beta 2 crashes on 12k files

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beta 2 crashes on 12k files

PostMon Aug 10, 2020 1:51 pm

I'm on a 2010 mac pro with a Radeon VII card and osx 10.15.4 resolve crashes when I i drag in the 12k sample files. Attached is the crash logs
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Re: beta 2 crashes on 12k files

PostThu Sep 03, 2020 12:37 pm

How does this setup work with non beta? Stable? Did you have to modify the power supply?

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Re: beta 2 crashes on 12k files

PostThu Sep 03, 2020 5:16 pm

Apparently I missed the OP's message. The CPU's in that Mac don't work with the current BRAW 2.0 code. Hopefully this will be improved.
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Re: beta 2 crashes on 12k files

PostSat Sep 05, 2020 3:33 pm

GregGreenhaw wrote:I'm on a 2010 mac pro with a Radeon VII card and osx 10.15.4 resolve crashes when I i drag in the 12k sample files. Attached is the crash logs


missing AVX instruction in the old xeon : -(
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Re: beta 2 crashes on 12k files

PostFri Oct 09, 2020 4:30 pm

so will the older mac never work with the 12k?
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Re: beta 2 crashes on 12k files

PostFri Oct 09, 2020 4:47 pm

Not necessarily... work continues. Maybe, maybe not.

Just an FYI: No improvements yet in this area in the 16.3b3 code.
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Re: beta 2 crashes on 12k files

PostFri Oct 09, 2020 8:43 pm

: -(
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Re: beta 2 crashes on 12k files

PostThu Feb 25, 2021 6:15 pm

Dwaine Maggart wrote:Not necessarily... work continues. Maybe, maybe not.

Just an FYI: No improvements yet in this area in the 16.3b3 code.

Any word on this in the final release?
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Re: beta 2 crashes on 12k files

PostThu Feb 25, 2021 7:03 pm

Only that there is no change in this area.
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Re: beta 2 crashes on 12k files

PostThu Feb 25, 2021 8:50 pm

GregGreenhaw wrote:I'm on a 2010 mac pro with a Radeon VII card and osx 10.15.4 resolve crashes when I i drag in the 12k sample files. Attached is the crash logs


With the understanding that you need TONS of RAM to work in anything DCI 4K or greater here is a thread that might help you specific to a 12K setup for Resolve:

https://nofilmschool.com/12k-workflow-i ... t-projects

Check out BareFeats.com for other ways to boost the performance of the old MP tower.
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Re: beta 2 crashes on 12k files

PostThu Feb 25, 2021 9:19 pm

@Robert: That's all good general info. But that not the issue here.

Older MacPro tower CPU's don't have the processor extensions needed to decode 12K BRAW. Systems with those older CPU's will just crash if you attempt to view or play a 12K BRAW file.

It MAY be possible that the BRAW decoding can be modified to support those older CPUs, but there is no guarantee that will be possible or will happen.
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Re: beta 2 crashes on 12k files

PostThu Feb 25, 2021 11:00 pm

sorry dwaine

the problem is NOT the old xeon in a lagacy macpro

this is my main cMP 5,1 (2010) and this excellent player work well
with your 12k testfiles on this old maschine!

only your RAWplayer and resolve crashes with the 12k files

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Re: beta 2 crashes on 12k files

PostThu Feb 25, 2021 11:25 pm

I'm glad your 3rd party player app works. Our decoder doesn't work due to the lack of currently supported extensions in your Xeon CPUs.
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Re: beta 2 crashes on 12k files

PostFri Feb 26, 2021 12:14 am

Dwaine Maggart wrote:I'm glad your 3rd party player app works. Our decoder doesn't work due to the lack of currently supported extensions in your Xeon CPUs.


also UAUDIO has reprogrammed the necessity of AVX from their program LUNA in the last version
because a lot of studios still work with the old macpro and only switch to a newer one
when apple releases a macpro with M1(x)
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Re: beta 2 crashes on 12k files

PostFri Feb 26, 2021 12:23 am

I have the same issue on my MacPro, so I'm also hoping this can be addressed.
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Re: beta 2 crashes on 12k files

PostFri Feb 26, 2021 3:30 am

Dwaine Maggart wrote:@Robert: That's all good general info. But that not the issue here.

Older MacPro tower CPU's don't have the processor extensions needed to decode 12K BRAW. Systems with those older CPU's will just crash if you attempt to view or play a 12K BRAW file.

It MAY be possible that the BRAW decoding can be modified to support those older CPUs, but there is no guarantee that will be possible or will happen.


I came across other related issues (not attributed to Resolve) that made me change my plan to "upgrade".
The original recent plan was to purchase the old MP tower (pre 2013) and bump it up with max RAM, big GPU and newer PCI-e based SSD RAID to be the primary edit station.

But with the advent of Big Sur and a few other not-so-well-known gotchas I'm actually dumping the tower I just bought and instead going with a max'd out, new iMac with 8-cores and max RAM (128GB).

Between issues with BRAW, ProRes RAW and any HDR workflow the older tower is finally outdated and unusable. It was gonna happen sooner or later...
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Re: beta 2 crashes on 12k files

PostWed Mar 10, 2021 6:03 am

The just released Resolve 17.1 version should allow MacPro 5,1 systems to now decode BRAW 12K files.
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Re: beta 2 crashes on 12k files

PostWed Mar 10, 2021 9:59 am

Don't dump the old workhorse yet! I would not invest a penny any more in an Intel machine for MacOS.
Rather keep it going with a supported Radeon GPU.
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