BMPcc4k On new zhiyun Weebil S

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BMPcc4k On new zhiyun Weebil S

PostSat Oct 12, 2019 1:41 pm

In 00:31 we can see the p4k on the new weebill s and another shots; Wonder why they didn't say it?










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Re: BMPcc4k On new zhiyun Weebil S

PostSat Oct 12, 2019 1:49 pm

Yea, this new gimbal looks like a great solution. Although, I would like to know if it could power the P4K. That's one feature that a few gimbals, like the Moza Air 2 and Ronin S, are able to provide.
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Re: BMPcc4k On new zhiyun Weebil S

PostSat Oct 12, 2019 2:20 pm

Got this from BH

The Zhiyun-Tech WEEBILL-S incorporates the underslung mode design of its predecessor, the WEEBILL LAB, and also has a more compact form as well as other new features. The sling mode design consists of a handle on the rear that allows for easy switching to underslung mode as well as better handling in all other modes. Other improvements include upgraded motors and stabilization algorithm. The WEEBILL-S features 300% more motor torque and 50% more responsiveness. This allows you to better balance camera/lens combos such as the Canon 5D Mark IV with a 24-70mm zoom lens.

Being released along with the WEEBILL-S as an optional accessory is the TransMount Image Transmission Module, a compact device designed to neatly mount under the quick release plate of the WEEBILL-S and allow wireless streaming of up to 1080p30 resolution over distances up to 328'. Up to three devices, including phones, tablets, and select professional monitors, can be synced up using corresponding receiver modules.

The companion Zhiyun-Tech ZY Play app, compatible with iOS and Android, has been upgraded to work with the Image Transmission Module to allow more efficient control of the gimbal. A feature in the app called SmartFollow 2.0 works with the module to allow precision object tracking directly from the app. A tool called Sync Motion enables real-time monitoring and synchronous motion control. There are also upgrades to standard features, including ViaTouch 2.0, which allows you to control various functions and settings of your camera and gimbal directly from your smartphone screen. These include zoom and focus, where supported, as well as follow speed, ISO, aperture, and more. Other features you'll find in the ZY Play app include creative capture tools such as Panorama, Timelapse, Motionlapse, and Long Exposure Timelapse, among others.

The WEEBILL-S offers six modes of operation. These include Full-Range POV Mode, which allows 360° synchronous movement on all three axes, and Vortex Mode, which lets you achieve 360° barrel shots. Please see the Features section below for a description of all six modes. Other features of the gimbal include Intelligent Auto-Tune, which automatically recognizes the weight of your camera and adapts to the weight to provide the best power efficiency possible. The battery operating time of the WEEBILL-S has also been increased to up to 14 hours.

The WEEBILL-S allows electronic focus control with supporting cameras. This is done using the integrated handwheel. Please see the Zhiyun-Tech website for an up-to-date list of supported cameras. The gimbal also supports mechanical focus and zoom control using optional motors. The WEEBILL-S supports the TransMount motors as well as all the other TransMount accessories that the predecessor model was compatible with. Among these is the Quick Setup Adapter Set that has become very popular since its release.

The WEEBILL-S comes with multiple accessories, including an Arca Swiss/Manfrotto dual-layer quick release plate and a storage case. Also included is a mini tripod that can be used as a stand or an extension handle. The mini tripod is also what completes the gimbal for underslung, low-mode operation. It attaches to the rear handle to function as an overhead handle.


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Re: BMPcc4k On new zhiyun Weebil S

PostSat Oct 12, 2019 2:26 pm

Unless you shoot running rodents, small dogs or lots of human feet, the underslung mode seems like a strange principle around which to design a gimbal. What are the downsides of this design, pardon the expression?

And this video, like just about every other gimbal youtube, declines to reveal how well the thing really performs. It doesn't help that there's no way of knowing what they had to do to get the BMPCC 4K on this unit.
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Re: BMPcc4k On new zhiyun Weebil S

PostSat Oct 12, 2019 2:32 pm

John Paines wrote:Unless you shoot running rodents, small dogs or lots of human feet, the underslung mode seems like a strange principal around which to design a gimbal. What are the downsides of this design, pardon the expression?

And this video, like just about every other gimbal youtube, declines to reveal how well the thing really performs. It doesn't help that there's no way of knowing what they had to do to get the BMPCC 4K on this unit.


I agree. But the size and transportability of this gimble are awesome. Let's see it the promised gimble capabilities in the new p4k firmware makes this gimble more attractive.

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Re: BMPcc4k On new zhiyun Weebil S

PostSat Oct 12, 2019 3:18 pm

The dude from Up, Potatoe jet, put the pocket 4K and he had to use something to counter the weight because of the weird shape from the camera.
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Re: BMPcc4k On new zhiyun Weebil S

PostSat Oct 12, 2019 4:53 pm

Chris Shivers wrote:The dude from Up, Potatoe jet, put the pocket 4K and he had to use something to counter the weight because of the weird shape from the camera.


I think you are confuzing this with the moza air 2. The weebill s is not out yet.

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Re: BMPcc4k On new zhiyun Weebil S

PostSat Oct 12, 2019 6:00 pm

Why so negative, John? :) Potato Jet gives some good insights.



John Paines wrote:Unless you shoot running rodents, small dogs or lots of human feet, the underslung mode seems like a strange principle around which to design a gimbal. What are the downsides of this design, pardon the expression?

And this video, like just about every other gimbal youtube, declines to reveal how well the thing really performs. It doesn't help that there's no way of knowing what they had to do to get the BMPCC 4K on this unit.
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Re: BMPcc4k On new zhiyun Weebil S

PostSat Oct 12, 2019 6:24 pm

NewsShooter has a very detailed review:
https://www.newsshooter.com/2019/10/11/ ... -s-review/
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BMPcc4k On new zhiyun Weebil S

PostSat Oct 12, 2019 10:10 pm

Matt mentioned a five minute video illustrating the time it took to setup a camera and so on, but all I saw was five minutes of following his talent walking.

Five minutes holding this with my BMPCC4K with APO and Anamorphot and my old wrist will require medical attention even if it was able to balance. Two hands and a body rig preferred because a working day is not a “walk in the park.”

This complete system is so cheap, they’ll sell a lot, but how much you use it is another matter. Reading Matt’s comments, there are many warnings about assuming too much about it’s practicality. Yes to an occasional shot when you’re proficient at it. No to prolonged use or cue the medics.


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Re: BMPcc4k On new zhiyun Weebil S

PostSat Oct 12, 2019 10:33 pm

rick.lang wrote:Matt mentioned a five minute video illustrating the time it took to setup a camera and so on, but all I saw was five minutes of following his talent walking.


That's the best gimbal work I've ever seen, so much so, I didn't believe it. And sure enough, I see that the Nikon z6 has 5-axis stabilization, which almost certainly accounts for that superhuman performance. The only thing which compares is with the Steady Mate S body rig.

That continuous shot, without stabilization, would put most lay gimbal users in intensive care and it would be freely bouncing up and down after about 30 seconds.
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Re: BMPcc4k On new zhiyun Weebil S

PostSun Oct 13, 2019 1:45 am

Maybe by nba. Ny bmd will have the new p4k firmware with tiemble funciones. Its next weeks. Lets ser.

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Re: BMPcc4k On new zhiyun Weebil S

PostSun Oct 13, 2019 3:46 am

ricardo marty wrote:
Chris Shivers wrote:The dude from Up, Potatoe jet, put the pocket 4K and he had to use something to counter the weight because of the weird shape from the camera.


I think you are confuzing this with the moza air 2. The weebill s is not out yet.

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Yea he had the newest version lol
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Re: BMPcc4k On new zhiyun Weebil S

PostSun Oct 13, 2019 4:23 am

Chris Shivers wrote:
ricardo marty wrote:
Chris Shivers wrote:The dude from Up, Potatoe jet, put the pocket 4K and he had to use something to counter the weight because of the weird shape from the camera.


I think you are confuzing this with the moza air 2. The weebill s is not out yet.

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Yea he had the newest version lol


Yea right, rub it in


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Re: BMPcc4k On new zhiyun Weebil S

PostThu Oct 17, 2019 12:53 pm

I hope they will list info about payload. So far I have read rumors on bhp about up to 3.0kgs - not confirmed by anyone.
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Re: BMPcc4k On new zhiyun Weebil S

PostSat Oct 26, 2019 7:09 am

These might be "out in the wild" now. Has anyone tried a BMPCC 4/6k with the Weebil S? Offset plates? Counterweights? Performance?

(Oh, and while I guess there might be a "special market" for shots of walking feet, I'm planning on getting great shots of dogs down at their level.)
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Re: BMPcc4k On new zhiyun Weebil S

PostSat Oct 26, 2019 7:53 pm

I was wondering if you could rotate the tilt-motor to the left, like with the MOZA gimbals. This way I can mount my bmpcc 4k even on an "old" MOZA Air.
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Re: BMPcc4k On new zhiyun Weebil S

PostSat Oct 26, 2019 10:55 pm

Tom Donalek wrote:These might be "out in the wild" now. Has anyone tried a BMPCC 4/6k with the Weebil S? Offset plates? Counterweights? Performance?

(Oh, and while I guess there might be a "special market" for shots of walking feet, I'm planning on getting great shots of dogs down at their level.)


The zhiyun promo video shows the p4k working on the weebill s and potato jet mounts a 6k but needs counterbalance,

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Re: BMPcc4k On new zhiyun Weebil S

PostTue Oct 29, 2019 8:13 am

Todd Groves wrote:Yea, this new gimbal looks like a great solution. Although, I would like to know if it could power the P4K. That's one feature that a few gimbals, like the Moza Air 2 and Ronin S, are able to provide.


I am also very interested in that info.
I've seen a USB-C port on the gimbal, but I'm guessing it's just for the follow focus motor, not for the camera
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Re: BMPcc4k On new zhiyun Weebil S

PostTue Oct 29, 2019 3:32 pm

Any news on the Moza Air-X?


2 things I hope this brings...
1. Support for the UMP G2 weight and size.
2. Ease of use and balancing
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Re: BMPcc4k On new zhiyun Weebil S

PostTue Oct 29, 2019 3:36 pm

Ellory Yu wrote:Any news on the Moza Air-X?


2 things I hope this brings...
1. Support for the UMP G2 weight and size.
2. Ease of use and balancing


It is supposed to show up in the last quarter of 2019. They stated it to have 7,2k of capacity.


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Re: BMPcc4k On new zhiyun Weebil S

PostTue Apr 14, 2020 12:12 pm

It's not the best gimbal by a long shot but the portability is great. AND portability needs to be reasons 1, 2 & 3 to get this.
Can build it up with dual handles or strip it down to normal size... I also use the NPF battery as a 'counterweight'. Glad I switched from a Crane 3.
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transmission module

PostTue May 26, 2020 6:37 am

Hi, has anyone tried using the transmission module without the gimbal on the bmpcc 4k?
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