New Pasting Behaviour is a step backwards!

Yes that’s the extra step. It’s also what makes the feature so much less usable than in Avid.

The ideal idea would be to have a "copy/cut to source" option, I think this would give us the most options. Check out the feature suggestion thread I created

The extra step in resolve is to switch back, but I think that one button press is not a big deal, especially if you have set up some macros.

It's not just a matter of an extra step, and it *is* a big deal. I wish folks who had never used this feature would stop explaining why it's unnecessary. Or insisting that macros will do it for you (they won't). Or why their idea is better.

This is one of Avid's cherished features. Maybe there's a reason why?

Avid allows you to look at the source monitor in a timeline view to see all the clips and tracks that are present in the source clip and you can manipulate the contents in that view, modifying the source clip. You can enable/disable clips and tracks within the source timeline and set in/out ranges and then edit it into the record timeline. This is not the same as swap timelines. The source monitor literally has its own separate timeline representation. It makes tweaking the source much easier when the source is actually a complex grouping of clips and tracks. It also lets you zoom in to the source timeline in a way that cannot be done from just the source monitor thus allowing for refined selection of clips and ranges.

So there's that and you need to hold this distinction in mind for the next bit.

In Avid you can select a range of the current record timeline and hit a keyboard shortcut to load that selection into the source monitor as a copy of the clips and tracks that were in the record timeline. You can then switch your source content to its timeline view to modify the specifics of what was loaded into the source side and then edit that content back into record timeline at some other location (optionally between a mark in/out range for either 3-point or 4-point editing). When editing the source into the timeline you can select patching of which source video and audio tracks will be written to which video and audio tracks in the record timeline.

Of course, you can load groups (compounds) and timelines into the source monitor and view those in the source monitor timeline for similar flexibility.

Resolve doesn't really have an equivalent to this. The swap source / timeline feature approaches this functionality but misses some pretty significant features without manual intervention such as using dummy timelines to hold copies of clips, etc. and remembering to switch back to source before editing the content into the intended timeline. I used Avid for many years and got used to having this functionality. I've long since forgotten how useful it was. The new patch tracking feature in Resolve 19.1 is a welcome improvement. I just wish BMD would go the whole way, modelling the behaviour of Media Composer in this regard.

Please correct me if I'm wrong: But I always work with stacked timelines so I can do those aforementioned changes to the source timeline. For me the only real difference is that I don't have to switch back but I see both timelines at all times. Nevertheless, this topic is about the pasting behavior which resolve now doesn't have at all anymore. I'm all in if they make it equal to avid, but simply taking it away is not an improvement for me but a huge step backwards.

You are right that I was taking it off topic a bit - but the way Avid works also supports a magnificent pasting approach. Stacked timelines is a nice feature but in no way a replacement for source timeline view implemented by Avid.

You are right that I was taking it off topic a bit - but the way Avid works also supports a magnificent pasting approach. Stacked timelines is a nice feature but in no way a replacement for source timeline view implemented by Avid.

I invite you to support the feature request I just opened: viewtopic.php?f=33&t=211825

I hated the old method. I'm glad they changed it.

I agree. I like the new one too. Actually 3 point editing also worked with "over write" or "on the top" .

There is now also a strange behavior when “Paste Insert” a clip - it seems to take both into account: the in and out marks as well as the playhead position...

There is now also a strange behavior when “Paste Insert” a clip - it seems to take both into account: the in and out marks as well as the playhead position...

What is 'Paste Insert'? Is this CMD+V while in trim mode? Sorry to be thick.

Paste Insert is it's own function, Steve, available from the Edit menu / keyboard shortcut (Cmd Shift V).

Thanks Andy - I thought maybe it was something I'd never noticed, lol. I'll have to give it a try - maybe even give the manual a read (oh no!) to see how it differs from CMD+V in trim mode.

Well, there's no difference between Cmd V in Selection Mode vs Cmd V in Trim Edit Mode ... so there's that. ;)

Meanwhile, yes, I'm seeing unexpected behaviour with Paste Insert when there are Marks present... it just does a regular Paste at Playhead instead of Paste Insert.

I need a vacation, lol. I could swear that in trim mode the paste would insert vs overwrite. The second time the Mandela Effect has come up today...

The second time the Mandela Effect has come up today...

I know the feeling . But this time yours was correct.

... it just does a regular Paste at Playhead instead of Paste Insert.

Depends on where the playhead is.
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=211946

Yesp, made that observation in your thread.

Woohoo! Thanks Blackmagic!!! They've made the old behavior an option now! Can't wait to update!

Now this is sensation, BM actually listened users

They've made the old behavior an option now!

Has anyone figured out how to engage it?

everyone is happy now

It's such a great new option for editing preferences.

It's such a great new option for editing preferences.

already commented on your last update video. I was the guy who complained they took it away

Ah yes Jade! How cool is it that they listen on here? Great suggestion.

More options, more checkboxes - love this!

It's a little weird that BMD gave us the 'option' to have the options that we've always had.

It's a little weird that BMD gave us the 'option' to have the options that we've always had.

Well, they gave me the option that i didn't had, now we are both happy that BMD listens to their users.

Speaking of things. BMD should implement a preferences export option for the whole Resolve.

Currently there is none, if i happen to reinstall my Resolve/OS or change laptops i'm out of luck, every settings to the whole program are not transferable.

Yes! DVR 19.1.1 new setting: "Prioritize pasting to in and out range".

Thank you BMD peeps!!