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BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostWed Jan 11, 2017 7:55 pm

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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostSun Jan 15, 2017 4:17 pm

I bought the last version Phil made and its great...this one looks to be even better with improved functionality.
I'm down for the new one and hope the campaign is successful.
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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostSun Jan 15, 2017 5:24 pm

this look's amazing i've backed it. it's going to be a game changer for this camera. i can't wait to see what else comes in the future too... can you imagine a handle remote with zoom, focus control and WB all within thumb reach? it would turn it into the best run and gun camera out there!

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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostSun Jan 15, 2017 5:34 pm

I did the same, Lee. Bought the fkrst Goat, and put in for the new one, which Phil told me he was developing back when I got his first model. The new model uses the S Bus, instead of the various analog remote channels on the Micro Cinema camera (aircraft remote connections). The new Arduino/S-Bus version will work with both the Micro Cinema and the Micro Studio camera. The addition of the LANC connection was a suggestion/request I made, which he was already looking into including.

Phil has also added a IOS application for wireless remote control of some functions. All for u dear $200!

Also Kim LeViteZer, has an Arduino/S-Bus remote available, built to order, using dedicated toggle switches in addition to the programmable pot/rotational control. Kim's remote is designed more for using with a gimbal or boom rig. It is a,so a little smaller in size, and can also be mounted to the camera. He also has custom layouts ofmswitches/pots available. See http://www.levitezer.com
I also have the basic model of Kim's remote coming (it is stuck in NY at the airport USPS/Customs backlog).
Cheers

Both are great products and are products I hoped would be developed when the Micro was first released.
I will be doing a comparison/review of all three units when I get the other two rounded up.
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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostSun Jan 15, 2017 6:12 pm

Phil has an update to his remote project out, with a finished prototype here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=you ... N_GCiicPL8

Even if you are not interested in buying a remote, he is taking $5 contributions to help fund his project, which I feel is worthwhile to support. So, skip a cup of coffee, and send Pledge $5 to Phil's remote project :!:
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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostTue Jan 17, 2017 9:05 am

Hey this is looking good.

So my question is how thick is the cable that connects the box to the side of the bmmcc?
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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostTue Jan 17, 2017 5:56 pm

Very thin and flexible, it is a ribbon cable inside a soft vinyl or woven cover. I have one on my Little Goat V2 remote.
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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostWed Jan 18, 2017 1:02 am

Denny Smith wrote:Very thin and flexible, it is a ribbon cable inside a soft vinyl or woven cover. I have one on my Little Goat V2 remote.
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Oh nice... "Very thin & Flexible" is good! Woven is better!
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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostMon Jan 23, 2017 9:34 pm

Let's keep this post on the top of the forum. There is 16 days left in this Kickstarter Program and he is behind in his goal. If he doesn't reach his goal, the product won't be made. This is a great addition to the Micro Cinema Camera. I'm a backer for this product. The other guy is charging $335 for a controller that isn't even close to to quality as this one. We need more backers. Spread the word please!
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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostTue Jan 24, 2017 4:26 pm

Keith Babineaux wrote:Let's keep this post on the top of the forum. There is 16 days left in this Kickstarter Program and he is behind in his goal. If he doesn't reach his goal, the product won't be made.


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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostWed Jan 25, 2017 4:43 pm

Phil is also making a phone app that will control your Micro Cinema Camera via bluetooth. The app is included with the purchase of the One Little Remote.
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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostWed Jan 25, 2017 7:03 pm

Phil is listing his remote as for both cameras. I hope he realizes that the +5VDC available on pin 14 on the Micro Cinema camera, used to power the remote, is not available on the Micro Studio camera, so for it to work on the BMMSC4K, he is going to need to power it externally. Unfortunately, BM used pin 14 on the Studio version for B4 lens control (transmit).

I ran into this issue with Kim's little remote, I got to test out for him. When I went to use it in the Micro Studio, it did not work, as it was not getting the 5VDC to power the Arduino. Kim came up with the idea of an external power input plug to get power to it in the Studio camera.
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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostWed Jan 25, 2017 9:35 pm

Denny,

I've just spoken to Phil and he says that the remote has a micro-usb port on the back that accepts external power. For $108, that's an awesome deal. Of course the price will go up after the Kickstarter program so I encourage everyone to be a backer and get theirs at this price. You have to put in your Credit Card Info but your card won't be charged until the campaign ends which is February 8th. So you have until February 8th to make up your mind and you can back out of the campaign at any time before February 8th.
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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostWed Jan 25, 2017 10:13 pm

Thanks for the update. That is one solution that would work, but then you would need to get a USB 5VDC power source. I want to keep my Micro Studio setup powered from a single source Anton Bauer GM camera battery. It would be great to have the 5-VDC come off the 12VDC input on Phil's remote, that is currently the camera power input also. Being able to power both the camera DS the remote from the one input would be grand.
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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostFri Jan 27, 2017 3:32 am

Yeah....I just pledged to buy one of these. Looks like a great setup.

Particularily with an App and the power input and lanc out - what Denny said.

So can I also change the Frames Per Second?

I'd love to have my little setup groups with FPS, Shutter, ISO, Aperture, WB etc. So that I can quickly change to my ideal settings for different shooting scenarios.

"cool I'm gonna shoot 60fps, 180 degree at 200 ISO, f2.8, 4000K" - tap on my 'dwano's slow mo outside' setting.

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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostFri Jan 27, 2017 5:34 am

No, you have to use the camera Menus to,change resolution and FPS, then the camera does a reset (reboot) to enable the change. See the remote section of the Micro camera manual for what can be controlled via SBus.
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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostFri Jan 27, 2017 7:14 am

Denny Smith wrote:No, you have to use the camera Menus to,change resolution and FPS, then the camera does a reset (reboot) to enable the change. See the remote section of the Micro camera manual for what can be controlled via SBus.
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Ah bummer. That would have been cool.

I'll check out the manual!

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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostFri Jan 27, 2017 7:41 pm

Yes Dawane, it would have been. I asked Phil about this last summer when he was developing the new remote.
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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostSat Jan 28, 2017 1:51 am

I think that a remote function for resolution and FPS is an overkill. This remote comes with a mobile app that controls the same functions as the hardware that is included. This will take the BMMCC to another level in filmmaking. I have fat fingers so I be pressing 2 buttons at the same time on the camera. This is very aggravating. For $123, this is a product that is hard to ignore.
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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostSat Jan 28, 2017 10:57 pm

Yeah it would have been nice if the specific buttons on the bmmcc were exposed to these protocols as well.

I always do a reformat on a card when I put a new one in. So it will still be the little buttons for FPS and card reformats.

But the focus thing should be cool. I have a sigma 18-35mm that has autofocus (I believe). I use that on my ronin m and I've always said it would be good to ping between two points for some dynamics. So I believe from what I've read you can set two points and then push 1 button to go from one to another.

That's cool.
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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostSun Jan 29, 2017 10:36 am

Yes programmable focus stops is a nice feature to have in a remote.
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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostThu Feb 02, 2017 10:53 am

There's only 6 days left to go on this kick starter!

This remote would totally change how people use the micro cinema camera. Please go check it out and back it if you use one, it's missing part of the puzzle.
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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostThu Feb 02, 2017 5:20 pm

if it was a lot more ergonomic I would agree...

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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostSun Feb 05, 2017 8:49 pm

UPDATE ON PRODUCT

With 3 days left in the Kickstarter campaign it does not look like the project will reach it's goal.

I have been in contact with Phil.
He hopes to move forward with the product.
He is working on a new case design that he can build himself. The first version took too much time to build.
He is hoping to have a prototype of the new case done before the Kickstarter campaign ends.

He plans to post a link on the Kickstarter campaign page for the new prototype that he is working on.

When I get the link I will post it on this forum.
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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostWed Feb 08, 2017 3:38 pm

Found this link on the Kickstarter website.

http://onelittlegoat.com/index.php/27-c ... ema-camera
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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostWed Feb 08, 2017 6:27 pm

Yes, Phil also sent this out on his Kickstarter mailing list. However to order, you need to pre-pay at the time you order. His new version looks more compact that the first version, and I like the idea he is developing a grip to go round it.
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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostFri Feb 24, 2017 2:46 pm

Update video.

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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostSat Feb 25, 2017 4:02 pm

The thing that caught my eye in the video is the battery.

The NP-F Bridge. http://www.starvingartist101.com/

Replacing Canon LP-E6 batteries with Sony NP-F batteries

Can anyone give some feedback if they have used one?

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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostSat Feb 25, 2017 6:14 pm

Leon, just send Phil a PM or Email at phil@onelittlegoat.com, and ask him how he likes the battery bridge?
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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostSat Feb 25, 2017 6:21 pm

I bought the NP-F bridge from the starving artist seller having read Phils comment.
It works just fine and its great to be using an NP-F970 battery and not having to carry around all those LPE6 ones!
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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostSat Feb 25, 2017 7:41 pm

Phil Lee wrote:I bought the NP-F bridge from the starving artist seller having read Phils comment.
It works just fine and its great to be using an NP-F970 battery and not having to carry around all those LPE6 ones!


Can you direct me to Phil's comment of which you speak?


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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostSun Feb 26, 2017 9:02 am

Leon Benzakein wrote:
Phil Lee wrote:I bought the NP-F bridge from the starving artist seller having read Phils comment.
It works just fine and its great to be using an NP-F970 battery and not having to carry around all those LPE6 ones!


Can you direct me to Phil's comment of which you speak?


:D


Yes it was in the 'updates' section when Phil was running his Kickstarter campaign. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/12 ... ts/1789650
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Re: BM Micro Cinema & Studio Camera Remote Control

PostSun Feb 26, 2017 3:56 pm

Phil Lee wrote:
Leon Benzakein wrote:
Phil Lee wrote:I bought the NP-F bridge from the starving artist seller having read Phils comment.
It works just fine and its great to be using an NP-F970 battery and not having to carry around all those LPE6 ones!


Can you direct me to Phil's comment of which you speak?


:D


Yes it was in the 'updates' section when Phil was running his Kickstarter campaign. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/12 ... ts/1789650


Thanks Phil.
Much appreciated. You are a gentleman and a scholar.
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