Grading for vimeo/youtube

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SirArthurDent

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Grading for vimeo/youtube

PostWed May 16, 2018 7:55 am

Hey there,

I've been reading several threads about this for a while now and they always move into an array of very interesting discussions about various aspects of the gear and standards and comparability in general but I still haven't quite found out the closest solution to one problem.

Here is what I have to work with:

I have an EIZO CG247 connected via Ultrastudio Mini Monitor in Resolve 15.
It is 'calibrated' via DisplayCAL to REC709 2.4Gamma D65 with an xrite i1 and that LUT is in the 3D Video Monitoring Tab.

Now what I want to find out is this:


How can I get what I will see in the browser on vimeo to look somewhat similar to what I see on my screen in Resolve on that same monitor


Just to narrow down the discussion lets assume it doesn't matter what this file will look like on any other system, monitor, platform, player, cinema, iphone ...

All I want is to get what I see in DaVinci as close as possible to what I will see on vimeo on the same screen.

Now I know there's better monitors and better calibration systems and profiling software and a whole lot of better other stuff I don't even know about but it's not a question of what is the best system and a perfect solution but just 'how do I make what I have, best work within its limitations?'

I'd be really grateful if someone had a suggestion for the best way to approach this specific situation.

Cheers,
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Re: Grading for vimeo/youtube

PostMon Jun 04, 2018 8:24 pm

In the wiki on DisplayCAL (link to wiki in menu at top of home page) there are step by step instructions on how to do both the monitor and the GUI viewer in Resolve:

https://hub.displaycal.net/wiki/3d-lut- ... r-resolve/

Worked great for me, but in the new Beta 4 there seems to be a bug that the viewer takes on the properties of the monitor LUT. I just posted about it. Doesn't seem right to me: the viewer should not change at all when no LUT is applied to the gui Viewer, nor when a Monitor only LUT is applied.
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Re: Grading for vimeo/youtube

PostMon Jun 04, 2018 11:33 pm

Having never actually tried to do this, I do think there's a real possibility that what you want simply can't be done.

Coming out of Resolve, you're seeing the image as it is. Coming from YouTube/Vimeo, it's not only gone through their encoding, but it's also going through the browser's render engine. Those are two things out of your control.
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Re: Grading for vimeo/youtube

PostTue Jun 05, 2018 2:12 am

Plus, 99,9% of all the folks watching your film will not have a calibrated display.
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Re: Grading for vimeo/youtube

PostTue Jun 05, 2018 7:34 am

Uli Plank wrote:Plus, 99,9% of all the folks watching your film will not have a calibrated display.


This means you have to have your display perfectly set up, so any miscolorations on your customers displays are less far from perfect.
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Re: Grading for vimeo/youtube

PostWed Jun 06, 2018 3:21 am

Second that, or your aberrations may be to one side and those of some clients all the way to the other side. If you have a calibrated monitor, you can print a calibration sheet and prove that theirs is off.

Just needed to point out a sad fact of life.
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Re: Grading for vimeo/youtube

PostWed Jun 06, 2018 3:39 am

Uli Plank wrote:If you have a calibrated monitor, you can print a calibration sheet and prove that theirs is off.


Make sure you send it by registered mail so you can prove that they got it. :lol:
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