Pyxis Release Date

Any rumblings on when they might start rolling out the new cameras this month?

What better time than Cine Gear Expo 2024 Los Angeles, June 7-9?

What better time than Cine Gear Expo 2024 Los Angeles, June 7-9?

I'll be there!

The Pyxis models displayed at Cine Gear are still the pre-release models with some functions not enabled, so I'm guessing we're still a little ways off before an actual release.

But, having gotten to play with it, I'd say the Pyxis is a great little camera and I suspect it will do very well for Blackmagic.

I spoke to a rep at their booth yesterday and was told June/July release. I'd be surprised if it's available before July.

Dave, thanks for the update. I’m not saying the release will wait for IBC in September, but that may give them an opportunity to impact a more international audience than this weekend’s Cine Gear.

B&H has added "Expected availability: End of Jul 2024" to their listing. Hopefully, that's for anyone who orders now, and the first shipment to fulfill pre-orders will arrive sooner.

Cine Gear-Veni, Vidi, I was Vici'd!

What a pretty little thing.

Any of the BMD fan "old timers" remember the original "July" release.
Ah! Good Times!

Long live BMD!

Grant Petty, everyday I bless your parents because you have made my life exciting.

Cine Gear-Veni, Vidi, I was Vici'd!

What a pretty little thing.

Any of the BMD fan "old timers" remember the original "July" release...

Thanks for the feedback, Leon.

I remember. It seems BMD is fond of providing a production run shipping due date when the product is first announced and development is near complete. Let’s say a camera is described as “June” which sounds very encouraging and puts the brakes on prospective customers’ purchases of Sony, Panasonic, Canon, and other cameras. But we’ve learned they often don’t say which year, just a month.

Our existing cameras work very well to produce great images within their generous limitations. But the lure of improvements is a strong force of human nature. Once again other life priorities make my financial limitations bounded, but things should be getting better so a new camera is welcome here when it’s irresistible and impossible to ignore.

End of July, most likely August 9th is the date I was told. The year was suspiciously missing from that communication

My info is from my pre-purchase with B&H Photo.

well, any new release date guesses?

IBC early or mid-September?

I just hope it’s not an Ursa Mini type release where the features they announced were not all included

Perhaps that is one of the reasons the release seems to be delayed from the original anticipated release.

Delays can be caused by many things, such as availability [or lack thereof] of parts that perform as expected/required, or some sort of non-trivial manufacturing issue (or natural disaster), or internal software/firmware development (the last 10% of a software development sometimes takes a l-o-n-g time), or waiting on an unannounced killer in-house or 3rd party hardware/software feature or accessory, and so forth. These aren't things unique to BMD.

It would be cool if the PYXIS USB-C ports -- and their potential for use with some yet unknown killer accessory(s) -- was the source of the delay. IOW, pulling such a deal together could take some extra work & time. That could make for a really big "one more thing" surprise when the camera ships! But even if the camera ships exactly as it was described earlier this year at NAB, with no additional capabilities, it'll still be warmly welcomed by many happy customers. Something to look forward to, either way.

Peter, sounds like you could start a thread here for Pyxis Killer Accessories such as a modular articulated monitor designed to integrate with Pyxis that was suggested earlier.

Peter, sounds like you could start a thread here for Pyxis Killer Accessories such as a modular articulated monitor designed to integrate with Pyxis that was suggested earlier.

I'll look for that earlier discussion you mention. Do you have a link?

I anticipate BMD and/or 3rd parties will have a field day developing accessories for the new USB-C ports on the PYXIS and other new BMD cameras. For example, very thin, lightweight monitor/controllers (that look like a smartphone or small tablet) seem like an obvious device category. New versions of Video Assist will be like this, in addition to their recording capabilities. And multi-channel audio input devices. Some of these will feature wireless A/V & remote control. All this is wild conjecture on my part. We'll see.

Peter, sounds like you could start a thread here for Pyxis Killer Accessories such as a modular articulated monitor designed to integrate with Pyxis that was suggested earlier.

I'll look for that earlier discussion you mention. Do you have a link?

I anticipate BMD and/or 3rd parties will have a field day developing accessories for the new USB-C ports on the PYXIS and other new BMD cameras. For example, very thin, lightweight monitor/controllers (that look like a smartphone or small tablet) seem like an obvious device category. New versions of Video Assist will be like this, in addition to their recording capabilities. And multi-channel audio input devices. Some of these will feature wireless A/V & remote control. All this is wild conjecture on my part. We'll see.

So, no surprise, a new "PYXIS Monitor" is announced. How about that.

I think the significance of this announcement is: Blackmagic is now finally selling their industry-leading user interface as a remote control. IOW, the new PYXIS Monitor is actually a remote control featuring the BMD touchscreen UI, which can also function as a video monitor. It's the most "BMD UI-first, hardware-second" product yet. Something I've been waiting for since the original BMD Cinema Camera 2.5K was announced. Hooray!

If PYXIS is a "box" camera, then PYXIS Monitor is literally "thinking outside the box". Again, finally!

I hope this new "BMD UI-first" philosophy will define a new product line. It doesn't replace BMD's hardware-centric products, but instead develops in parallel. For example, the URSA Cine 12K LF is a hardware-centric product, and its USB-C port enables it to connect to new BMD products featuring two-way remote control via the BMD UI.

Going forward, new Blackmagic Design products which use the BMD OS UI to both control the device itself and act as a remote control for the connected BMD device via USB-C may include:

• New Video Assist models with USB-C remote capability and A/V I/O (& possibly wireless I/O).
• New multi-channel USB-C audio I/O devices (& possibly wireless I/O).
• New "URSA Monitor" (similar to the PYXIS Monitor, but bigger & higher-res).
• A software update for the mobile Camera app to enable use of recent BMD monitors, EVF, VA, audio I/O, etc. with newish iPhones and iOS, iPad OS, and Android devices -- all via USB-C and/or wireless.

Hopefully this means more of BMD's future cameras will not include a built-in monitor, and instead can use a device such as the PYXIS Monitor as a remote control and monitor. The Micro Studio Camera 4K G2 might be the first to do this -- TBD. I'm not saying BMD should omit screens in all of their cameras, but instead offer more cameras with remote-capable USB-C and without a built-in screen.

And, all new BMD devices will include a USB-C interface capable of A/V I/O and remote control via the BMD UI as appropriate.

Peter, I was referring to your previous post in this thread about killer accessories. You’re obviously on fire now which is good to see! The Pyxis is accessorized on the right side of the camera with a few options already, but that may be an approach that Pyxis and future cameras extend further as you suggest. I like what the Pyxis represents and may achieve in the next year.

Also expect the URSA Cine 12K/17K to make a splash and hoping those cameras also break new ground for BMD as they enhance their reliability and support.

Peter, sounds like you could start a thread here for Pyxis Killer Accessories such as a modular articulated monitor designed to integrate with Pyxis that was suggested earlier.

I'll look for that earlier discussion you mention. Do you have a link?

I anticipate BMD and/or 3rd parties will have a field day developing accessories for the new USB-C ports on the PYXIS and other new BMD cameras. For example, very thin, lightweight monitor/controllers (that look like a smartphone or small tablet) seem like an obvious device category. New versions of Video Assist will be like this, in addition to their recording capabilities. And multi-channel audio input devices. Some of these will feature wireless A/V & remote control. All this is wild conjecture on my part. We'll see.

So, no surprise, a new "PYXIS Monitor" is announced. How about that.

I think the significance of this announcement is: Blackmagic is now finally selling their industry-leading user interface as a remote control. IOW, the new PYXIS Monitor is actually a remote control featuring the BMD touchscreen UI, which can also function as a video monitor. It's the most "BMD UI-first, hardware-second" product yet. Something I've been waiting for since the original BMD Cinema Camera 2.5K was announced. Hooray!

If PYXIS is a "box" camera, then PYXIS Monitor is literally "thinking outside the box". Again, finally!

I hope this new "BMD UI-first" philosophy will define a new product line. It doesn't replace BMD's hardware-centric products, but instead develops in parallel. For example, the URSA Cine 12K LF is a hardware-centric product, and its USB-C port enables it to connect to new BMD products featuring two-way remote control via the BMD UI.

Going forward, new Blackmagic Design products which use the BMD OS UI to both control the device itself and act as a remote control for the connected BMD device via USB-C may include:

• New Video Assist models with USB-C remote capability and A/V I/O (& possibly wireless I/O).
• New multi-channel USB-C audio I/O devices (& possibly wireless I/O).
• New "URSA Monitor" (similar to the PYXIS Monitor, but bigger & higher-res).
• A software update for the mobile Camera app to enable use of recent BMD monitors, EVF, VA, audio I/O, etc. with newish iPhones and iOS, iPad OS, and Android devices -- all via USB-C and/or wireless.

Hopefully this means more of BMD's future cameras will not include a built-in monitor, and instead can use a device such as the PYXIS Monitor as a remote control and monitor. The Micro Studio Camera 4K G2 might be the first to do this -- TBD. I'm not saying BMD should omit screens in all of their cameras, but instead offer more cameras with remote-capable USB-C and without a built-in screen.

And, all new BMD devices will include a USB-C interface capable of A/V I/O and remote control via the BMD UI as appropriate.

This analysis seems to mistakenly believe that the OS is locally executing from the accessory. Instead, the accessory is merely behaving like many other touchscreen monitors that access the controls of the body OS. Therefore the accessory's launch doesn't portend a new modular product philosophy; it's just a bit more customized for Blackmagic cameras than touchscreen monitors by Portkeys that have been controlling cameras for many years.

Meant to be out in July, looks like they delayed it to get the external monitor/camera controller out to compensate for the design flaw. Remember Blackmagic suppose to not announce a camera unless they are being shipped

man, it's gotta be right around the corner, right? Has anyone at IBC asked a rep?

man, it's gotta be right around the corner, right? Has anyone at IBC asked a rep?

I saw one video from IBC where a BMD Rep said the UCine12K is shipping now. I'd guess since the Firmware 9.0 gave support for the UCine12K and it is now shipping according to that statement, then maybe with the release of Firmware 9.1 to support the PYXIS that it too is now starting to ship. That's a guess. Here's the video below:

The Aputure Storm 1200x with 5 multi-coloured LEDs looks interesting. Nice to see something that replaces the CRI ratings and tries to mimic the full spectrum of sunlight or tungsten etc.

The URSA Cine LF was a disappointing interview with the only thing we needed to hear was the shipping status.

I anticipate BMD and/or 3rd parties will have a field day developing accessories for the new USB-C ports on the PYXIS and other new BMD cameras. For example, very thin, lightweight monitor/controllers (that look like a smartphone or small tablet) seem like an obvious device category. New versions of Video Assist will be like this, in addition to their recording capabilities. And multi-channel audio input devices. Some of these will feature wireless A/V & remote control. All this is wild conjecture on my part. We'll see.

So, no surprise, a new "PYXIS Monitor" is announced. How about that.

I think the significance of this announcement is: Blackmagic is now finally selling their industry-leading user interface as a remote control. IOW, the new PYXIS Monitor is actually a remote control featuring the BMD touchscreen UI, which can also function as a video monitor. It's the most "BMD UI-first, hardware-second" product yet. Something I've been waiting for since the original BMD Cinema Camera 2.5K was announced. Hooray!

If PYXIS is a "box" camera, then PYXIS Monitor is literally "thinking outside the box". Again, finally!

I hope this new "BMD UI-first" philosophy will define a new product line. It doesn't replace BMD's hardware-centric products, but instead develops in parallel. For example, the URSA Cine 12K LF is a hardware-centric product, and its USB-C port enables it to connect to new BMD products featuring two-way remote control via the BMD UI.

Going forward, new Blackmagic Design products which use the BMD OS UI to both control the device itself and act as a remote control for the connected BMD device via USB-C may include:

• New Video Assist models with USB-C remote capability and A/V I/O (& possibly wireless I/O).
• New multi-channel USB-C audio I/O devices (& possibly wireless I/O).
• New "URSA Monitor" (similar to the PYXIS Monitor, but bigger & higher-res).
• A software update for the mobile Camera app to enable use of recent BMD monitors, EVF, VA, audio I/O, etc. with newish iPhones and iOS, iPad OS, and Android devices -- all via USB-C and/or wireless.

Hopefully this means more of BMD's future cameras will not include a built-in monitor, and instead can use a device such as the PYXIS Monitor as a remote control and monitor. The Micro Studio Camera 4K G2 might be the first to do this -- TBD. I'm not saying BMD should omit screens in all of their cameras, but instead offer more cameras with remote-capable USB-C and without a built-in screen.

And, all new BMD devices will include a USB-C interface capable of A/V I/O and remote control via the BMD UI as appropriate.

This analysis seems to mistakenly believe that the OS is locally executing from the accessory. Instead, the accessory is merely behaving like many other touchscreen monitors that access the controls of the body OS. Therefore the accessory's launch doesn't portend a new modular product philosophy; it's just a bit more customized for Blackmagic cameras than touchscreen monitors by Portkeys that have been controlling cameras for many years.

Apologies if I'm misunderstanding your point, but I'm referring to a possible new line of BMD products which act as both a touchscreen remote control for a BMD camera and also perform an add-on function. The new devices I'm proposing would not be general-purpose standalone products for use without a BMD camera.

For example, a multi-channel, multi-input audio interface unit with a touchscreen enabling control of the connected camera and the new, added audio capabilities. Further, the BMD OS could be updated to enable "locking out" certain functions (or UI "pages") so, for example, the person operating the new BMD audio input device would only be able to adjust audio settings, and not camera video settings, if desired.

However, I suppose future non-camera BMD products might work this way, too. For example, a future BMD video recording "deck" could be used with my proposed BMD touchscreen audio input device described above. The audio device's touchscreen could both remotely control the deck and add additional audio inputs to the BMD video deck.

I don't think you can trust a YouTuber on dates, but one did mention about 2-3 weeks availability of the Pyxis.
I'm just impatient, haha.

I don't think you can trust a YouTuber on dates, but one did mention about 2-3 weeks availability of the Pyxis.
I'm just impatient, haha.

I mean, after the long wait for the URSA Mini 4.6K in 2015 into 2016 the PYXIS announcement to release seems to be shorter. Blackmagic has been doing great over the last several years with announcement and release of cameras.

I think the Pocket 4K was the last announcement with release coming later, and that was April announcement with August release in 2018. After it's all been announcement and available today for the UMPG2, P6K, UMP12K, P6KPro, P6KG2, UMP12KOLPF, and BMCC6K.

So, considering UCine12K was April to September for announcement to release. And, it looks like PYXIS is similar I'd say Blackmagic isn't doing too bad. Sure they have to fulfill all those pre-orders and that will take time. And, it will take some time for those ordering now. But at least people will start getting their hands on their cameras soon.

The URSA Cine 17K LF is on the same one year trajectory as my original URSA Mini 4.6K. Denny Smith was visiting us when it finally arrived!

The URSA Cine 17K LF is on the same one year trajectory as my original URSA Mini 4.6K. Denny Smith was visiting us when it finally arrived!

True, but the UCine17K was kind of a “roadmap announcement” at NAB. The fact they had a working demo at IBC is promising. So it’s possible that they get it shipping before the March 2025 release date which would put it on par with the UM4.6K.


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Is the Pyxis 6K Vaporware? Where is the Pyxis 6K? They said June at NAB.

I’ve seen several people on social media posting images of their Pyxis.
I assume they are still testing? I know they haven’t shipped yet, but I could be wrong…

I get that delays can arise when shipping any new product, but the silence from BM is what's most frustrating. Inevitably it begins to raise concerns that there's an issue they'd rather we didn't know about. If not, why wouldn't they just come out and say "We're having an issue sourcing component X", etc.?

I am eager to get my hands on a PYXIS and have the cash put to one side to pay for it. But I have decided to give up my place in the queue and wait till the camera has been out in the real world for a few months before committing to buy. Just in case there are any bumps that need to be ironed out.

I decided to drop my Pyxis order and grab a UMP4.6KG2 back at end of May when they dropped the price in half for a couple weeks.

At this point, I'm thrilled with the camera, and that I HAVE the camera ...

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Production units started shipping out from the factory in the last weeks, so they should be trickling into the channels right now.

Thanks for the update, Kristian. Hopefully the trickle will become a flow soon

Production units started shipping out from the factory in the last weeks, so they should be trickling into the channels right now.

Great news! This camera does excite me despite not being something I'll be picking up until Gen 2 solves some of the few things I want improved. Namely internal ND and faster sensor readout with higher frame rates. But this definitely solves all the issues I ever had with the Pocket line in terms of body build and ergonomics. I really see the PYXIS as an URSA Micro. Great accomplishment!

Production units started shipping out from the factory in the last weeks, so they should be trickling into the channels right now.

Great news! This camera does excite me despite not being something I'll be picking up until Gen 2 solves some of the few things I want improved. Namely internal ND and faster sensor readout with higher frame rates. But this definitely solves all the issues I ever had with the Pocket line in terms of body build and ergonomics. I really see the PYXIS as an URSA Micro. Great accomplishment!

I believe someone (either Brawley or other) mentioned that the sensor size and the body would not allow for an internal ND. If an s35-sized sensor was small enough, then it's possible. It would be awesome to have a 9k sampling size of the URSA Cine in a Pyxis. I'd pay good money for that!

Production units started shipping out from the factory in the last weeks, so they should be trickling into the channels right now.

Great news! This camera does excite me despite not being something I'll be picking up until Gen 2 solves some of the few things I want improved. Namely internal ND and faster sensor readout with higher frame rates. But this definitely solves all the issues I ever had with the Pocket line in terms of body build and ergonomics. I really see the PYXIS as an URSA Micro. Great accomplishment!

I believe someone (either Brawley or other) mentioned that the sensor size and the body would not allow for an internal ND. If an s35-sized sensor was small enough, then it's possible. It would be awesome to have a 9k sampling size of the URSA Cine in a Pyxis. I'd pay good money for that!

Sony insisted this for years about their full-frame E-mount...until they didn't.

At the same time I don't see why we can't have internal ND for the PL version and the EF version. Those could have internal ND and then the L Mount could not have it.

Now, Canon has done internal ND for their RF Mount with the C400 and C80, and those have full frame sensors. Then Sony has internal ND for their Full Frame E Mount with the FX6, FX9, and Burano. So it may be possible for Blackmagic to do it with the L Mount one day.

Either way, I don't care if I have L Mount as I have PL lenses. So a PL version that has internal ND matters most for me, and that gets rid of the flange distance problems of a mirrorless mount like the L Mount.

The NDs have to move fully out of the way, requiring a pretty tall camera because of the sensor height. The C80 sensor height is 19mm compared to 24mm on the Pyxis.

The C80 body is 138mm tall (according to B&H) while the Pyxis is only 119mm tall.

Been following along on this and thought I'd add that I just received my Pyxis shipping notice. I'm in the US and ordered an L-mount, from B&H Photo, pre-ordered on April 19.