BMCC: Anyone else having no major problems?

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Re: BMCC: Anyone else having no major problems?

PostFri Aug 23, 2013 1:22 am

Yes. Major problem with one of mine (I bought two) is that it doesn't even power on. I literally used the camera twice in the time I've had it. This is a nightmare because it took months upon months of waiting for it to come in, then I get it and a few months later they drop the price by $1,000. Wow.

I know it's a rant, but I wouldn't be so disappointed if my camera didn't crap out on me like it has. The best that BMD support can do is have me pay for shipping, go through the inconvenience of being without the camera which I needed this weekend, and they will kindly pay for return shipping.

Just a load of crap if you ask me. Probably not going to consider more BMD products if they're not built to last.
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PostFri Aug 23, 2013 1:38 am

Theodore Prentice wrote:Hey Paul, very valid question, did you bother to read my response above, where I said Ive had the camera for 6 months and use it on paid gigs, many of which are "for broadcast"?

No, you didnt, instead you chose the path of some of the others here, which is to assume.
Im not insulted, really.

Im not thrilled with some of the "issues" with the camera, the delays, the firmware promises, etc.
Also I think its complete malarky to say the people "complaining" aren't pros, or didn't search, or whatever.. when they have an issue with the camera they purchased.

And honestly I wouldnt give a crap if you thought I was welcome here or not Paul, but thanks for mentioning it :roll:


You try to have a civil conversation with someone and this is what happens. Figures. Anyways, best of luck to you, man. I hope whatever issues you have with the camera get sorted out.
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PostFri Aug 23, 2013 5:34 am

I have been on a few shoots with our bmc and it has been wonderful.
Rock solid. No hangs just fluid recording.

We mostly shoot TV commercials here and for that it is perfect.

Nice small cam that delivers and do not overheat etc.

Currently i see no point considering any other cams in our production.

Specially like the skin tones.

Like baby alexa with reasonable price for small production is just like a tailor made item.
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PostFri Aug 23, 2013 9:35 am

With all my complaining I must agree with @ChrisBarcellos; the image quality, when shot in RAW, is absolutely wonderful... and it was the primary reason I purchased my cameras.

Although I have misgivings regarding the electrical build quality (how well protected/isolated inputs/outputs are) the camera feels solid and so far none of mine have failed.

My gripes are almost entirely firmware-fixable.
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Re: BMCC: Anyone else having no major problems?

PostFri Aug 23, 2013 10:59 am

PaulDelVecchio wrote:You try to have a civil conversation with someone and this is what happens. Figures. Anyways, best of luck to you, man. I hope whatever issues you have with the camera get sorted out.



Paul, you tried to call me out in a round about way, and it backfired. Your question was already answered earlier in the thread. Is this your idea of being civil?

This " I'm not saying you're not welcome here and I'm not telling you to buy another camera".. honestly, so what if you were? Thats what my last statement was in response to.

Civility is a two way street.

Best of luck to you as well.
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PostFri Aug 23, 2013 5:37 pm

I have had no problems of any kind with the camera. It's B camera to my F3 and it runs almost continually on 10 hour location days.
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PostSat Aug 24, 2013 4:40 am

I'm sorry, Theodore Prentice, if you've written rants upon this forum that you feel are "silly, uninformed, outrageous, unreasonable, amateur," but the general idea that most of the complaints I've read here can be attributed to operator error, and publicly complaining about such is amateur, then, ya know...I'm sorry you hate Blackmagic and feel it's your responsibility to hijack what's supposed to be a positive thread. There's plenty of other threads on here that are negative, go nurture those. You're doing no good riling up those of us who actually just want to say (or read) something nice.

All my problems with the cameras can be fixed in firmware. I don't pre-order anything so the wait didn't hurt me, and I've said numerous times I'd rather they spend the time to ship a working camera late than deliver on time a crap camera. I have no intention of "reselling" my camera and can't wait to own several more. Blackmagic has done what they said they would do and created a sub-$3000 camera with an image that rivals $10,000 cameras. That's what I expected and that's what I got.

Are there issues? Sure. Do I have complaints? Sure. But I've said my complaint once. I don't need to say it again and again and again and again. I'm not looking to punish anyone.

I want Blackmagic to feel good about their product so they'll continue to support it. That way I, and others like me, will still get to look forward to more product, more support, more firmware upgrades, more enhancements, etc. If they feel bad about it, they'll probably just stop supporting it and I don't need that in my life. Selfish and forward-looking? Absolutely. I'm sorry you feel so much angst toward a piece of machinery. And honestly, it's hard not to say worse things to people like you, but I try really hard not to...because I'm sick of the negativity and just want it to go away. And all those silly, unreasonable, amateur rants is all anyone gets to see. I'm seriously, honestly, tired of it.

So, pretty please, with sugar on top, go spread your off-topic negativity somewhere else and let those of us who actually have something positive to say the room to say it without having to defend ourselves. For once. Please. Go away. Thanks.
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PostSat Aug 24, 2013 6:05 pm

Aaron Scheiner wrote:"their red flower pot will be corrected in the grade"
Why does it have to be corrected ? Why hasn't this issue been fixed ?


That's not an issue. It's how it's supposed to work. Maybe the camera is little too complex for your needs.
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PostSat Aug 24, 2013 6:37 pm

So I'm brand new to the forum and just purchase the 2.5k 3 weeks ago and I'm pretty happy with it. Not any real problems but it's been out so long I knew exactly what I was getting into and many of the so called problems have been worked out by the real pros who use these everyday. I also got a crash coarse from Kholi so that helped out immensely. I don't see any color problems unless you use a crappy nd. I can pretty much get my colors anywhere I want them in post and we've only shot ProRes so far. I don't know, maybe I'm just easy to please but I was coming from GH2s and before that HVX200s. I was already used to expensive storage. Resolve seems to make my life much easier too!! Maybe the only thing would have been a matte screen or some other space age, hi tech, non glare material we don't know about yet :) No big deal though.
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PostSat Aug 24, 2013 9:14 pm

Jason R. Johnston wrote:I'm sorry you feel so much angst toward a piece of machinery. And honestly, it's hard not to say worse things to people like you, but I try really hard not to....


Oh, the civility and positivitey just ooze out of your posts man..

And your angst towards fellow owners/users of the product is... :roll:

Oh boo hoo for internet hard guy who can talk trash on those he thinks are below him, then cry foul.

Back on topic... Shall we?
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Re: BMCC: Anyone else having no major problems?

PostSat Aug 24, 2013 9:22 pm

I'm shooting weekly with the BMCC and loving it.

I realise many don't but I do feel that the black sun and non-usable audio functions to be major problems with the camera, and I do get frustrated at those.

I can live with no SSD formatting or time remaining and accept them as 'quirks'. Non usable audio recording functions are really bigger than a 'quirk' though, that's my main major problem.

I'm working around using a h4n, but that's really not the point.
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Re: BMCC: Anyone else having no major problems?

PostSun Aug 25, 2013 10:36 am

Vince Gaffney wrote:
Aaron Scheiner wrote:"their red flower pot will be corrected in the grade"
Why does it have to be corrected ? Why hasn't this issue been fixed ?


That's not an issue. It's how it's supposed to work. Maybe the camera is little too complex for your needs.

The camera is supposed to incorrectly render colours ? And by extension it's normal for "complex" cameras to mis-render colours in this way ? Seriously ? lol

I think the BMCC is probably the simplest camera I've ever operated; the firmware lacks the complexities I'm used to because (1) it can shoot raw and (2) it's incomplete.
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Re: BMCC: Anyone else having no major problems?

PostSun Aug 25, 2013 12:37 pm

Aaron Scheiner wrote:
Vince Gaffney wrote:
Aaron Scheiner wrote:"their red flower pot will be corrected in the grade"
Why does it have to be corrected ? Why hasn't this issue been fixed ?


That's not an issue. It's how it's supposed to work. Maybe the camera is little too complex for your needs.

The camera is supposed to incorrectly render colours ? And by extension it's normal for "complex" cameras to mis-render colours in this way ? Seriously ? lol

I think the BMCC is probably the simplest camera I've ever operated; the firmware lacks the complexities I'm used to because (1) it can shoot raw and (2) it's incomplete.


Have you ever seen an RGB parade of Red footage? Have you ever worked with Arri or Sony or Canon Log footage? A negative? Are those mis rendered? In my world grading is part of the process not an inconvenience.
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