could you make a Flatpak for DaVinci Resolve Linux?

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Re: could you make a Flatpak for DaVinci Resolve Linux?

PostWed May 29, 2024 4:52 pm

I was juist going to ask this question.

I use ubuntu mainly for my daily driver, and now that i can use steam on linux for my games,...i want to eliminate windows from my life...the only thing thats missing is an easy install for DR on linux..

or even a repo so that i can add it and install from my commandline.
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Re: could you make a Flatpak for DaVinci Resolve Linux?

PostSat Jul 13, 2024 11:58 am

Let's say at first if there will be flatpak it would be best thing ever and I am okey if it is only for under studio license I still would pay it the one time payment to upgrade to studio this way everyone wins and get what they want people who wants Flatpak version have the choice to do so behind the paywall and BMD gets the money for it too to maintain and update
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Re: could you make a Flatpak for DaVinci Resolve Linux?

PostSat Jul 13, 2024 11:59 am

Flatpak really does make life easier when it comes to getting apps working across different Linux distros. It'd be awesome if Davinci Resolve could jump on board with a Flatpak package.
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Re: could you make a Flatpak for DaVinci Resolve Linux?

PostSat Jul 13, 2024 3:58 pm

There is another good option for BMD if no flatpak since they have already the black magic environment iso so it is easy to convert as container that already has everything needed to run it as container environment distrobox/docker/podman that wouldn't even need to do so much work for them to maintain everything and since containers are new way to manage everything
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Re: could you make a Flatpak for DaVinci Resolve Linux?

PostSun Jul 14, 2024 7:17 am

A far easier, and far more cost-effective solution, is for all the Linux users that want to use Resolve on Linux is to use the Linux that BMD have ported Resolve to. Problem solved.
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Re: could you make a Flatpak for DaVinci Resolve Linux?

PostSun Jul 14, 2024 8:38 am

well as my knowledge it has been CeonOS and Rocky Linux where CentOS is EOL and so does Rocky Linux now too

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so what is then supported Linux to use???
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Re: could you make a Flatpak for DaVinci Resolve Linux?

PostSun Jul 14, 2024 9:01 am

PhatLe wrote:well as my knowledge it has been CeonOS and Rocky Linux where CentOS is EOL and so does Rocky Linux now too

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so what is then supported Linux to use???


You misunderstand. Rocky Linux is NOT EOL
V8 is EOL 2029 and V9 is EOL 2032
I assume V10 will be EOL some time after 2032.

Much the same as Windows
Win 7 (EOL Jan 2020) Win 8.1 (EOL Jan 2023) Win 10 (EOL October 2025)

However, there are many thousands of different distributions of Linux, the vast majority of which are obsolete and unsupported.

This is the big problem with Linux, as strated by Linux Torvold many times when explaining why Linux will bever work as a generic mainstream desktop OS, is that there are many constantly changing distributions with no impetus to keep any of them going. There is no roadmap for the future of anyof them and they can change at any time at the drop or a hat on the whim of anyone.

This is why BMD supports one and only one version. There is no value in them doing anything else. As for those of you saying you would "even pay for the studio verson" to have Linux I would suggest it would be a "Linux Studio" version and the cost wouyld be way higher than the standard studion version.
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Re: could you make a Flatpak for DaVinci Resolve Linux?

PostWed Aug 14, 2024 5:07 pm

+1 for a Resolve Flatpak (from another paying customer trying to shift away from Windows for good)
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Re: could you make a Flatpak for DaVinci Resolve Linux?

PostMon Aug 19, 2024 7:57 am

I'd also like to see an officially supported Flatpak for DaVinci Resolve. In the digital audio workstation space, Bitwig Studio became the top music production suite for all Linux distributions after it supported Flatpak. Once Blackmagic releases DaVinci Resolve as a Flatpak, DaVinci Resolve would become the video production suite of choice for all Linux users.

It's very weird to see a Windows fan advocating against Flatpak in this thread because he prefers Windows to Linux. I don't see how him preferring Windows to Linux makes a difference to this feature request, which would benefit Linux users without affecting him at all.
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Re: could you make a Flatpak for DaVinci Resolve Linux?

PostMon Aug 19, 2024 7:54 pm

keeper wrote:I'd also like to see an officially supported Flatpak for DaVinci Resolve. In the digital audio workstation space, Bitwig Studio became the top music production suite for all Linux distributions after it supported Flatpak. Once Blackmagic releases DaVinci Resolve as a Flatpak, DaVinci Resolve would become the video production suite of choice for all Linux users.

It's very weird to see a Windows fan advocating against Flatpak in this thread because he prefers Windows to Linux. I don't see how him preferring Windows to Linux makes a difference to this feature request, which would benefit Linux users without affecting him at all.


If you are referring to me I am NOT a Windows fan. I am a Software Engineer (my degree was in Operating Systems) with several decades experience. I know the cost of software development. I also understand how with Microsoft and Apple BMD will be on the inside of the developer program. This gives several years advanced information and access to Alpha and Beta versions long before the public get them. That covers 90% of the BMD market. It is a no brainer.

BMD do the same for Linux.Though there is no advanced roadmap from the 100s of asynchronously changing packages that make up a Linus Distro. So Linux is supported by BMD. If you were a serious Video person that is the Linux you would use. It is the one the big studios use, because BMD specifies it for Resolve, because they are video professionals and they don't care which flavour of Linux it is. Only Linux geeks are bothered about that.

There are lots of discussions as to why FlatPak is not a a silver bullet. That is a bit of an entrenched rabbit hole we need not dive down here. The problem is FlatPak supports "the wrong subset" of Linux. So it is no use. If you can get it to support ALL Linux, or even just the "right subset" of Linux (out of the 100's of current distributions) it might work.

However the question remains why should BMD spend a lot of time (money) and effort (money) on 2-4% of the market?
Linux has always been "the next big thing" for 30 odd years but it never happens and it has oscillated between 2 and 5% of the market. Supporting Flatpak diverts away from the other 99% of the market. None of the professionals currently using Linux (the one BMD supports) are going to use a different Linux or FlatPak, there is no point. It is effort for no additional income.

So why would BMD divert their developers to support something ( 2% of the market) that is not going to generate any return? That is the argument. It affects me, and everyone else if it diverts from the normal development.
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Re: could you make a Flatpak for DaVinci Resolve Linux?

PostMon Aug 19, 2024 10:18 pm

Back off Jamedia
This feature request is not for you, so stop gaslighing people.

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We appreciate the input from people who use our software and have suggestions/ideas on how it can be improve your usage. Additionally, offering support for other requests that have been posted already is great feedback as well. That said, lets be supportive of these ideas and avoid criticism of the suggestions here.


Do you realize that having a degree in anything means nothing? You can say or write whatever you want online.

I am a Software Engineer
No you're not. You're just someone who post words online.

I'm an astronaut, by the way.

And by the way, are you aware that there are terrible doctors, architects, and mechanics? Every field has its bottom-of-the-barrel professionals (which only means : people who work for money). Many people don't even practice what they studied.

They were just smart enough to pass some exams, but they're terrible at their jobs... if they even work in their field at all! Some got their degrees 40 years ago and never kept up with technological advancements.

So, your "I am an engineer" statement means nothing especially online. It's even worse for you because someone who is smart, with a "logical" mind (helpful for a software engineer) would realize how foolish it is to say something like that online. It's not even the subject of the conversation.

You can't even code a proper website. Imagine not being able to grasp the basics of HTML.

See, when you spew nonsense online, you're opening yourself up to more scrutiny and criticism.

Everything you've said about Linux is false—just plain misinformation. But that doesn't even matter because, as I mentioned, this feature request isn't for you, okay?!

BMD isn't sitting around waiting for you to decide what they should do or not. Who do you think you are?! If they want to port DaVinci Resolve to a Nintendo Switch, that's their call—they have their own REAL engineers, their own employees.

The purpose of this forum is to share ideas. They listen to what people want and decide for themselves whether it's worth their time or not. If it's useful, interesting, logical... or if it makes sense when we see an faster switch to linux from people all over the world.

Going against the other users like you do is insulting and useless. So if you're not interested in the feature, don't say ANYTHING! Simple as that. Be respectful...

I've seen your "work," your "creative" work. I met people like you 25 years ago—doing everything and anything but mastering nothing. But this was 25 years ago. What I see and read form is like seeing the past. You don't have an open mind, and this thread is showing that.

See, you're just here to put people down. You only care about yourself. It's me, me, me...

There are tons of feature requests I'm not interested in. You don't see me (and 99% of the rest of the users) in these threads gaslighting the audience.

Can we get a mod here tell him to just stop?!

I don't care if I get a warning. I'm not going to let someone like this hijack a thread for a feature request I fully support.

It's unfair to have someone like that be so dishonest and respond this way to people who just want to support this feature.

Yes, I can ignore it... and that's what I've done for a long time. But mods can step in and set him straight too! They can remind him of the basics of the feature request forum! - That would be very nice.

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Re: could you make a Flatpak for DaVinci Resolve Linux?

PostTue Aug 20, 2024 3:00 am

Guys, please let's keep on topic, and let's allow everyone to a little space to present their view without hijacking the core topic. And yes, let's be supportive of ideas when you can, and if you have a clear contribution that explains 'why not' please keep it to the point and concise.
Thank you.

On that note, as one of my colleagues has previously mentioned on the forum in relation to Flatpak

"Flatpak and Snap packaging is OK for simple applications. However, there are technical limitations that get in the way of something as complex as Resolve or Fusion. For example the sandboxing models are problematic when you consider hardware support or remote workflows."
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Re: could you make a Flatpak for DaVinci Resolve Linux?

PostSat Sep 28, 2024 5:54 am

I would also like this feature.

Also of note, I know that the Steam flatpak that I run works perfectly, so I wonder how they manage to run successfully. There are other applications such as Shotcut that run in flatpaks as well, which is another video editor as well. Certainly not to the degree that DR is, but worth noting it runs.

Also, mostly from what I understand is that there shouldn't be a limitation in terms of hardware support, as that is all containerized in terms of libraries that you can use.

A couple of examples:

  • https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Firefox_Hardware_acceleration#Video_decoding
  • Alpaca also uses hardware acceleration (Especially GPU), since it is used as a front-end to ollama for AI language model usage purposes. There are certain flags if you're looking into it through the lens of Flatseal, including the following:
    1. https://imgur.com/61RRYOo
    2. https://imgur.com/g5XmPNc
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