Camera Shipping Update: 2/8

No I haven't, because I have never come across a lens that I couldn't adapt to my 7D. This is why I am asking. I have a camera bag full of lens' with a plethora of mounts. Nikkor, olympus, monolta, zeiss, and my anamorphics. And I have seen many adaptders on the market for ef to pl. So you say you can adapt any lens to mft....I can do the exact same on ef.
Now with the RECENT introduction of the speedbooster, now there is something that truly sets them apart. And as far as I know they wont be able to make a speedbooster for the ef because if flange distance.


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You can only use certain Cinema Glass with EF to PL mounts, and it tends to be the glass that noone really wants to use. Some PL lenses have modified mounts, but very very few of the best cinema lenses can be used on an EF camera.

If I'm going to shoot with Cinema glass, I'm going to pick up Cooke's, Ultra Primes, Master Primes, HR Zooms, an Optimo, etc. None of those work on an EF to PL which is why modified 5Ds exist. You need the MFT mount to make that application work.

I also am unaware of any 0.95s that fit an EF mount.

As glass is just about second in line to sensor quality, those two points are why a lot of us feel the MFT mount is dreamy. But the EF mount is great to have around as well.

None of that matters.

Look, send out the MFT in limited numbers just like the trickle down EF policy of 2012. At this point, it doesn't hurt anyone. When the US gets EF numbers, people complain; when Europe gets EF numbers, people complain, but they are getting EF numbers. My complaint is NO ONE is getting any MFT numbers and this update was about effectively extending the delay of the MFT for no other reason but coddling and mollifying people who will just turn around a complain again about something else.

Plus, no one has been waiting a year or almost a year for anything.

We have all been waiting since July. July was the projected release date. We have been expecting since April and waiting since July.

If they are gonna push back the MFT 6 months to match the EF, fine, tell me that and I won't expect anything from these updates, but that would be a huge mistake because a good number of MFT orders are EF converts and they will have been waiting a year.

.... because a good number of MFT orders are EF converts and they will have been waiting a year.

Totally agree, MTF converts (many of us who placed the first bids) were told there would be no penalty to switch. Now we are loosing out.

HEJ BLACKMAGIC!
GET THOS MTF´s MOVING!

The sad truth is that nobody knows anything here. John Brawley talks about camera engineering and he is not a camera engineer, naturally BMD will not tell anybody the numbers produced or shipped so nobody will know that so stop asking. If the MFT aren't ready yet and you really want the camera just wait or buy a GH3. We ordered our camera months ago when the delays where apparent. No sweat. While it gets here we just soldier along with 7Ds, 5Ds, or Alexas. When it gets here, maybe it will be NAB time, and if some new cool stuff appears we will sell our BMCC on ebay for 1500. RELAX. it is just a camera. It isn't really going to change the quality of your product that much, because right now, RAW, no RAW, 4K, 2K or HD camera image quality has kinda plateaued and we still present stuff on 2K cinema screens, and HD, or even SD on TV with rushes that will have to be heavily processed.

That the camera is late is not the end of the world by any means, and even when we get ours, we will still be using other cameras alongside, or instead of, it. I am sorry for repeating something many have said before but it is just a tool. If the tool that really counts (your brain) does not work harder than your camera then BMD could next year announce the BMCC mark II with 25 stops of dynamic range at 8K and it would still be a useless metal and plastic box.

If the MFT aren't ready yet and you really want the camera just wait or buy a GH3.

Already buying one, but not the point.

We ordered our camera months ago when the delays where apparent. No sweat.

No, some of us ordered our cameras when there were no delays and we remained faithful through the crap, so "no sweat," hardly.

It isn't really going to change the quality of your product that much, because right now, RAW, no RAW, 4K, 2K or HD camera image quality has kinda plateaued and we still present stuff on 2K cinema screens, and HD, or even SD on TV with rushes that will have to be heavily processed.

I think the point of the camera is that it WILL change the quality of our products. I think that's why they "build" it and why we are trying to buy it. Why would we be hollering so loud about something that won't increase the quality of our products? Now granted, it won't make our products any better, garbage in/garbage out, but it will certainly make that garbage look better.

That the camera is late is not the end of the world by any means, and even when we get ours, we will still be using other cameras alongside, or instead of, it. I am sorry for repeating something many have said before but it is just a tool. If the tool that really counts (your brain) does not work harder than your camera then BMD could next year announce the BMCC mark II with 25 stops of dynamic range at 8K and it would still be a useless metal and plastic box.

Yeah, but I don't have to wait another 4 or 5 months for my brain to arrive. Most of us signed on the work with cutting edge technology and will find ourselves with a post NAB Johnny Come Lately box even the Digital Bolex is starting to out class connection wise (I don't give two sh*ts about thunderbolt). I'm not cancelling my order, and no body can convince or berate me to, but I will not allow any more excuses or platitudes to go unchallenged. Information is fine. Anything else...

I still don't see the logic in waiting until more EF orders are fulfilled before shipping the MFT version. Why not just ship them out now?

The truth is they have not even started mass producing the mft version.
By shipping he means building then shipping.
Id love for bmd to replace their ceo, im tired and annoyed by Grants "updates".

As for those who are acting like mediators between frustrated people waiting for the camera, and the company, go find something productive to do. It serves zero purpose to tell people to be patient. Also, I'm sure there is a careers section and if blackmagic wants someone to speak for them, they'd hire you to do it.

Well it's nice to know that there are cameras going out.

I ordered on Feb 6th so I'm probably bottom of the barrel but I can't wait to get it!

I wish there wasn't such a bottleneck though, there would be more happy replies to the update. lol

If the MFT aren't ready yet and you really want the camera just wait or buy a GH3.

Already buying one, but not the point.

We ordered our camera months ago when the delays where apparent. No sweat.

No, some of us ordered our cameras when there were no delays and we remained faithful through the crap, so "no sweat," hardly.

It isn't really going to change the quality of your product that much, because right now, RAW, no RAW, 4K, 2K or HD camera image quality has kinda plateaued and we still present stuff on 2K cinema screens, and HD, or even SD on TV with rushes that will have to be heavily processed.

I think the point of the camera is that it WILL change the quality of our products. I think that's why they "build" it and why we are trying to buy it. Why would we be hollering so loud about something that won't increase the quality of our products? Now granted, it won't make our products any better, garbage in/garbage out, but it will certainly make that garbage look better.

That the camera is late is not the end of the world by any means, and even when we get ours, we will still be using other cameras alongside, or instead of, it. I am sorry for repeating something many have said before but it is just a tool. If the tool that really counts (your brain) does not work harder than your camera then BMD could next year announce the BMCC mark II with 25 stops of dynamic range at 8K and it would still be a useless metal and plastic box.

Yeah, but I don't have to wait another 4 or 5 months for my brain to arrive. Most of us signed on the work with cutting edge technology and will find ourselves with a post NAB Johnny Come Lately box even the Digital Bolex is starting to out class connection wise (I don't give two sh*ts about thunderbolt). I'm not cancelling my order, and no body can convince or berate me to, but I will not allow any more excuses or platitudes to go unchallenged. Information is fine. Anything else...

a Xanax for Melvin please. It's just a camera.

Dear Grant/BMD,

At the very least could you provide (without going into numeric details) at least when backorder/preorders will be fulfilled?

This well certainly help some of us schedule accordingly.

Just as basic "With the current number of preorders, and with projected output in the following months, we expect the back order to be mostly done by X-DATE" sort of deal.

This will help tremendously, especially for us MFT folk.

Thanks a ton!

Agreed with the others. If you have MFT bodies and sensors in house, build them and ship them regardless of who gets what first. At this point it's been painfully long for it to matter. Whatever comes first build it and ship it. That's why I keep saying please ship both, not one first then the other.

As for the MFT if JB is the only one on the planet that has one, I'm starting to wonder if Blackmagic should just not even bother with the passive mount and do an active BMCC mount. We've waited this long and there's no sign of the MFT coming out before NAB with the way things are going, so why not just do it? Goodluck Blackmagic, I'm really looking forward to the camera when it arrives, hopefully before April at this point of my production.

By the way @John Brawley, while we continue to wait for these lovely beasts to arrive, could you possibly post on Vimeo some of your clips of the BMCC EF and MFTs as you use them alongside the Alexas and such? Would really love to see it since you are the heaviest user. Thanks

GP, thanks for the kind words about the Rebelz music video. I'm really enjoying this fantastic camera.

a Xanax for Melvin please. It's just a camera.

I don't have anxiety, panic disorder, insomnia or depression; I find the insinuation disrespectful.

I also don't think you are funny, but I do think you have a point.

You are right. It is just a camera. Fair Enough. However, the camera or lack of one is not the complaint. It's being made to wait longer for information about how long we have to wait that is bothering me and others. It's like the Duncan Principle on Community. People, myself included, are just starting to crack under the weight of the wait which is being made longer by a policy no one can understand at this point.

That's all.

a Xanax for Melvin please. It's just a camera.

I don't have anxiety, panic disorder, insomnia or depression; I find the insinuation disrespectful.

I also don't think you are funny, but I do think you have a point.

You are right. It is just a camera. Fair Enough. However, the camera or lack of one is not the complaint. It's being made to wait longer for information about how long we have to wait that is bothering me and others. It's like the Duncan Principle on Community. People, myself included, are just starting to crack under the weight of the wait which is being made longer by a policy no one can understand at this point.

That's all.

That is one of the inherent risks you have to take into account of being an early adopter.

I would say risks of going to a product, which happens to be the 1st product launch of that type ever by a company.

But as I and Melvin have stated earlier, just a "rough estimate" of when the EF pre-orders are likely to be fulfilled given the production capacity now would be wonderful. Seriously, wonderful. Even a +/- 1month margin of error would work for me.

All told, with the MFT announcement in Sept last year I told myself I could schedule a project I have for July this year with the BMCC. But these recent delays are making me really worry. I can push it back to December, which I dear hope to the high heavens they'll be delivering by then, but that's basically my limit.

So it seems that there was a penalty for switching to the MFT after all...

We already cancelled a portion of our order and moved to Sony due to the massive delays. Given the news that MFT are still not even being manufactured it may be time to cancel the rest of the order on these... Besides, isn't there a rumor of an active MFT version now? Perhaps best to let it go and see what shows up at NAB.

Black Magic booth should be interesting at NAB this year

Except perhaps for the “flat earth” people (you always have to make allowances for them), the light bulb is eventually going to go off in our heads, that there is no percentage in giving estimates . . . for BlackMagic or for us.

Think about it. If they give us their absolute best guess based upon what is true today, then something outside their control happens tomorrow, where are we then (except perhaps for a new round of complaints)? I think BM has already learned this lesson . . . as has pretty much every other manufacturer in the known universe.

Given that I’ve made the cardinal mistake (scheduling something when I didn’t have the equipment in my hands), I can only tell you what everyone else will tell you . . . don’t do it--big mistake! If you can’t meet your commitments based upon a decision you made then blaming BM doesn’t hold water.

Speaking of guesses . . . my best one is that sometime between now and summer all this conversation will have been forgotten as production finally ramps up in a meaningful way, and a lot of (happier) folks will be out there shooting some glorious video. And, in the event I’m wrong (a 50/50 proposition) we’ve got other options, no?

Hang in there.

If its by Summer I'd be ecstatic. It's not that I don't have the gear in my hands. I have plenty of back-ups/spares and of course rental facilities if it must be a RAW capture device.

No pro should ever get caught with their pants down, but it doesn't hurt to be optimistic. I hope you're right though.

Could someone please link me to anywhere Blackmagic design actually said there would be no penalty? I remember them saying that they would speak to resellers to help people to switch their orders from EF to MFT.

Furthermore - even if they did say "no penalty" - I would assume this refers to price - not delivery date. Seeing as when they announced the MFT - they still expected to ship the EF mount at the end of that month (sept) and the MFT was not due until December - how could there NOT be a time based penalty?
If BMD had not had sensor troubles, then they would have been mass producing the EF mount in October, we are effectively in early November if it had happened this way.

But even so - I only recall John Brawley saying "you should be able to switch your order without penalty (dealer dependent)" - NOT blackmagic themselves.

If you did order an MFT - your camera has been delayed by just over 1 month (assuming the release date refers to the end of the month - as it did with the July release date). If you ordered an EF mount - you could have been waiting 6 months. There are hundreds of people who ordered before the July release date who are still yet to receive their cameras. These people have been waiting 6 months. Not including their order date - just including the time since it was due to come out.

And yes, I know some people who ordered an EF mount very early switched to MFT and thus have also been waiting a long time - but for those people, you KNEW you would be adding time onto your order. In fact, as I said - when the MFT was announced, if they had not had sensor trouble - you would have had to wait about 3 months anyway until the MFT was due to come out. So far, your MFT camera is only just over 1 month delayed.

The whole issue about the penalty to switch is a moot point.

Either way you're f'd. It doesn't matter, you have to wait. Stop expecting something fair and go read a book instead.

Production on the MFT model has been idle for 2 months. There is no other camera that shoots RAW for 3 grand that is currently shipping. The only thing we can do is wait with our pacifiers in our mouths until blackmagic finally ships these f'ing cameras to the masses, or until a competitor releases an alternative and we all jump ship.
damn this is getting old.

In december grant said "mft models were ready to go (he meant build), and 2.5 months later we are getting the same exact thing. THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO. it sucks, its not fair if you switched, but there is nothing we can do. We've bitched, we've moaned, it doesn't change a thing. You guys can continue talking about "the unjust penalty to switch" but im done wasting my time here.

If people were paid to criticize there'd be more than a few wealthy individual posters here.
I can't help but wonder how the "I'll tell all my friends . . ." statements advance the conversation?
But the most humorous comments are those by our resident "captains of industry" telling Grant how he should run his business . . . when what (most) really want is their camera, yesterday, and couldn't give two hoots about anything or anyone else.

Such is the nature of the anonymity of the web. Just bear in mind that airing your frustrations (and name calling) doesn't necessitate that everyone is going to join your personal pity party. . . because there are more than a couple of us that actually have a life.

What about the M4/3's? What about the little dealers?
Hey man, take a freaking breath, will ya?
All of the early pre-orders were for the Canon mount . . . That's the only way the camera was being offered. Big/volume dealers get more product because they sell more product, that's just a simple fact of life (no matter how difficult it may be for you to accept).
Yeah, take your money and jump on another camera that hasn't been released yet . . . Maybe you can cry about that one too (but the world is going to keep on turning) and the negative karma you bring to this board won't be missed . . . Not for a minute.

If I had a wish it would be that you all get your cameras tomorrow (although that's not likely).
The thing that I simply can't grasp is how some people behave like there's some big conspiracy, as though Black-Magic doesn't want to deliver cameras to everyone (or maybe you think they just want for YOU to have to wait). I'm pretty sure it's not personal.

Anyhow, if it makes you feel any better, you'll all have cameras before I will, because I don't have the money and haven't been able to place an order yet . . .

Good luck.

Peace.

So WFT are you doing here. You are skint, not ordered anything, not waiting for anything.
Why not go find a job mate?

+1

"He doesn't even go here!"... Mean Girls anyone?

He just has alot of feelings.

And yes, I know some people who ordered an EF mount very early switched to MFT and thus have also been waiting a long time - but for those people, you KNEW you would be adding time onto your order. In fact, as I said - when the MFT was announced, if they had not had sensor trouble - you would have had to wait about 3 months anyway until the MFT was due to come out. So far, your MFT camera is only just over 1 month delayed.

Semantics. Especially since I put in my order 2 days before you did and if they hadn't had sensor trouble, I would have my EF and so would you. I would have then traded for the MFT, but I would have had my EF and I would have had it before you. So no, my wait has actually been longer than yours and will likely be longer still.

A little genuine information and a little less placating is all we are asking for.

So anyone that ordered the EF model from Adorama received their camera yet? Would love to be able to get an update from them, but they seem to have no idea too. Gahhhhh SO FRUSTRATING!! I just want to be able to get some estimates or something! :'(

There's a claim of someone receiving a shipping notice for a January 3rd order. You're... so... close...

Some get shipping notices for Jan. 3 Preorders, but forumites here have been on preorder since April and nothing?

eye iz confuddledz

And yes, I know some people who ordered an EF mount very early switched to MFT and thus have also been waiting a long time - but for those people, you KNEW you would be adding time onto your order. In fact, as I said - when the MFT was announced, if they had not had sensor trouble - you would have had to wait about 3 months anyway until the MFT was due to come out. So far, your MFT camera is only just over 1 month delayed.

Semantics. Especially since I put in my order 2 days before you did and if they hadn't had sensor trouble, I would have my EF and so would you. I would have then traded for the MFT, but I would have had my EF and I would have had it before you. So no, my wait has actually been longer than yours and will likely be longer still.

A little genuine information and a little less placating is all we are asking for.

You ordered an EF mount camera 2 days before I did. I do not dispute that some people have ordered an EF mount camera before I did and have been waiting longer.

I am talking about the fact that I am unable to find - and no one has been able to refer me to - anywhere where Blackmagic actually said there would be no penalty for switching to a MFT camera.

I am also explaining why even IF they said there would be no penalty - why this penalty could not have referred to when you would receive your MFT camera.

Furthermore - it's not semantics - its logical fact.

And yes, I know some people who ordered an EF mount very early switched to MFT and thus have also been waiting a long time - but for those people, you KNEW you would be adding time onto your order. In fact, as I said - when the MFT was announced, if they had not had sensor trouble - you would have had to wait about 3 months anyway until the MFT was due to come out. So far, your MFT camera is only just over 1 month delayed.

Semantics. Especially since I put in my order 2 days before you did and if they hadn't had sensor trouble, I would have my EF and so would you. I would have then traded for the MFT, but I would have had my EF and I would have had it before you. So no, my wait has actually been longer than yours and will likely be longer still.

A little genuine information and a little less placating is all we are asking for.

You ordered an EF mount camera 2 days before I did. I do not dispute that some people have ordered an EF mount camera before I did and have been waiting longer.

I am talking about the fact that I am unable to find - and no one has been able to refer me to - anywhere where Blackmagic actually said there would be no penalty for switching to a MFT camera.

I am also explaining why even IF they said there would be no penalty - why this penalty could not have referred to when you would receive your MFT camera.

Furthermore - it's not semantics - its logical fact.

I agree with Melvin. If BMD had kept to the delivery date he would have had his BMCC EF before you did. The switch came after the promised delivery date of the EF had expired. I don't think anyone who switched would have had problems if delivery of the EF came first as long as the MFT schedule delivery for December 2012 hadnt also passed. The fact that both EF and MFT delivery dates has passed and productions hadnt taken off properly until last month or so is the issue here. Customers who switched and promises of without penalty are now made to suffer the penalty of switching.

The "penalty" was in regard to the price. The MFT costs the same as the EF. It seems we have a whole new breed of whiners now. What will happen if/when the active MFT is released for $1,000.00 more?

I agree with Melvin. If BMD had kept to the delivery date he would have had his BMCC EF before you did.

Then you also agree with me, seeing as I at no point disputed this fact.

The switch came after the promised delivery date of the EF had expired. I don't think anyone who switched would have had problems if delivery of the EF came first as long as the MFT schedule delivery for December 2012 hadnt also passed. The fact that both EF and MFT delivery dates has passed and productions hadnt taken off properly until last month or so is the issue here. Customers who switched and promises of without penalty are now made to suffer the penalty of switching.

Again, Where does BMD say anything about their not being a penalty? and again, if you CAN find where they mention this - where does it specify that the penalty refers to when you get your camera - and not price?

where does it specify that the penalty refers to when you get your camera - and not price?

Since BMD has yet to make any of their delivery commitments and as of l8 has stopped making delivery commitments altogether, I can't imagine how anyone would conclude that the "penalty" referred to delivery.

where does it specify that the penalty refers to when you get your camera - and not price?

Since BMD has yet to make any of their delivery commitments and as of l8 has stopped making delivery commitments altogether, I can't imagine how anyone would conclude that the "penalty" referred to delivery.

I agree with you -I can't imagine why either. However clearly some people do.

What surprises me though is how many people claim to have been told by BMD that there would be no penalty - and somehow - I cannot find such a promise anywhere online.

Active/schmactive. $1,000 more for active? Not for me, but it'd be mighty awesome if my line in the MFT world got cut if people switched to the active MFT preorder. I don't understand the draw to MFT active. EF active I definitely get, but MFT? I guess if you wanted to use some of the new Lumix glass with electronic iris control I guess.

But the manual MFT BMCC is amazing to me, cause of all the glass you can throw on, and the majority of high end glass being all manual anyways. Even the Voigtlanders and SLR Magic lenses are all manual. Riding a smooth aperture ring mid-shoot is such a wonderful tool to have, can't understand why so many hate it.

Active/schmactive. $1,000 more for active? Not for me, but it'd be mighty awesome if my line in the MFT world got cut if people switched to the active MFT preorder. I don't understand the draw to MFT active. EF active I definitely get, but MFT? I guess if you wanted to use some of the new Lumix glass with electronic iris control I guess.

But the manual MFT BMCC is amazing to me, cause of all the glass you can throw on, and the majority of high end glass being all manual anyways. Even the Voigtlanders and SLR Magic lenses are all manual. Riding a smooth aperture ring mid-shoot is such a wonderful tool to have, can't understand why so many hate it.

I think the hope is that you would be able to utilize an adapter on an MFT active mount to access the electronic iris controls on lenses such as EF lenses. Indeed, the real hope here would be to use a version of the Metabones Speedbooster on an MFT mount - again, with active iris control.

Being someone with a small fortune (to me) invested in EF glass (and the need to keep it for stills), the (active) EF mount is really my only choice. However, if there were an active MFT mount (and an active MFT Speedbooster), I'd clearly prefer the MFT mount + adapter. In fact, I have maintained my EF order, reasoning that an active MFT mount from BMD is probably about two years out. At that time, I would probably just buy a second BMCC (assuming, of course, that I love the BMCC as much as I think I will).

Once again nothing.... nothing new, nothing about production, delivers and so on. Come on... be serious!

Once again nothing.... nothing new, nothing about production, delivers and so on. Come on... be serious!

+1

the time will make shipping to mexico???

Once again nothing.... nothing new, nothing about production, delivers and so on. Come on... be serious!

You expecting someone latching his "Shot on:" list to a video such as the Rebelz, or whatever, to be serious??

How about more "i got my bmcc, let me show you how it looks with a cigarette lighter" nonsense. Like Im going to light a scene this way

As I suspected, no real shooters doing anything with this camera yet, or at least not posting footage (and no, home movies of big sur or (insert popular destination) dont count..or magic bullet looks, or.... )

... counting down to the "baby alexa" responders in 3....2....1....

Care to share examples of your work?

Care to share examples of your work?

+10000

I'm extremely disappointed with these "news" I payed in full for the MTF model in september, I realise that BM is behind on EF orders but why should we MTF buyers suffer for this? Are we looking forward for 6 more months of waiting? I'm really close to cancel my order and see whats new at NAB, maybe use my money on a company that CAN deliver in a reasonable amount of time.

Given the current trend of updates, barring something serious, the next update will come in 3-5 weeks.

Fingers crossed, stay positive!

If people were paid to criticize <snipped for brevity> . . .

Good luck.

Peace.

So WFT are you doing here. You are skint, not ordered anything, not waiting for anything.
Why not go find a job mate?

+1

"He doesn't even go here!"... Mean Girls anyone?

He just has alot of feelings.

Really? This kind of comment from two obvious professionals adds so much to the conversation.
(I'd have responded sooner but I had to go purchase more tissue to dry my tears after having received your admonishment), <g>.

Odd as it may seem to the two of you, I actually have camera equipment and do well enough that I don't have as much time as perhaps you might to sit around and bleet like lost sheep or disparage people you've never met. I'm not sure that having plunked down money on the camera is a requirement of this club...then again, I could be wrong.

Either way, when I do get my hands on a BMCC it's likely I'll actually know what to do with it.

Russia urgently in Russia 50. (I'm 29)

I have to agree that more transparency and specificity would be appreciated. I ordered the camera on behalf of my college back in July, and I need to know if it is going to ship within our current fiscal year. If it is, fine, but if not I need to reallocate those funds for something else.

I feel like a lot of us got on board early and in good faith, and we have a real need for specific dates, quantities, and firm commitments. I'm a patient enough person and appreciate the narrative updates, but my budget runs on numbers and dates.

Also, what is going on with the Hyperdeck Studio Pro? Should I write it off as vaporware and cancel my purchase order for that?

Also, what is going on with the Hyperdeck Studio Pro? Should I write it off as vaporware and cancel my purchase order for that?

The HyperDeck Studio Pro started shipping a couple weeks ago. We're still working through the pre-orders, but it looks like they should be in stock within a month or so.

Things are going much faster with EF model camera production, and we have been getting out a very steady stream of cameras to all of our distributors around the world weekly.

Lie. I asked three official resellers in Madrid (Spain) and only one have received 1 camera and it´s the demo one. The other two resellers are still waiting some news as we.

Also, I know there have been questions regarding the backorder and which regions are getting cameras first. Camera shipments are being sent out evenly between the offices, and will continue to be shipped that way.

What way? Only BM nows the way!! BM are not shipping cameras world wide. Just a few of us have his camera and considering the rates, I don´t think BM have shipped more than a couple of hundred cameras. As we don´t know the BMCC demand numbers we don´t know when our cameras will arrive. But I´m sure that BM knows when they will cover the demand. So, to be honest you should tell us something more concrete and stop posting
useless comments.


And glad to see so many of you posting your footage captured on the Blackmagic Cinema Camera.


I will be very glad if you stop lying and tell the truth and then we can decide if we will wait for the camera or look for alternatives. Your silence talks about the company, and not good.

So WFT are you doing here. You are skint, not ordered anything, not waiting for anything.
Why not go find a job mate?[/quote]

+1

"He doesn't even go here!"... Mean Girls anyone?

He just has alot of feelings.[/quote]

Really? This kind of comment from two obvious professionals adds so much to the conversation.
(I'd have responded sooner but I had to go purchase more tissue to dry my tears after having received your admonishment), <g>.

Odd as it may seem to the two of you, I actually have camera equipment and do well enough that I don't have as much time as perhaps you might to sit around and bleet like lost sheep or disparage people you've never met. I'm not sure that having plunked down money on the camera is a requirement of this club...then again, I could be wrong.

Either way, when I do get my hands on a BMCC it's likely I'll actually know what to do with it.[/quote]



How does quoting a movie make me unprofessional? (We're all aspiring filmmakers right?). I was simply pointing out the humor I saw in the situation. I think it is comical for someone who has not ordered a product to be meticulously following its shipping thread. But if thats what you choose to do, then by all means do it. If I did not have a vested interest in this camera, I would probably find something better to do with my time. As far as the personal attacks go, you've never met me either so you can hardly label me a lost sheep.

I don't want to stray too much from the shipping topic, but I also wanted to ask a question about the DaVinci Resolve software. I have, somewhat, accepted the long wait for my camera. But, how about as a sign of good faith BMD could allow me to download the Resolve software so I could at least be learning that software while I wait for the camera? I mean, I have already paid the money and the software is downloadable, so why not? I realize that I could still cancel my order, but let's be honest. I have already made my leap of faith and paid for the camera upfront. What say you, Grant?

Please be respectful to each other and to our community's work. I've already deleted a couple posts. I really don't want to be forced to lock this thread.

Jon the Lite version is the same as the Dongle version.
A couple of things dont work like multiple GPUs.