Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 7:05 pm

It's 6 am in Melbourne. another 2 hours should do before I get "CRAZY"
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 7:12 pm

Joerg Plechinger wrote:
rick.lang wrote:
jevon99 wrote: ... Older anamorphics are almost always 2x, hence the great desire to use 4:3 aspect ratio on the sensor. SLR Magic plans to make a 1.35x (or 1.33x) anamorphic designed to be used on 16:9 HD sensors like the BMCC ...


Sorry, not really ...
Even "older Anamorphics" are available with different squeeze-factors i.e. 1,33x, 1.5x, 1,75x and 2x.
1,33 Anamorphics were made by Panasonic (AG LA 7200), Century Optics, Isco Göttingen (MC2000 a.o.) and a few others.
I'll recommend the Panasonic Adapter (I own it too), since it fits perfectly on modern lenses (screw diameter 77/72 mm.


You're right Joerg! I had the 2x anamorphic lenses on my mind from a previous article... Sorry about that.

As for being off topic, apologies for that too but I was trying to correct a post that seemed inaccurate to me. I'm watching for news as often as most people here beginning just after 4 am PST... But nothing so far and it's 2 pm EST! I want you all to be happy and I can continue to budget for the camera and the accessories this year.

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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 7:14 pm

Lighten up Rick...I was only teasing. We're all w8ing...
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 7:20 pm

it's nearly Saturday here :D
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 7:23 pm

May I be the first to point out that it's been "a few hours"? :D

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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 7:29 pm

Really Grant? REALLY?
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 7:29 pm

mhood wrote:May I be the first to point out that it's been "a few hours"? :D


Wonder if Christine is planning to have a long day or will she get home well before midnight!

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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 7:30 pm

There was an episode of 'My Three Sons' where Fred MacMurray's character got into a long discussion about the meaning of the word "few"

Turns out, it can apparently mean "a relatively large amount"... at least if television shows from the '60s are to be believed.
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 7:38 pm

I guess Grant writes the update after his saturday morning coffee :)
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 7:44 pm

rick.lang wrote:jevon99 wrote:
4:3 feature request is so you can use anamorphic lenses without cropping..
Anamorphic lenses squeeze the image by a factor of two, thus projecting a 1.195:1 aspect ratio image onto the sensor. When using sensors that are natively 16:9 or even wider, it is necessary to crop the sides, resulting in a much smaller used sensor area and a different angle of view for the lens.



That's not my understanding or how I'd explain it. The anamorphic lens or adapter has a front element or group that acts like a wide angle lens in the horizontal plane, but a normal lens in the vertical plane. So it squeezes the image horizontally giving for example twice the horizontal field of view but a normal vertical field of view. You can use a projector with an anamorphic lens that reverses the effect so on the cinema screen you see a much wider field of view than normally. Or you can expand the squeeze digitally in Resolve or your NLE so your rendered video has the wider field.

If you put a 2x anamorphic on a 4:3 sensor, you end up with a 2.66:1 aspect ratio. If you want to render out to a 2.39:1 widescreen format, yes, you would crop the sides. If you have a 16:9 sensor and a 1.35x anamorphic, then it will expand to a 2.4:1 aspect ratio. Older anamorphics are almost always 2x, hence the great desire to use 4:3 aspect ratio on the sensor. SLR Magic plans to make a 1.35x (or 1.33x) anamorphic designed to be used on 16:9 HD sensors like the BMCC.
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I quite literally copied and pasted my paragraph explaining it from the Arri Alexa brochure. I'll let you tell them they're wrong then :) lol
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 8:03 pm

It's 7am Saturday morning in Sydney. I just woke up. What did I miss??

Oh anamorphics... That it??

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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 8:04 pm

Leslie Nielsen has a message for Grant and Christine...



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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 8:27 pm

By now I should have enough information to know whether I am getting a camera or a full refund.....

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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 8:35 pm

Jarrett Craig wrote:By now I should have enough information to know whether I am getting a camera or a full refund.....

Standing by

Yup, you have the information that this company and grant does not care AT ALL about his name his reputation or his customers. Such a shame. I had high hopes for this company.
Time for everyone to get a full refund.

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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 8:36 pm

7:30am australia... in about an hour .."they're coming to take me away.....
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 8:40 pm

Not promising anything is better than not fulfilling the promise...
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 8:42 pm

Technically, there is 9:20 left to fulfill the promise. Sorry, I forgot about Pacific Time in the US. 11:15 left if they take until the last moment to honor their commitment.
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 8:42 pm

More than 100 people and 2 bots watching this forum right now... So u ave our fully atention, c'mon, dont be shy
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 8:45 pm

really they need all this show for a simple update??? I think everybody will get a super refound!!!

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PostFri Dec 14, 2012 8:52 pm

Jesuan wrote:I think everybody will get a super refound!!!

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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 8:53 pm

maybe what Mayans predicted was the update of the BMCC.
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 8:53 pm

Tomorrow morning i want my coffee, my Fringe episode and my BMC Camera update.

Dont ruin my day.
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 8:54 pm

Maybe the update will be posted at 11:59pm EST
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 8:57 pm

Im getting a BMCC

BMD is doing what needs to be done to produce a camera with up to date technology for component price plus a suitable markup. I fully agree with BMD, that what the camera industry regards as high end technology can be available at consumer prices, as the mass-market computer industry has reached digital cinema camera level.

BMD has the vision, I want the camera, and Im certainly not getting an avchd compressed 8bit as a replacement.
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 8:58 pm

John Palaganas wrote:Maybe the update will be posted at 11:59pm EST


Probably 11:59 PST (unless Grant forgets again).
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 9:01 pm

Why not HST ;)
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 9:03 pm

John Palaganas wrote:Maybe the update will be posted at 11:59pm EST

did not work!
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 9:04 pm

Gaishnic wrote:
John Palaganas wrote:Maybe the update will be posted at 11:59pm EST

did not work!

Still 4:04 PM EST here
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 9:05 pm

Albert N. Romero wrote:Tomorrow morning i want my coffee, my Fringe episode and my BMC Camera update.

Dont ruin my day.


+1 on Fringe and the update. (I don't like coffee ;))
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 9:07 pm

Espen Munthe wrote:Im getting a BMCC

BMD is doing what needs to be done to produce a camera with up to date technology for component price plus a suitable markup. I fully agree with BMD, that what the camera industry regards as high end technology can be available at consumer prices, as the mass-market computer industry has reached digital cinema camera level.

BMD has the vision, I want the camera, and Im certainly not getting an avchd compressed 8bit as a replacement.


Well, I'm getting a 2/3" Scarlet fixed for $3,000.

We'd all buy the camera if we could buy the camera. That's why we're waiting here for word while Grant sleeps or whatever it is he's doing over the last five hours that prevent an announcement from being made.

I applaud BMD's vision, as well, but it's useless without the ability to back it up with actual, shipping products.
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 9:13 pm

Just remember, we're not waiting in this forum for the update to appear here. It will have its own slot.
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PostFri Dec 14, 2012 9:32 pm

I've never seen so many people signed onto this forum before. Looks like everyone's hungry for this update.
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 9:46 pm

let's do this. whattup?
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 9:47 pm

PaulDelVecchio wrote:I've never seen so many people signed onto this forum before. Looks like everyone's hungry for this update.


I bet quite a few reseller representatives are watching as well.
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 9:49 pm

Ok... That's it I've called the paddy wagon to take me to the funny farm!!!!
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 10:04 pm

4pm Central US time....I'm losing faith again.
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 10:07 pm

I believe the concession speech or swan song is being written as we speak.
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 10:10 pm

thejasonbee wrote:4pm Central US time....I'm losing faith again.


...and 5PM EST :roll:

However, BMD's US headquarters are in Fremont, California, where it's 2PM (PST). Let's hope something's going to happen soon.
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PostFri Dec 14, 2012 10:27 pm

bartman wrote:This is crap

And what we are doing here is crap


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PostFri Dec 14, 2012 10:30 pm

bartman wrote:This is crap

And what we are doing here is crap


totally agree....

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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 10:56 pm

With all do respect to Camera whining. We just had a national tragedy here in the US. People's attention are being paid to a slightly more important issue. This may be a reason for the delay. Prayers to all the parents and children involved.
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 10:58 pm

so i guess , this promised update is not going to happen today (big question mark ) :cry: ?
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 11:01 pm

I have been told to hang in there...an update is coming today.
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PostFri Dec 14, 2012 11:03 pm

mhood wrote:I have been told to hang in there...an update is coming today.


I am guessing it will be posted within the next 2 hours, between 3PM and 5PM PST (end of business day in California, US).
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 11:05 pm

I told Christine the update will be delayed, and she told me i was wrong....



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PostFri Dec 14, 2012 11:13 pm

Guys, it's Friday night. Relax. Go out with your woman/man. If you don't have one, go out and meet one.... or at least go out with your buddies... and while you're on your date, I'm sure you've signed up for the mailing list, so keep your smart phone on you and when you hear that alert go off in the middle of dinner with your beautiful date (whether it be your wife, girlfriend, new lady-friend, or new man), excuse yourself from the table and go to the bathroom (because you don't want to be rude), and check to see if it's your buddies asking how the date is going, or if it's Grant Petty telling you that your camera is on it's way. Just keep in mind that if it's bad news about the camera, don't let it show on your face because when you get back to the table, the conversation will go..

"What's wrong?"
"Oh... nothing..."
"Do you not like the food?"
"Oh no it's good... it's just... well... honey.... you see... I've been waiting on this camera... and they CEO of the company just said it's going to be delayed a bit more and.... "

And as she looks at you with that "WTF is wrong with this guy" look on her face, you start to realize (or maybe you don't) that this camera is such a small part of this thing we call life.

"Wait... honey... where are you going? Don't leave! I need someone to hold me and tell me everything is going to be okay! I need my camera! Please! Come back!"

And as everyone at the restaurant stares at you, silently thinking "loser," your iPhone alert goes off one more time... it's Grant Petty and he says, "Just kidding. The shipments leave the warehouse tomorrow."

And you go home happy, forget about the girl, check the forum once more just in case someone says something you don't like, turn on the TV with a huge smile on your face, as your script (which so desperately needs to be finished and rewritten) sits on your hard drive not accessed for 3 months. You fall asleep on the couch (alone) with another episode of Fringe playing in the background.

2 weeks pass, you're still single, but you finally get your camera, and immediately think to yourself, "Damn... what do I shoot now?" And the horrifying image of your unfinished script appears in your head as you think, "Should've finished it..."

You look around, wondering what you can shoot to test the DOF of a less than Micro 4/3" but bigger than Super 16mm sensor... and a light bulb goes off in your head...

In a moment of sheer (supposed) genius, the following words inexplicably leave your mouth...

"Here, kitty kitty kitty!"

20 minutes later, there you sit in front of your new Davinci Resolve system, and a thought from days past crosses your mind for a split second... "Should I call that girl I went on that date with a few weeks ago?" But, after taking a huge swig from your bottle of Mountain Dew, you suddenly get distracted by the image on your monitor as you think, "Damn my cat looks good shot in 2.5K RAW."
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PostFri Dec 14, 2012 11:16 pm

Jesuan wrote:I told Christine the update will be delayed, and she told me i was wrong....



Jesus


Hahahah gold!
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PostFri Dec 14, 2012 11:17 pm

This is why I like you, Paul.


But my script is finished and ready. :lol:
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Re: Camera Shipping Mini Update: 12/7

PostFri Dec 14, 2012 11:18 pm

Too cool Paul! I'm going to grab my precious Granddaughter and go out for some sushi. When I get home, either the update will be here or it won't. Life will march on. :D
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PostFri Dec 14, 2012 11:18 pm

Mountain Dew? The way these guys are stressing sounds like they need Moonshine!
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