In/Out points don't travel from page to page

Greetings,
I'm on v14 release. Set in and out points on the edit page. Change to deliver or Fairlight pages and points are gone. Go back to edit page and they are still there. Is this a setting or intentional?

Cheers!

[Peter Chamberlain]

This is intentional as each page have common elements, like playhead location, and differences to so they more closely suit the traditional operator of that page.

But there's only one person operating the software at any given time, so it doesn't make sense to me that the IO marks aren't retained (or at least have a 'copy marks from edit page' option)?

Minor quibble though

There are different uses for in/out points on the different pages. I'd rather not have the edit page in/out affect the render page in/out.

Yes, Consider the IN / OUT of the Fairlight tab for loop.

For me is more useful to have same In/Out Marks position in every page, but I understand that everyone has its own needs, so I vote for a new option in Preferences.

Bump! This is essential for people actually trying to use Resolve as a NLE, especially for assistant editors who do the bulk of the exporting.

I'm double-checking a reel and spotted a problem in a clip. I mark IN and OUT points around a VFX shot with a bit of context in order to do a simple quicktime export of that clip in order to send it to a facility in order to point out the issue with the shot. There should be a simple way to just export that section without having to make a note of those in and out points and recreate them in the 'Deliver' page.

In fact, it'd be nice if, as in every other NLE, one could mark a section and then "send" it to a delivery/export queue. FCPX has "send to compressor", Premiere Pro has Media Encoder, and one can send sections of a timeline into those export queues without having to go find and mark the relevant portion of the timeline from scratch in a separate export interface.

There should be a simple way to just export that section without having to make a note of those in and out points and recreate them in the 'Deliver' page.

Flag the clip then filter only flagged clips in the deliver page.

I'm assuming Fairlight ranks as the least important tab, outside of post houses with actual plug-ins and hardware that mates to the page. Meanwhile, the definitive attributes associated with the Editing / Grading tabs almost promotes and perpetuates upon one another for additional editing / grading. To think that BM holds an interest in eliminating perpetuity is somewhat troubling; coming from a consumer who's scaled the FCP 5- 7 and Adobe CS - CC walls.

In my work flow, I would find a linking between pages useful as well. Perhaps an entry under the Workspace menu:

"Link Timeline In/Out points across pages."

I for one would prefer that the in out points that i set in the eddit or color pages to default as the same points in the deliver page..or some preference setting to envoke such behavior

I prefer the in/out points to be independent across pages.

It's difficult to match the in out points on the edit & deliver pages due to the deliver page points only being on edit boundaries.

For VFX checking etc. it's easier to just work in the deliver page rather than the edit page. As soon as a problem is spotted the clip can be added to the render queue.

I get that people have different needs, but this should definitely be a setting in user preferences. People are migrating from Premiere, FCP, avid and for them it's just common sense to set your in/outs in the edit page and assume that when you export it will maintain those same settings. I've been using Resolve for a few years but I still find the Delivery page to be a bit cumbersome.

+1 to be a setting in user preferences

I've been editing for 30 years – BBC, ITV etc, and my preference would be to set a default option that the IN & OUT points transfer from the edit page to the delivery page. It's a huge assumption to just decide everyone wants to work another way.

Agree, this bites me every time.

+1

Folks can add their voice below.

viewtopic.php?f=33&t=107537

+1

Bump for visibility. I would love this to be an option. I always set the in/out in the edit or color page, then go to the delivery page and press export. Then I notice the in/out points are for the whole timeline, have to cancel the export and redo the in/out points, then re-export.

Another vote - sitting on one point before moving to deliver is one thing, but having to then go back to edit, move to other point and then back to deliver to mark that is reaaaally annoying.
Just having edit end points visible in Deliver would make me very happy.

Another vote

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WHY ON EARTH HASN'T THIS BEEN SOLVED? I have just spent literally 6 hours recording just a few voice-overs in the fairlight tab. It has been a very long time since I got so frustrated, angry, sad. Especially exporting. Why do I need a deliver page in the first place? I just need a very simple export function in the edit page and choose codec and place to save to. Anyway, the biggest drag of it all is that in and out points in the edit page or in the fairlight page don't travel to this ridiculous deliver page. Who the hell has made this decision? It totally nuts. I hope after all these years this can be changed.

The In/Out points are now universal across all pages in version 17.

But...there's a bug with them on Deliver.

viewtopic.php?f=36&t=128241

In and Out points travel between pages perfectly for me. Is it only on the Windows version where there is an issue?

Yeah, it could be a Windows only issue.

[Shrinivas Ramani]

Hi

Since the last few releases have addressed issues with in-out range persistence, it would be useful if you can post see specific examples of remaining issues of the range not being persisted.

As an example report, this deterministic step-by-step format is useful:
* Load this project (attached)
* Go to the edit page, select this timeline, this clip, mark clip.
* Go to the deliver page, switch to this timeline, switch back.
* The in-outs follow from the previous timeline (as an example).

Thanks in advance
Shrinivas

The difficulty there, Shrivnas, is that the malfunction is...intermittent.

In 17.2.1, I tested three exports with In/Out points set on the Edit page, and all came out fine.

Then I started setting In/Out on other pages and moving among them. The one failure I had was setting In/Out on Fairlight and moving to Edit, which did not reflect the new In/Out I just set but retained the previous In/Out. But that doesn't happen every time.

Today, I set an In/Out on Deliver, and none of the other pages reflected that change.

[Shrinivas Ramani]

Can I check if you set the In-Out when editing a render job? And not on the timeline?

The former is a render-job-specific property. The latter should reflect correctly on other pages.

As Srinivas wrote, the settings in Deliver only apply there. IMHO, that's a correct approach, since you may do test renderings of specific parts, but may not normally need those to carry over. You can even set more than one part from the same timeline and have them separately in the render queue.

Apart from that, it works as expected here. Intermittent bugs are very nasty, though.

[Peter Chamberlain]

The difficulty there, Shrivnas, is that the malfunction is...intermittent.

In 17.2.1, I tested three exports with In/Out points set on the Edit page, and all came out fine.

Then I started setting In/Out on other pages and moving among them. The one failure I had was setting In/Out on Fairlight and moving to Edit, which did not reflect the new In/Out I just set but retained the previous In/Out. But that doesn't happen every time.

Today, I set an In/Out on Deliver, and none of the other pages reflected that change.

Edit page changes should carry to the delivery page when u switch there, but changes made in a delivery render job don’t copy back. If u recall render jobs or change I/O you wouldn’t want those changes to influence your settings back on the other pages.

OK. Knowing that changes to In/Out on Delivery shouldn't carry over is something I can work with.

But I did still have an instance of setting the In/Out on Fairlight not being reflected back on Edit. In fact, it happened again as I'm writing this. But only once. The other tests went fine. So the failures are still...intermittent.

OK. Knowing that changes to In/Out on Delivery shouldn't carry over is something I can work with.

But I did still have an instance of setting the In/Out on Fairlight not being reflected back on Edit. In fact, it happened again as I'm writing this. But only once. The other tests went fine. So the failures are still...intermittent.

I can confirm that they are intermittent.

[Shrinivas Ramani]

Hi Jim, David

Perhaps you can add screenshots of the Fairlight and edit timelines when you see this discrepancy?

It would give us clues like which edit mode is in use, what kind of selections are in effect etc.

Thanks
Shrinivas

In my tests, I was using Selection Mode on all pages and X (Mark Clip) shortcut for setting In/Out points.

I'd just randomly Mark Clip on one page, move to another, randomly Mark Clip again, move to another page, etc.

has this ever been fixed? the timeline should carry over to every page Period!! like everyone else here its a time waster. and yes it needs to carry cover on the delivery page too. Was this fixed in 18? i will not upgrade till they work most of the bugs out.