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Edit Page Spline Scale

PostMon Sep 07, 2020 4:51 pm

With Retime Speed, we can change the scale of the spline graph by clicking and dragging horizontally on the scale percentage.

That ability should be added to all parameters.
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostThu Feb 18, 2021 4:49 pm

I agree that spline graph displays need the capability to display the full range of used values. Some keyframe edits, such as Position and Zoom (in Edit mode) may have values beyond the default display range provided. The ability to adjust such views to include the full range of values would be very helpful.
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostSat Mar 13, 2021 3:39 pm

Version 17 has been officially released, and man what an incredible update!

BMD can't do everything we want in the "next version", so I wanted to bump this idea, which didn't make the cut for 17.
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostSat Mar 13, 2021 5:10 pm

+1 to this
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostWed Apr 07, 2021 4:40 pm

Yes please!


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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostThu Apr 08, 2021 11:08 am

+1 for this
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostFri Apr 09, 2021 1:00 am

this is necessary. The vertical axis must be extended with zoom, and with a scroll bar. I understand that this can mean a complete reprogramming of that part of the Edit page.
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostTue Jun 14, 2022 5:07 am

+1!!

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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostTue Jul 26, 2022 9:18 pm

Version 18 was just released. Not all Feature Requests can be done at once, and this one didn't make the cut.

So here it is for continued voting.
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostWed Sep 14, 2022 4:29 pm

+1 (necessary to be able to sculpt the Bézier curves, for example).
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostWed Sep 14, 2022 6:06 pm

+1 for adding zoom controls....

but (for some of us) perhaps a bigger picture solution would be Just replace the Edit Page 'Curve Editor' with a mini version of the Fusion Page 'Spline' panel, which already has horizontal and vertical zoom controls, zoom to fit, zoom to rectangle and a host of powerful spline modification controls... or perhaps a best of both worlds solution might be to keep the current 'simple controls' design, but augment that with an 'advanced controls' (aka Fusion style) pop out option, similar to the pop out 'Big Curves' window in the Color Page.

Alternatively, I personally wouldn't mind if the Edit Page Transform controls were just a transparent way of applying a special Fusion Page 'Edit Transform' node or some such device - then when folks needed extended/granular control they could switch by whatever means to the Fusion Page to tweak the (Edit Transform node) controls in the Spline panel.
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostThu Sep 15, 2022 8:19 am

+1, make this possible for all scales please!
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostThu Oct 06, 2022 7:40 pm

This is a must have, I'd dare say that this one feature would be the difference between a regular video editor, and a great one.
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostTue Dec 13, 2022 5:04 pm

Version 18.1 was recently released. Not all Feature Requests can be done at once, and this one didn't make the cut.

So here it is for continued voting.
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostWed Mar 08, 2023 4:29 pm

+1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Need this por favor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostThu Mar 09, 2023 12:44 am

That's a great idea.
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostThu Mar 09, 2023 2:50 pm

+1!!!...
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostThu Mar 09, 2023 3:12 pm

+1
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostThu Jul 06, 2023 10:47 am

+1
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostMon Jul 17, 2023 8:23 am

Bah - amazed that this isn't possible. Please make this a priority, Black Magic dev team!
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostSun Aug 13, 2023 9:52 am

Plus 1 !
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostSun Aug 27, 2023 2:34 pm

OMG, jim simon has posted this for couple of years.
Is it so difficult for BMD Dev to bring this important feature exist?
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostThu Aug 31, 2023 8:52 pm

Version 18.5 is officially released. Not all Feature Requests can be done at once, and this one didn't make the cut.

So here it is for continued voting.
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostWed Sep 06, 2023 9:05 pm

good reminder, Jim.

It reminds me of a project with a dancer, which was recorded with one camera. I told her that it was recorded in 4k, and we could do an edit with the original and reframing. That it is not too difficult to do.

So I started editing, used the brilliant automatic reframing feature in Resolve, and it worked nicely. I just had to adjust the automated reframing throughout the performance, moving x and y parameters.

To my astonishment I saw a flat curve in the spline editor. And no vertical zoom option. I would have had to use numerical values. Which is not an option for a clip lasting more than an hour.

I had two options. Spend an unaffordable amount of time with value editing, or transfer the entire project to Premiere Pro or After Effect, which I don't have access to anymore - meaning, I know how easy it is to do this fine-tuning of keyframes.

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I had to quit that project, because I knew it would cost the client ten times more, and suggested to her to consult a professional editor. This other editor wasn't able to do this reframing too, for reasons I don't know.

I could have done this project easily in few hours, if only Resolve had a vertical zoom and enlargement for splines. That left a profound impression in me. I know that DaVinci was primarily a colour grading suite. But DaVinci Resolve has become the leader with such a brilliant design, combining all the tools one need. Even with a Cut and Edit page. Absolutely genius. If it just had a proper keyframe/spline editing window.
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostWed Nov 29, 2023 8:10 pm

Halp, put this in Davinci 19, for pls
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostSun Dec 31, 2023 5:32 pm

+1 too, this is life changer
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostSat Jan 13, 2024 3:12 am

+1. Unable to easily select keyframe to apply "smooth" because the rotation scale is set at 360.

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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostSat May 11, 2024 5:01 pm

+1, this is a no-brainer
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostFri May 17, 2024 11:59 am

+1!

Just come across this - very bizarre omission. Switching to Resolve has been a mixture of pleasure at how intuitive and modern some parts of the program feel and frustration that others are so awful and seemingly have been for years.
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostTue Jun 25, 2024 5:20 am

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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostWed Jul 17, 2024 2:41 am

+1!

But to be pragmatic here, is there anything else we can do other than pile up replies in a thread? Or is this the only way that features get noticed and added?
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostWed Jul 17, 2024 3:38 pm

This is it. Although perhaps if you have a studio license you can also contact support and make this request (pointing here if necessary).
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostThu Jul 18, 2024 1:08 pm

+1
Four years since the original request... hope it comes in the final 19 version...
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostFri Aug 02, 2024 7:35 am

+1
Just looked on the internet on how to do this and amazed it is not possible. Otherwise a really big Blackmagic Fan : ) just a few little things like this need to be fixed.
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostFri Aug 09, 2024 9:01 am

Definitely need this still BUT the behaviour of the ease in stuff is now much better in 19 and doesn't have the same issues as before
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostWed Sep 25, 2024 11:00 pm

+1
Being able to zoom in on the edit page spline editor would make keyframing workflows on the edit page so so so much better. The workaround methods using compound clips, adjustment clips, or fusion, all have their own drawbacks.

The minimum change for the spline editor to be functional would be to allow for zooming in once a specific curve is selected. I agree with the previous post that the best case scenario would be to have access to the spline editor from fusion, since that spline editor is amazing.

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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostThu Sep 26, 2024 10:18 pm

natetallnate wrote:I agree with the previous post that the best case scenario would be to have access to the spline editor from fusion, since that spline editor is amazing.
+1,000,000! The Fusion spline editor isn't perfect, but it is light years ahead of what is on the Edit page. I've long stopped trying to do any sort of keyframing or spline editing on the Edit page, it is terrible.

Having one editor (from Fusion) across all of the pages would provide a consistent user experience for us and it would also be far more efficient for BMD as well. They would only have to make updates to that one editor and the changes would apply everywhere. No need to maintain and update multiple editors that essentially do the same thing. Just scrap what isn't working well and use the one that is.
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostMon Oct 07, 2024 8:49 am

+1 too. Sometimes just to be able to grab the curve handle and adjust it's timing on a retime I have to expand the clip out just to be able to see the handles. I know I can zoom vertically, but not horizontally when it's needed.
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostThu Oct 10, 2024 8:15 am

+1
*Edit: it would be really nice to not only have a scale option but also an autoscale that fits the selected curve to the curve viewer and adjusts in realtime when you changed values to fit again.
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostThu Nov 07, 2024 12:26 pm

+1
The more i advance in Davinci (especially in the Fusion tab), the more i wish there was an app that actually understands what designers need or at least listens to feedback. One day there will be one that fulfills ALL of the bare minimum QOL features.
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostThu Nov 21, 2024 3:01 pm

+10000000

It needs to be done!
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostFri Nov 29, 2024 2:33 am

This Needs to be addressed immediately as a lot of content is requiring speed ramps and in general is a massive pain, having the panel for the spline editor just like the fusion page has in the edit page is a must. right now it verges on unusable. :x
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostWed Dec 04, 2024 12:05 am

+1

It’s a guessing game to position the bezier handles where you want them.
It would be great to be able to create precise pan & zoom animations on the edit page, without having to switch to Fusion.
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostMon Dec 09, 2024 3:48 pm

Dear Blackmagic team, please make the splines finally usable for all the option you could control with them! I know all this stuff could be done inside the fusion, but sometimes you just need something quite simple, but it's either impossible or a real pain to achieve it with the current curves control.
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostMon Mar 31, 2025 4:55 pm

+1

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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostSat Apr 05, 2025 7:03 pm

With the new Keyframe panel in version 20, this request becomes moot. Well done BMD!

I consider this one a done! :D
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Re: Edit Page Spline Scale

PostSun Apr 06, 2025 12:25 am

Yeees!!!! Thank you BMD!!
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