Subway To 14th St - Shot on Pocket Camera

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Ned Soltz

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Subway To 14th St - Shot on Pocket Camera

PostThu Aug 15, 2013 3:56 am

Shot on Pocket Camera -

ProResHQ (of course, no Raw yet), 23.98fps, ISO 1600, Lumix 14mm f/2.5
Combination of hand held and monopod
Brought ProResHQ into Resolve and merely applied Blackmagic Camera 3D output LUT. Exported to PremierPro CC for edit. Music track from Smartsound

The Vimeo looks softer than the original ProRes and a couple of shots seemed to have picked up a bit more contrast.

There is more footage from today's initial playing with camera. Production shoot coming up but I most likely will not edit or grade that piece.

Also played with some interesting glass today at Abel Cine. We put a PL adapter on camera and tested 2 Optex Super16 lenses, the 4mm and 5.5mm. Also an Abacus Super16mm PL to B4 mount with a Fujinon HD video zoom. I'll post some pix of those lenses when I have the chance.



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Re: Subway To 14th St - Shot on Pocket Camera

PostThu Aug 15, 2013 4:21 am

very cool! if you ever want original not electronic music for stuff like this let me know
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Re: Subway To 14th St - Shot on Pocket Camera

PostThu Aug 15, 2013 4:26 am

Thanks, Steve. Don't care much for that electronic music but it was on the drive and easy...
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Re: Subway To 14th St - Shot on Pocket Camera

PostThu Aug 15, 2013 4:38 am

for sure man! I know how it goes! I have a pretty large backlog of music I have made over the years and never had a use for it, alot of it is ambient and never any words! Most is on the level of any major release. feel free to pm!
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Re: Subway To 14th St - Shot on Pocket Camera

PostThu Aug 15, 2013 12:04 pm

Thanks for the footage! I'm glad to see that there's not much rolling shutter distortions - i can definitely live with that.
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Re: Subway To 14th St - Shot on Pocket Camera

PostThu Aug 15, 2013 12:51 pm

No Hot/dead pixels. I like :D
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Re: Subway To 14th St - Shot on Pocket Camera

PostThu Aug 15, 2013 3:40 pm

That was pretty challenging stuff-- holding camera on rolling and rocking subway car. I as well was amazed at the lack of distortion.

Still need to get some photos posted of rigs and lens combos.

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Re: Subway To 14th St - Shot on Pocket Camera

PostThu Aug 15, 2013 9:04 pm

Not sure what I was expecting from a $1000 camera, but all of the footage so far has been unimpressive (to me).
Hopefully the raw will be better.

Thanks for sharing your results.
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Re: Subway To 14th St - Shot on Pocket Camera

PostThu Aug 15, 2013 9:08 pm

What SD card did you use? Read and write speed?
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Re: Subway To 14th St - Shot on Pocket Camera

PostFri Aug 16, 2013 12:46 am

Theodore Prentice wrote:Not sure what I was expecting from a $1000 camera, but all of the footage so far has been unimpressive (to me).

I believe the revolutionary feature of the BMD cameras is not the "look" of the footage itself, but the range of possibilities the material offers. You only get to be impressed while you do the grading and find that you can tweak the images much further than you are used to.
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Re: Subway To 14th St - Shot on Pocket Camera

PostFri Aug 16, 2013 12:58 am

CharlesB wrote:What SD card did you use? Read and write speed?


SanDisk Extreme 64gb 45MB/s

I would not imagine this card would sustain Raw; that might require the Extreme Pro 90Mb/s. But we won't really know until Blackmagic actually releases Raw.

I have a couple of more pieces that I want to take some time grading. Had to bump my next shoot a day, and that will be a food truck-- so will be a combination of outdoors and inside truck. I most likely will not be editing and grading it.

I agree that what this camera brings to the table is the strength of the codec which will enable more creativity in the grade. And I don't have a problem with a good deal of the footage I have seen.

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Re: Subway To 14th St - Shot on Pocket Camera

PostFri Aug 16, 2013 2:16 am

Mac Jaeger wrote:
Theodore Prentice wrote:Not sure what I was expecting from a $1000 camera, but all of the footage so far has been unimpressive (to me).

I believe the revolutionary feature of the BMD cameras is not the "look" of the footage itself, but the range of possibilities the material offers.


I dont really care what you believe, youre entitled to your opinion, as is everybody else.
The "look" of the original BMCC along with the quality of the codec sure is part of its revolutionary feature..in fact second to its price it IS its revolutionary feature.

Mac Jaeger wrote: You only get to be impressed while you do the grading and find that you can tweak the images much further than you are used to.


I get to be impressed by features that impress me, not tweaking soft footage and pretending its wonderful, when to me, it is not.

Sorry for the hijack Ned.
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Re: Subway To 14th St - Shot on Pocket Camera

PostFri Aug 16, 2013 3:46 am

the problem with the tweaking footage argument is the resolve does not work on almost any stock mac at this point and RAW is not a feature right now. I am sitting on close to 10K of macs bought in the past year, none have the proper graphics card.


However............

I would def consider the bmpcc as a great B cam to my BMCC.

Lastly, the only reason I bought the bmcc over the pocket was the price drop.

thanks for the demos guys, I know the nj subway is rough!

Steve
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Re: Subway To 14th St - Shot on Pocket Camera

PostFri Aug 16, 2013 4:54 am

Ned where do you get your camera from? Abel Cine?
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Re: Subway To 14th St - Shot on Pocket Camera

PostFri Aug 16, 2013 9:09 am

Looks great - well done, and I liked the way you edited it all together. Thanks very much for sharing.

Rob (still waiting for my very own BMPCC!)
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Re: Subway To 14th St - Shot on Pocket Camera

PostFri Aug 16, 2013 9:38 am

the cameras signal does look both noisy and soft.
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Re: Subway To 14th St - Shot on Pocket Camera

PostFri Aug 16, 2013 10:33 am

Steve DiMaggio wrote:the problem with the tweaking footage argument is the resolve does not work on almost any stock mac at this point and RAW is not a feature right now. I am sitting on close to 10K of macs bought in the past year, none have the proper graphics card.


It's not BMD's fault Mac hardware is becoming (more of) a joke.

On topic: Nice looking footage, awful music. Thank you very much for the post.
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Re: Subway To 14th St - Shot on Pocket Camera

PostFri Aug 16, 2013 10:44 am

mjamerson wrote:Ned where do you get your camera from? Abel Cine?


This camera is on loan from Blackmagic for a week for me to write my review. I went to Abel to tinker with lens combinations.

Ned

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