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sicovanderplas

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Europe shipments

PostThu Dec 20, 2012 7:01 pm

Dear members,

I'm wondering, did anyone get any camera's in the Europe region?
In the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxemburg there have been 0 camera's delivered, and ETA is end of January, and i've checked all the official resellers, and non officials; which i find really disturbing since the US is getting shippings since November..

Also some Official retailers cancelled their preorders to BMD. (Belgium)

Are there any members here in Europe that did get shipments or are awaiting them?
UK received some shipments but other countries.

Why are there no shippings going to the others side (Europe)?
And we want to switch to MFT, but realisiticly this will mean that the camera will be here in July 2013...

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Re: Europe shipments

PostThu Dec 20, 2012 7:12 pm

Hi.
I was told a FEBRUARY delivery by my Norwegian reseller. They had a mail from Black Magic dated 18th Desember 2012. That was 4 days after the last Grant update, so I guess february it is in Norway :(
They also told me that Black Magics goal was to finish all preorders early summer 2013. If that was both EF and MFT, I don`t know.

Cheers :D
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Re: Europe shipments

PostThu Dec 20, 2012 9:13 pm

Talked to my two resellers.. Same here in Germany.. no BMC arrived here.. (Just some for testing - Frank Glencairn, S. Wiegärtner , Andrew Reid) so frustrating..
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Re: Europe shipments

PostThu Dec 20, 2012 9:35 pm

steisimo wrote:Hi.
I was told a FEBRUARY delivery by my Norwegian reseller. They had a mail from Black Magic dated 18th Desember 2012. That was 4 days after the last Grant update, so I guess february it is in Norway :(
They also told me that Black Magics goal was to finish all preorders early summer 2013. If that was both EF and MFT, I don`t know.

Cheers :D


When did you order?
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Re: Europe shipments

PostThu Dec 20, 2012 10:06 pm

In the US people are more and more getting camera's...
And in Europe there are only some 'celeb' bloggers.

What's going on? or just 'its only europe, who cares'?
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Re: Europe shipments

PostThu Dec 20, 2012 10:49 pm

Christian Schmeer wrote:
steisimo wrote:Hi.
I was told a FEBRUARY delivery by my Norwegian reseller. They had a mail from Black Magic dated 18th Desember 2012. That was 4 days after the last Grant update, so I guess february it is in Norway :(
They also told me that Black Magics goal was to finish all preorders early summer 2013. If that was both EF and MFT, I don`t know.

Cheers :D


When did you order?


Hi Christian.
I ordered 19.th of april, I think ;)

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Re: Europe shipments

PostThu Dec 20, 2012 11:08 pm

I pre-ordered yesterday at Wendys broadcast and was told to expect it late january.
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Re: Europe shipments

PostFri Dec 21, 2012 6:26 am

I ordered in late august and no camera yet here in Estonia.

I really hope to get mine latest on january but have to talk to my supplier here.
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Re: Europe shipments

PostFri Dec 21, 2012 9:39 am

I'm in the UK. I ordered on 20 April.

I emailed all the dealers the day the camera was announce and the first one who could take my order was ProAV.

My camera arrived with them yesterday.

There have not been that many shipped so I'm sure we will start seeing them appear across the rest of Europe soon.
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PostFri Dec 21, 2012 10:22 am

Hello,
My German distributor (Marcotec) don´t know any details when the cameras will be delivered to Germany. It´s very curious but even the general distributor in Germany doesn´t know anything.
They get no dealer information from Blackmagic.

Thanks Blackmagic to talk to your dealer...
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Re: Europe shipments

PostFri Dec 21, 2012 12:44 pm

alexvideo23 wrote:Hello,
My German distributor (Marcotec) don´t know any details when the cameras will be delivered to Germany. It´s very curious but even the general distributor in Germany doesn´t know anything.
They get no dealer information from Blackmagic.

Thanks Blackmagic to talk to your dealer...


+1

Excactly the same here: I ordered in Germany at http://www.steller-online.de/ and http://cinestoxx.com/ . Would be nice if BMD at least talks to the general distributor of Germany. Hopefully the cameras are here in January.
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Re: Europe shipments

PostFri Dec 21, 2012 2:10 pm

the same answer from TELTEC -
MIDDLEEASTMAMBO
PRODUCTION & STUDIOS
Petersburger Str. 73
10249 Berlin

info@middleeastmambo.com

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Re: Europe shipments

PostFri Dec 21, 2012 8:57 pm

Ordered in Finland last day of September.

The dealer (Hedcom) has sent e-mail on the situation Oct 8th, Nov 9th and Dec 18th, and has mostly posted information that has been found in the official updates in this forum + the link to relevant update. I appreciate that, probably they don't have any other info themselves.

Just hoping BMD will treat all the areas equally - and send cameras in relation to amounts and dates ordered. Still dont expect my own right away, as I ordered only in September... Projects are rolling all the time, though, and would really hope to get it soon...
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Re: Europe shipments

PostFri Dec 21, 2012 9:28 pm

There is one for sure in warsaw/ Poland (dont know where the company got it though since they havnt replied to my mail). And i think there is one in slovakia. Also maybe sweden or Norway but not 100%

I ordered in July from the polish reseller, and still waiting :<
Compendium Productions

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BMCC EF Warsaw/Lodz

Cinematographer
Mikolaj Kepinski
cell: Poland +48 691-724-210
Norway +47 400-45-046

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Re: Europe shipments

PostFri Dec 21, 2012 9:41 pm

Hi
I'm in Denmark and here is no news, I don't think there is a single camera here.
I ordered mine the 8. of may and the dealer don't know when it will arrive.
I can just sit here with my Tokina 11-16 mm lens and my new Sandisk SSD 480 gb HD and wait !

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Re: Europe shipments

PostSat Dec 22, 2012 9:29 am

Just mailed my dealer about this!

Hoping to see a camera in January :)
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PostSat Dec 22, 2012 9:40 am

My dealer said also that no news today.
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Re: Europe shipments

PostSat Dec 22, 2012 2:51 pm

No news in Sweden either.
Have ordered 2 cameras from 2 seperate dealers, no indication of any kind of movement.
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Re: Europe shipments

PostSun Dec 23, 2012 7:37 am

My reseller told me a few times that the distrib. in germany never knows anything.
Forget to get the camera before Silvester, for sure they are going to make hollidays from 24(or 21...) to 2 Jan.
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Re: Europe shipments

PostSun Dec 23, 2012 5:33 pm

AndiDieMaus wrote:
alexvideo23 wrote:Hello,
My German distributor (Marcotec) don´t know any details when the cameras will be delivered to Germany. It´s very curious but even the general distributor in Germany doesn´t know anything.
They get no dealer information from Blackmagic.

Thanks Blackmagic to talk to your dealer...


+1

Excactly the same here: I ordered in Germany at http://www.steller-online.de/ and http://cinestoxx.com/ . Would be nice if BMD at least talks to the general distributor of Germany. Hopefully the cameras are here in January.


+1 to

I ordered form Marcotec in May 11, and i guess in EU, many BMCCs ordered from Marcotec. I dont know and i am wondering how placement setting up by Black Magic Team. In a order of date or region?
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Re: Europe shipments

PostSun Dec 23, 2012 9:26 pm

Most people who have received their orders so far ordered in April.

You may find that many EU dealers were slow to get their orders into Blackmagic.

I contacted 4 UK dealers the day the camera was announced and none of them could take my order as they had no info from the distributer. It was only the next day that the dealers got back to me. So they would have place their orders pretty early.

If you ordered in May the chances are you'll get your camera in January as the cameras seem to be shipping at a constant rate now.
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Re: Europe shipments

PostSun Dec 23, 2012 9:30 pm

AndiDieMaus wrote:Talked to my two resellers.. Same here in Germany.. no BMC arrived here.. (Just some for testing - Frank Glencairn, S. Wiegärtner , Andrew Reid) so frustrating..


Andrew Reid's camera was not a testing camera. It was the first customer order shipped by CVP in the UK. Andrew ordered his early on just as I did and was first on CVPs list.
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Re: Europe shipments

PostThu Jan 03, 2013 11:14 am

Its been two weeks .. are there any news from german or europeean distributors?
Anybody heard anything? :?:
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Re: Europe shipments

PostThu Jan 03, 2013 11:30 am

nothing yet. only the us seems to be lucky atm
Compendium Productions

Camera:
BMCC EF Warsaw/Lodz

Cinematographer
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cell: Poland +48 691-724-210
Norway +47 400-45-046

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PostThu Jan 03, 2013 11:44 am

"I hope people start to see more cameras shipping, but it might be a good idea if I post another update early January to update everyone on how production is progressing. "

Grant / 14 dec 2012.


What's new in Europe?
Early in January...Always No camera and No news!!!!!!!

Thanks...
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Re: Europe shipments

PostThu Jan 03, 2013 1:22 pm

Pls update Grant! Hearing that bhphoto getting some orders..
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PostThu Jan 03, 2013 1:25 pm

there is another post about europe where Christine (am 28th dec) said that they just shipped cameras to europe
(dont know how many)
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PostThu Jan 03, 2013 2:51 pm

It's the 3rd. Most businesses have only been back in the office for a day... Give them a chance.

Cameras need to clear customs and get to the distributor who then needs to allocate them to dealers.

They are on the way. Go have a coffee.
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PostThu Jan 03, 2013 3:55 pm

¨We talked to the German Distributor yesterday but they have no idea when the cameras will arrive in Europe. Blackmagi is starting the main production now but
Its nearly impossible to get any official news from them directly.

Sorry for the bad news. ¨

Danny from Marcotec
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PostThu Jan 03, 2013 5:15 pm

Thanks for the information.. would be kind if you post something if you know more!
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PostFri Jan 04, 2013 12:03 am

Thanks Danny,

As you may know Christine said:
"Cameras are being steadily shipped out. Our official update won't be "late" for a while yet."
I hope you'll receive your 10 first cameras very soon^^
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Re: Europe shipments

PostFri Jan 04, 2013 6:08 pm

CVP recieved 2 camera's that got shipped.
Compendium Productions

Camera:
BMCC EF Warsaw/Lodz

Cinematographer
Mikolaj Kepinski
cell: Poland +48 691-724-210
Norway +47 400-45-046

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Re: Europe shipments

PostSun Jan 06, 2013 4:05 pm

Mikolaj Kepinski wrote:CVP recieved 2 camera's that got shipped.


wow :)
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Re: Europe shipments

PostSun Jan 06, 2013 4:58 pm

It's not very encouraging when you imagine that BMD can make 500 cameras a month to fulfill 10,000 preorders in the worldwide queue...20 months to go. I would feel MUCH better if BMD would grace us with some better figures instead of ambiguous grey-speak like "mass production" and "full capacity". It's also not very encouraging knowing that they won't.

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Re: Europe shipments

PostSun Jan 06, 2013 5:56 pm

Now that the holidays are over... I guessing BMC should start seeing shipments of sensors in full production numbers.. I'm optimistic we'll start seeing more and more cameras getting into the loving arms of those that have pre-ordered. :mrgreen:
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Re: Europe shipments

PostSun Jan 06, 2013 8:20 pm

Black Magic Design is soon reaching a critical phase where potential and real customers may desert en masse this BMCC never to come back, even if the camera becomes available after some time. The "grey speak" used in the official communication of the Company, is in my opinion, damaging its reputation. As pointed in several posts earlier, the evasive rhetoric produced, is totally counter productive. It may have been acceptable once, but not repeatedly.
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Re: Europe shipments

PostSun Jan 06, 2013 9:07 pm

danap wrote:Black Magic Design is soon reaching a critical phase where potential and real customers may desert en masse this BMCC never to come back, even if the camera becomes available after some time. The "grey speak" used in the official communication of the Company, is in my opinion, damaging its reputation. As pointed in several posts earlier, the evasive rhetoric produced, is totally counter productive. It may have been acceptable once, but not repeatedly.


+1

They should have spoken about "sensor-problem" earlier!
And inform customers more often as possible!
Not just an update by month since october 2012!
We are more than "early on january" (7 of january).
One more empty promise!

We should wait for NAB 2013 with real annonce from others!
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Re: Europe shipments

PostSun Jan 06, 2013 10:08 pm

alexvideo23 wrote:We should wait for NAB 2013 with real annonce from others!


+1
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Re: Europe shipments

PostMon Jan 07, 2013 2:07 am

BMC, strategically speaking, must have a good number of units shipped prior to NAB because other companies may well have a similar camera ready for the world, but with enhanced features, i.e., full frame sensor, overcrank, etc. They need to get the money and market share while there's still an opportunity. I guarantee the competition is not sitting still. This competitive incentive works in most everyone's favor.

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