ATEM Mini only shows Sony camera image on Input 1

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ATEM Mini only shows Sony camera image on Input 1

PostFri Feb 07, 2025 3:29 am

Hey Everyone.

I am installing a podcast studio for a client and I'm hitting a snag that I and other companies do not have an answer for.

I have 3 Sony A6400 cameras in the studio, those connect to a panel with NUETRIK HDMI 2.0 pass through connectors, those run a very short distance through wall into a second pass through connector, then out the other side into the ATEM.

To make it simpler, the flow is this... Camera >> HDMI cable >> wall connector >> through the wall with a 2 foot HDMI cable >> wall connector #2 >> HDMI cable into ATEM Mini.

The cameras are running at 30fps/ 1080p.

I'm using Hi speed, 4k UHD cable.


My issue is I'm only getting an image on Input 1 of the ATEM mini. Inputs 2,3 and 4 show nothing.

What I've found.....

* If I remove ONE HDMI pass through connector (there are a total of two being used. One on each side of the wall) Everything works PERFECTLY.

* It doesn't matter which side I remove the connector from, as long as there's only one in the equation, everything works... which rules out a bad connector

* I tried a Panasonic LUMIX camera and everything works perfectly with BOTH pass through connectors in use.

* Cable length doesn't seem to be the issue because in total, its only about 10 feet worth of cabling.


So in conclusion... I can't determine if this is an ATEM issue, a setting on the SONY, the SONYs don't like the extra connectors but the Panasonics do.

I'm at a loss and it's impossible to get in touch with a person at Sony tech support.

Any help here would be incredibly appreciated.

Thank You!!
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Re: ATEM Mini only shows Sony camera image on Input 1

PostSat Feb 08, 2025 10:32 am

Seems signal of Sony are powerfully than Panasonic. Ever connected cameras directly to mixer, but I know there are some active connector with signal amplifier, seems you need of this kind of connectors


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Re: ATEM Mini only shows Sony camera image on Input 1

PostSat Feb 08, 2025 12:28 pm

UPDATE:

I tried an active repeater in the middle of the chain and this solved my issues. Im shocked Sonys output would be this weak.
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Re: ATEM Mini only shows Sony camera image on Input 1

PostSun Feb 09, 2025 9:27 am

On 4 input Atem Minis HDMI 1 is different in capability to HDMIs 2-4. HDMI 1 will accept an RGB or 4:2:2 YCbCr input, HDMIs 2-4 are 4:2:2 YCbCr (aka YUV) only.

On the 8 input models HDMI 1 and 2 are RGB capable, HDMIs 3-8 are 4:2:2 YCbCr only.

(NB YCbCr 4:2:2 is also what SDI uses)

Could it be the Sony is outputting RGB rather than 4:2:2 YCbCr via HDMI? (Is there an HDMI output setting option anywhere in the Sony?)

There are other differences between the two types of HDMI inputs - so it could be something else.

If you need to convert between RGB and 4:2:2 YCbCr HDMI then Decimator MD-LXs can be configured to do that in HDMI in, HDMI out mode. (I don't think BMD's equivalent has that functionality - at least I don't think I've seen it as a config option?)
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Re: ATEM Mini only shows Sony camera image on Input 1

PostSun Feb 09, 2025 1:43 pm

Search “Sony a6400” on the forum and a history of Atem Mini/a6400 incompatibility will be revealed. In one thread the poster had some success changing the output from auto to 1080p.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=132707

Pass thru plates may not have the aesthetic you’re going for but the signal will pass. The alternative is auditing different cable/bulkhead configurations.

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Re: ATEM Mini only shows Sony camera image on Input 1

PostSun Feb 09, 2025 2:44 pm

Update:

Sonys output may be incredibly weak compared to the Panasonic cameras. With the use of a repeater, the Sonys work just fine with all pass through connectors.

Thanks for all the info!
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Re: ATEM Mini only shows Sony camera image on Input 1

PostTue Feb 11, 2025 9:34 am

mattwebermusic wrote:Update:

Sonys output may be incredibly weak compared to the Panasonic cameras. With the use of a repeater, the Sonys work just fine with all pass through connectors.

Thanks for all the info!

Happy that you have solve it. :-D

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