridge that holds 4x 18650 lithium ion types (or whatever) giving around 40++Wh. (Or maybe in a flat style that is built into the bottom.

    Lastly a screen that flips up and down to see better...
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Re: BMPCC4K V2

PostSun Jul 14, 2019 3:38 pm

Technically, wouldn't this be V3 since V1 was the CDNG version? ;)
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Re: BMPCC4K V2

PostSun Jul 14, 2019 3:53 pm

No, that was version 1 rev 2. :roll: :roll:
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Re: BMPCC4K V2

PostSun Jul 14, 2019 4:52 pm

To my knowledge BMD has only updated the ursa cameras. If they would update the p4k I would like it to be in another form factor, maybe like a bigger bm micro studio camera (wider/deeper). Plus all the other things mentioned here.

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Re: BMPCC4K V2

PostSun Jul 14, 2019 11:10 pm

They can put this https://www.fairchildimaging.com/produc ... rs/mst4323 new Fairchild lmaging's BSI sCMOS 3.0 4K sensor to same body or to the BMMCC-like brick. This allow to match camera to classic look ofBMCC/BMPCC/BMMCC/Ursa4.6k dual gain sensors.
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Re: BMPCC4K V2

PostWed Jul 17, 2019 5:12 am

Australian Image wrote:Nah! They'll be coming out with what I suggested, a small form-factor, fixed lens, MFT sensor, weather-proof, cine camera. :)


Why?
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Re: BMPCC4K V2

PostWed Jul 17, 2019 11:46 am

Dmitry Shijan wrote:They can put this https://www.fairchildimaging.com/produc ... rs/mst4323 new Fairchild lmaging's BSI sCMOS 3.0 4K sensor to same body or to the BMMCC-like brick. This allow to match camera to classic look ofBMCC/BMPCC/BMMCC/Ursa4.6k dual gain sensors.


May have slighly better color depth at the cost of low light capabilities I think.
Still can stretch Pocket 4K footage too make it look like it has better depth though.
Works fine on the eyes but not so much on the vectorscope lol.
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Re: BMPCC4K V2

PostFri Jul 19, 2019 2:26 pm

Australian Image wrote:
Jean Capdouzey wrote:
Australian Image wrote:Nah! They'll be coming out with what I suggested, a small form-factor, fixed lens, MFT sensor, weather-proof, cine camera. :)


Why?


Because!


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Re: BMPCC4K V2

PostFri Jul 19, 2019 10:27 pm

I would rather see a Micro version of the 4K
and honestly, I don't think Black Magic cares about flippy screens. At least I hope not
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Re: BMPCC4K V2

PostFri Aug 23, 2019 10:14 am

Why?[/quote]

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Re: BMPCC4K V2

PostFri Aug 23, 2019 10:16 am

ricardo marty wrote:
Jean Capdouzey wrote:I'm hearing rumours of a Pocket 4K 'update' with a tilt screen, optional loupe, built in battery grip, various anamorphic modes and a user adjustable sensor crop from full sensor to S16 like the JVC LS300 VSM feature.

Hope it's true. :o


If true, I doubt that it will be 1299.


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Re: BMPCC4K V2

PostFri Aug 23, 2019 1:15 pm

Dmitry Shijan wrote:They can put this https://www.fairchildimaging.com/produc ... rs/mst4323 new Fairchild lmaging's BSI sCMOS 3.0 4K sensor to same body or to the BMMCC-like brick. This allow to match camera to classic look ofBMCC/BMPCC/BMMCC/Ursa4.6k dual gain sensors.


that would be a dream of many customers who are dissatisfied with the sony sensor and there are many of them. Well, I'd buy a camera like that right now. Until then, I'm staying at bmpcc. :)
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Re: BMPCC4K V2

PostFri Aug 23, 2019 4:31 pm

New pocket 9k soon, can’t wait ;)

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Re: BMPCC4K V2

PostFri Aug 23, 2019 4:44 pm

Jean Capdouzey wrote:I'm hearing rumours of a Pocket 4K 'update' with a tilt screen, optional loupe, built in battery grip, various anamorphic modes and a user adjustable sensor crop from full sensor to S16 like the JVC LS300 VSM feature.

Hope it's true. :o


If you would, please be so kind and divulge how you became privy to this...
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Re: BMPCC4K V2

PostSat Aug 24, 2019 1:04 am

Right Jean, :lol: To get back on topic, I would like to see an upgraded Micro type camera also, could be 4K or a larger S35 Sensor 6K, with PL mount. :roll:

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Re: BMPCC4K V2

PostSat Aug 24, 2019 6:50 am

Denny Smith wrote:Guys, Jean is winding you all up... :roll:
You might want to consider not taking the bait.
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I think you're winding me up, you have been since I joined.....lay off the troll juice bruva.
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Re: BMPCC4K V2

PostSat Aug 24, 2019 1:12 pm

Well, the 6k is out. But I wonder if we will get a preview of another camera soon at the show soon. What you describe sounds very much like an more advanced form of my suggested upgrade format for the micro, except rotatable detachable handle. The display breaks away too, to leave just a FOV/DRONE/Crash can/security camera (the good type in security areas and Casinos. Lucrative with braw, but they need to preserve detail for evidence).

I don't know where that post is, but the flip screen goes on the back of a battery and tilts multiple ways, including out and around and up like a camcorder holding position and screen. You can use low, high or side, and get and away from the sun.
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