List of approved CFast Cards

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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

PostTue Sep 26, 2017 9:10 pm

How about the FreeTail 3700x Cfast cards? They appear to be the least expensive and claim they hit the same speeds as the rest of these companies?

Is there any testing in progress?
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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

PostWed Sep 27, 2017 6:37 pm

JohnnyDautsman wrote:How about the FreeTail 3700x Cfast cards? They appear to be the least expensive and claim they hit the same speeds as the rest of these companies?

Is there any testing in progress?


Those prices are tempting, though after shooting 4:1 RAW 60fps I don't want a card smaller than 512GB and that company only goes up to 256GB.

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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

PostThu Sep 28, 2017 10:06 am

I'm wary of a company who has a card they claim goes more than 10% faster than the theoretical speed limit of SATA...
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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

PostFri Dec 01, 2017 9:52 pm

With sustained write speeds of only 130 MB/s, I don’t think these new G Series CFast 2 cards from Sony are suitable for the URSA family.

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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

PostSat Dec 02, 2017 7:07 am

rick.lang wrote:With sustained write speeds of only 130 MB/s, I don’t think these new G Series CFast 2 cards from Sony are suitable for the URSA family.

http://www.newsshooter.com/2017/11/29/n ... ange-sony/



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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

PostSat Dec 23, 2017 4:03 am

Christopher, like your attitude. Remember though for raw, you can record to two cards so the data rate to a given card is then half what you would need if you were recording to a single card. When recording to two cards, the even numbered frames go to one card and the odd numbered frames go to the other card.


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PostSat Dec 23, 2017 4:14 am

rick.lang wrote:Christopher, like your attitude. Remember though for raw, you can record to two cards so the data rate to a given card is then half what you would need if you were recording to a single card. When recording to two cards, the even numbered frames go to one card and the odd numbered frames go to the other card.


Thanks Rick, on that note I'll go dual 512GB cards ;)

Which by the way I ordered the 512GB CFast 2.0 from Egodisk last night and will report back the Blackmagic Speed Test results + any dropped frames with 4K60p CDNG, 3:1 and 4:1. Probably will arrive next Friday.

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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

PostSat Dec 23, 2017 7:33 pm

You know more about those Egodisk cards than I do. I stay with cards on the approved list but they are considerably more expensive.


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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

PostTue Feb 06, 2018 11:41 am

Tim Schumann wrote:Just because one card from a manufacturer is on the list, doesn't mean that different similar models and different capacities from the same manufacturer will pass. Even if it lists that it is higher speed.

Not all card media are created equal.

We only list cards that we have tested extensively and certified for recording footage continuously on our cameras.


As Tim mentioned - we were not able to send the 256GB 3700x card as were out on stock at that time. All our 3700X cards have been successfully been tested on the cameras. You can check some reviews on Amazon USa and Amazon UK

We had a firmware update in Q1 2017 that fixed all old bugs. All cards in global market is with the latest firmware.

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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

PostTue Feb 06, 2018 7:15 pm

komputerbay wrote:
Tim Schumann wrote:Not all card media are created equal.

We only list cards that we have tested extensively and certified for recording footage continuously on our cameras.

As Tim mentioned - we were not able to send the 256GB 3700x card as were out on stock at that time. All our 3700X cards have been successfully been tested on the cameras. You can check some reviews on Amazon USA and Amazon UK
Please feel free to send through the 3700x cards when they become available, as requested, but we can not add them to the list until we have run them through our full certification process.
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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

PostThu Feb 08, 2018 2:25 am

rick.lang wrote:You know more about those Egodisk cards than I do. I stay with cards on the approved list but they are considerably more expensive.

Did some tests with the EgoDisk 512GB Elite Pro:

No dropped frames with RAW 4K60p 4:1 and 3:1.
But frames start dropping after a few seconds of RAW Lossless 4K60p

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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

PostMon Feb 12, 2018 12:27 am

Christopher Dobey wrote:
rick.lang wrote:You know more about those Egodisk cards than I do. I stay with cards on the approved list but they are considerably more expensive.

Did some tests with the EgoDisk 512GB Elite Pro:

No dropped frames with RAW 4K60p 4:1 and 3:1.
But frames start dropping after a few seconds of RAW Lossless 4K60p

Rest of the findings are at my Blog Post


I dont think any single card can do that.. that is 1.025MB/s (without the known compression for lossless), on an interface with a teoretical speed of 600MB/s..

Test with lower frameratea one by one, and work your way through what can be done, and what cannot be done.

And remember do the test with actually footage - not black lens cap shots. The data is compressed remember.. so test something that is very variable to flex tve muscles of the card to maximum! ;-)
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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

PostMon Feb 12, 2018 12:45 am

Thanks for the feedback, Christopher. As Dennis mentioned, that’s normal for 60 fps at 4K which requires dual card recording in raw. ProRes can do it on a single card, but not lossless raw.


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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

PostMon Feb 12, 2018 2:05 am

Yes the faster cards on the recommended list for 4K or 4.6K Lossless RAW can generally sustain up to 40 frames per second to a single card without dropping frames. Above that you are into burst speeds where a single card can sustain that data rate for five, ten or fifteen seconds before it maxes out.

Compressed 3:1 or 4:1 RAW at 60p to a single card is less of an issue for most cards, which is why we introduced those two options.
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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

PostMon Feb 12, 2018 4:07 am

Tim Schumann wrote:Compressed 3:1 or 4:1 RAW at 60p to a single card is less of an issue for most cards, which is why we introduced those two options.


Thank you for chiming in Tim. I tested 4K60p RAW (4:1,3:1) again with footage that has constant motion with 'stop rec if card drops frame' enabled. No frames dropped until the card ran out with a single 512GB EgoDisk.
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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

PostSat Mar 31, 2018 4:58 pm

Thank you for your help.
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Kristian Lam wrote:The following CFast 2.0 cards were added to the URSA supported list:

Transcend 128GB CFX650
Transcend 256GB CFX650
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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

PostMon May 21, 2018 4:56 pm

The Egodisk Elite Pro 256 GB CFAST Card 2.0, it's good for the Ursa Mini 4.6?
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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

PostMon May 21, 2018 10:38 pm

This card is not on the recommended list so no, we wouldn't recommend it.
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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

PostWed May 23, 2018 10:15 pm

and the Komputerbay Professional 3700 x 256 GB?
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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

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Tony Rivera wrote:Here is the list of CFast cards that have cleared our approval for the URSA Cameras.

This link at the top of this thread will provide information on the cards that are approved.
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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

PostMon Sep 17, 2018 2:37 pm

Is there a supported CFast card list for the Pocket 4K yet?
I can't see it.
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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

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Why so slow - lack of response?
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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

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Other than the information provided in the Pocket Cinema Camera 4K manual currently, there is no list of media because the camera has not shipped at this time. Expect an update to the support page regarding media when it does start to ship.
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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

PostFri Sep 21, 2018 6:58 am

Thanks.
I just saw some 'open box' Cfast on offer and would rather buy something discounted than a full price CFast on the day my Pocket ships.
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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

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Wondering how the approved cards perform with BRAW. Gearing up for a feature and trying to decide on media. It seems that the approved card list indicates that there are no CFast cards that support 4.6k RAW. Is that correct for the old DNG RAW and BRAW? Or should I just resign myself to the SSD adapter? I want to avoid that so I don't add more weight to the camera for Movi shots.
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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

PostFri Sep 28, 2018 4:00 pm

Tony Rivera wrote:Other than the information provided in the Pocket Cinema Camera 4K manual currently, there is no list of media because the camera has not shipped at this time. Expect an update to the support page regarding media when it does start to ship.
Hi Tony, wondered if a Blackmagic Design list has been made up as yet.

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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

PostMon Oct 01, 2018 12:00 am

bradyhall wrote:Wondering how the approved cards perform with BRAW. Gearing up for a feature and trying to decide on media. It seems that the approved card list indicates that there are no CFast cards that support 4.6k RAW. Is that correct for the old DNG RAW and BRAW? Or should I just resign myself to the SSD adapter? I want to avoid that so I don't add more weight to the camera for Movi shots.


We are in the process of certifying cards for Blackmagic RAW at the moment.

If you select any of the cards that are on the list for URSA Mini at 4K Lossless RAW 30p then these will cope with any of the Blackmagic RAW variants easily.
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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

PostFri Oct 19, 2018 1:47 am

Hi everyone, I'm about to get an URSA mini pro 4.6k and I wonder if these Cfast Cards can hold the use on it.
ProGrade Digital 256GB CFast 2.0 Memory Card. the have a very fair price and the info they have seems to match the others Cfast cards you recommend. any idea?? thanks
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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

PostSat Oct 20, 2018 4:33 pm

This $129 256gb Cfast card on Amazon (prime even) claims to be certified by Blackmagic. Yet it's not on the approved list. Is it true? or too good to be true? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079WMSV8Q/?c ... merReviews
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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

PostSat Oct 20, 2018 7:40 pm

JoseLumaFilms wrote:Hi everyone, I'm about to get an URSA mini pro 4.6k and I wonder if these Cfast Cards can hold the use on it.
ProGrade Digital 256GB CFast 2.0 Memory Card. the have a very fair price and the info they have seems to match the others Cfast cards you recommend. any idea?? thanks


Yes the ProGrade Digital cards are on the certified lists for the Mini Pro.
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Re: List of approved CFast Cards

PostFri Nov 02, 2018 3:18 am

Card list updated for CFast and SD cards for Blackmagic RAW today -

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/au/support/faq/59015
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