Make the old Pasting Behavior an Option

While many people are happy that In and Out points don't affect pasting anymore, I loved the behavior and made great use of it since you could easily shuffle clips around and trim them according to in and out points on your timeline. It was especially helpful when just setting an outpoint and copying multiple clips adjacent to it. This is no longer possible as it seems and I think it was a great feature to have. I've I wanted to paste to the playhead I'd hit the shortcut for deleting the marked area and just copy then.

Please please please bring it back as an option in the user menu, because you could do so many great thing with it and it really sped up editing by a lot.


edit: The thread where we discussed this originally: viewtopic.php?f=21&t=211553

Whilst adding a "Clear Marks before Paste" User Preference (Default: Enabled) would likely be the easiest solution for the developers (allowing those who want the old behaviour as default to simply turn it off) ... a more flexible solution might be to add a brand new "Paste to Marks" function and/or a "Copy to Source Viewer" function... I'd like both.

copying to source would lose what was original in the source viewer. but I like the idea anyway!

Whilst adding a "Clear Marks before Paste" User Preference (Default: Enabled) would likely be the easiest solution for the developers (allowing those who want the old behaviour as default to simply turn it off) ... a more flexible solution might be to add a brand new "Paste to Marks" function and/or a "Copy to Source Viewer" function... I'd like both.

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Copy to Source Viewer is a nice feature i would also like to see in DR.

+1 to make the old pasting behaviour optional (with a key modifier, preferably).

I don't think it should be an option.

I think it should be the default for everyone.

Paste priority is:
1. In point
2. Playhead.

Get used to it noobs!

Well, considering that the current (new) behaviour actually removes your in/out points before performing the paste, it would have been better to have an option to 'Clear in/out points prior to paste' so that we could have the old behaviour, if desired. Honestly, I could simply OPT+X, CMD+V in the previous version if I wanted to paste at the playhead.

I wouldn't position this as a new user not know to use Resolve - that's not productive. Having optional workflows with thoughtful defaults is a better approach. If most users these days think that a paste should always be at the playhead, then setting the default option to 'Clear in/out points prior to paste' <enabled> would make sense - and the rest of us can change this back to <disabled> for our own purposes.

Having a modifier key to switch between the two options would also be handy but I'd be happy with simply an option in the user edit preferences.

Pasting to the playhead location brings the function in line with how pasting works universally. It's a sensible decision and I welcome it and hopefully see more of the same.

My vote would be to spin off "Paste at In Point" as a separate command for those who miss the old way.

I do agree that pasting should not clear any set in or out points, though. There is no reason to do that.

Paste, according to in/out point would be a great option. I still want to do my 3 point and 4 point pastes.
Calling Editors that worked for more than 20 years noobs, because they utilize 3 point or 4 point editing techniques is super unprofessional in my book.

Pasting to the playhead location brings the function in line with how pasting works universally. It's a sensible decision and I welcome it and hopefully see more of the same.

My vote would be to spin off "Paste at In Point" as a separate command for those who miss the old way.

I do agree that pasting should not clear any set in or out points, though. There is no reason to do that.

I agree!!

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I don't think it should be an option.

I think it should be the default for everyone.

Paste priority is:
1. In point
2. Playhead.

Get used to it noobs!

Jim, that is offensive, if there is a function you want specifically to change, that is a must but if you like it, everyone else has to be in a bandvagon otherwise is a noob?

I will personally refrain to attack and label"noobs" everyone that simply has a different opinion.

My2c

I don't think it should be an option.

I think it should be the default for everyone.

Paste priority is:
1. In point
2. Playhead.

Get used to it noobs!

Jim, that is offensive, if there is a function you want specifically to change, that is a must but if you like it, everyone else has to be in a bandvagon otherwise is a noob?

I will personally refrain to attack and label"noobs" everyone that simply has a different opinion.

My2c

I wager Jim has been watching Daniel Batal videos.

And the party calling out the "noobs" has, by own admission, very limited editing experience, and none at all of narrative editing.

So best be kind to noobs, because who's the "noob"?

A pile-on is unnecessary, folks. The original issue with pasting to in/out points rather than to the playhead is clearly only an issue for new users who haven't done the training. Not a lot different than the surprise with insert or overwrite into a timeline if the user doesn't understand how in/out in the timeline will affect that operation. So this is definitely only an issue for new users (or those who don't use copy-paste much which includes, me, btw). Am I wrong with this assessment?

With 19.1 BMD has changed the pasting behaviour to first clear the in/out points in the timeline followed by a paste to the playhead location. It would seem that for most users posting to this topic that this new behaviour matches their expectations - in a sense, it more closely matches the expectations of someone who is new to Resolve or has little training in this aspect of the product and maybe this is because other NLE's do not consider the in/out points for a paste, I don't know.

The whole point of this thread is that something was lost with this most recent change and the OP would like that functionality restored (as an option). I don't suppose many users will object to the current pasting default behaviour as long as a paste to in/out is optionally available.

A pile-on is unnecessary, folks. The original issue with pasting to in/out points rather than to the playhead is clearly only an issue for new users who haven't done the training. Not a lot different than the surprise with insert or overwrite into a timeline if the user doesn't understand how in/out in the timeline will affect that operation. So this is definitely only an issue for new users (or those who don't use copy-paste much which includes, me, btw). Am I wrong with this assessment?

You're absolutely right! I completed the trainings, and when I read about the new pasting behavior in version 19.1, I was a bit concerned it might disrupt my muscle memory doing pasting operations.

+1 for making this an optional feature in the menus.

The original issue with pasting to in/out points rather than to the playhead is clearly only an issue for new users who haven't done the training.

That's not quite true. There are other NLEs which honor the playhead position over in/outs for paste operation. Either behavior is arguable, but the preference for one or the other is not based on whether anyone has done the "training".

This is a feature request forum, after all, not an advice column.

Agreed. I know the priority but my fingers still often expect the paste to happen at the playhead rather than the in/out which often aren’t even on the screen.

Yes!!! Thank you Blackmagic for implementing my idea sooo quickly! Can't wait to update to 19.1.1!

Also thanks to all the people who supported this issue!

Thanks for listening !!

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YES!!! Thank you Blackmagic.