Slow Rendering

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swammi

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Slow Rendering

PostMon Jul 30, 2018 1:19 pm

Just purchased the DR 15 Studio version. Noticed that the render times are extremely slow compared with Premiere Pro. So I conducted a test rendering a 1 minute timeline with no effects with both NLE's. Using the exact same export settings I got the final results. Premiere Pro took 34 seconds to render.
Davinci Resolve took 3 minutes and 40 seconds!!!!

I have the following setup: Intel i7 8700k processor 6 core
32 gb of ram
GTX 1070 graphics card
Windows 10
If this is what I am going to deal with than I pissed away $300.00
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Re: Slow Rendering

PostMon Jul 30, 2018 2:17 pm

I think you forgot to mention media info of your clips!
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Re: Slow Rendering

PostMon Jul 30, 2018 3:54 pm

And did you render from the original media in both or from the timeline that may have had cached results? May be dozens of factors. What codec did you render your deliverables?


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Re: Slow Rendering

PostMon Jul 30, 2018 4:05 pm

rick.lang wrote:And did you render from the original media in both or from the timeline that may have had cached results?

Without any more details, I'm going to go with this, because if memory serves PP has caching on by default.



my 6 core (6850k) GTX 1070 based machine, can render UHD 10bit 4:2:2 GH5 footage to DNxHR HQ in real time with no caching, so i suspect the machine has a bottleneck of some type.

OP, what are you rendering from/to, and what are your disks like?
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Re: Slow Rendering

PostWed Aug 01, 2018 1:21 am

Each NLE had the original footage which was 1080 p 30 fps and both rendered it out and the same output settings (1080p 30fps) Both NLE's got the footage from an internal HD and was rendered out to a SSD.
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Re: Slow Rendering

PostWed Aug 01, 2018 5:38 pm

rick.lang wrote:And did you render from the original media in both or from the timeline that may have had cached results? May be dozens of factors. What codec did you render your deliverables?


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How does one choose when to render?
original media
timeline
both, so the original media, then again the timeline(does this even matter if you add in no effects, like transitions, color changes etc)
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Re: Slow Rendering

PostWed Aug 01, 2018 5:41 pm

Dan Sherman wrote:if memory serves PP has caching on by default.


Memory does not serve in this case. What Resolve calls the Render Cache, Premiere Pro calls Preview files. Those are always generated by the user, never automatically.

The Cache files in Premiere Pro are something else entirely, for which Resolve has no analog.
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Re: Slow Rendering

PostWed Aug 01, 2018 5:46 pm

I switched to Resolve because Premiere Pro couldn't properly handle Adobe's own CinemaDNG format used by the Pocket camera.

But the Pocket also shoots ProRes, which works fine in PP. Using that media, I've not noticed any significant performance difference in export times between the two NLEs on the same machine.
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Re: Slow Rendering

PostWed Aug 01, 2018 6:11 pm

Hellagrant, I have no idea if I’m doing the right thing or there’s a better solution, but in using Resolve with raw footage, I:

1) select Project Settings to use ProRes 422 Optimized Media
2) manually select Generate Optimized Media from the Media Page
3) define my Timeline parameters to be something that will run okay on my 2015 iMac such as ½ resolution and HD
4) on the Deliver page ignore all that stuff and render the deliverables from the original files at highest quality and limit the processing rate to something that works (1 or 2 fps on a hot day or up to 10 fps with cool ambient temperatures and a breeze in the room).


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Re: Slow Rendering

PostWed Aug 01, 2018 6:16 pm

swammi wrote:Each NLE had the original footage which was 1080 p 30 fps and both rendered it out and the same output settings (1080p 30fps) Both NLE's got the footage from an internal HD and was rendered out to a SSD.


You need to download a program such as Mediainfo so that we can see your recording spec -
and if you can show a picture of export setup in Premiere Pro and in Davinci Resolve !

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Re: Slow Rendering

PostThu Aug 02, 2018 2:35 pm

Ed, what codec and format is the source media?
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