Please explain Source Patching to me

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Please explain Source Patching to me

PostWed Nov 30, 2022 1:34 pm

Hi there,


I simply don't get it. I've read the reference manual and either I didn't find what I was looking for or I've read past it without noticing.

I'm used to editing with Avid, Premiere and FCP 7 (long time ago) but in Resolve this behaviour is quite different...

Basically what I want to do is edit from a timeline in my source monitor, containing 8 Audio tracks (Sony MXF material).

I want to either edit track 1 or 2 or 3, depending on the audio I need, via 3 point editing techniques.

Problem is: I can only select one source patch (A1) but it still edits ALL 8 tracks into my timeline.

Alternative: When I try copy & paste it somewhat works depending on the auto track selector set, but then appending to the end of the timeline doesn't work and Resolve always jumps back one frame at the end of my timeline. How can I change that behaviour so the playhead stays where I put it?


Thanks in advance
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Re: Please explain Source Patching to me

PostFri Dec 02, 2022 12:43 am

You can't do what you want with Resolve.

You're not the first to complain.
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Re: Please explain Source Patching to me

PostFri Dec 02, 2022 11:27 am

Ah damn...

I need a workaround for that ASAP.

Is there a possibility to switch off the behaviour of the playhead jumping back one frame at the end of the timeline when switching back to it?
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Re: Please explain Source Patching to me

PostFri Dec 02, 2022 10:13 pm

The best option I can think of for now is to use all 8 tracks and Mute/Disable the ones you don't need later when it's time to mix in Fairlight

I don't recall seeing the playhead 'jump back'. Can you provide Steps To Reproduce?
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Re: Please explain Source Patching to me

PostFri Dec 02, 2022 10:28 pm

Have a look at this video from Mary (BMD) - she knows her stuff. It is about channel mapping and Linked Groups which she says sounds boring but it covers 80% of her troubleshooting situations, and I think could be the answer your are looking for.

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Re: Please explain Source Patching to me

PostSat Dec 03, 2022 12:13 am

other alternative is to work directly from your bin instead of a timeline as the track destination with clips works properly since 18.1
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Re: Please explain Source Patching to me

PostSat Dec 03, 2022 11:54 am

Rick van den Berg wrote:other alternative is to work directly from your bin instead of a timeline as the track destination with clips works properly since 18.1



This would need me clicking every single one of all clips. I work with days of footage and have to go quickly through it. So I create stringouts from which I create select reels (from which I do my asembly). I worked this way for the last decade or so (Avid & Premiere mostly) and it's a workflow that keeps my health in check. (Mental as well as my mouse hand)



Jim Simon wrote:The best option I can think of for now is to use all 8 tracks and Mute/Disable the ones you don't need later when it's time to mix in Fairlight

I don't recall seeing the playhead 'jump back'. Can you provide Steps To Reproduce?



Yes, sure, do the following:

Put something in your source viewer (Timeline Source) and something in your program viewer (Timeline Destination. Now go to the end of your Destination Timeline. When I now want to switch to the source timeline (timeline --> swap timeline and source viewer, I've mapped that to a button), do my ins and outs and switch back, my destination timeline playhead jumped back one frame. If I could switch that off, we can close this thread, since I already have a workaround for the source patching behavior.
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Re: Please explain Source Patching to me

PostSat Dec 03, 2022 2:35 pm

Darryl wrote:Have a look at this video from Mary (BMD) - she knows her stuff. It is about channel mapping and Linked Groups which she says sounds boring but it covers 80% of her troubleshooting situations, and I think could be the answer your are looking for.




Thanks for that video, I definitely learned a few new things, it's still quite a huge workaround that would take way too much time to keep editing efficiently. I'd have to do this for hundreds of clips which just is out of my turnaround.
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Re: Please explain Source Patching to me

PostSat Dec 03, 2022 5:01 pm

What changed in 18.1, Rick? I'm not aware.

How does one choose to use, for example, only channels 3 and 4 of a 8 track clip without creating additional tracks in the timeline?
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Re: Please explain Source Patching to me

PostSun Dec 04, 2022 10:02 am

track destination was always working for clips with just one mono or stereo channel, but not for clips with multiple audio channels. Now it's working for all clips. it's now also possible to have a shortcut to select all track destinations on and off at the same time. baby steps, but i hope BMD will keep it up with these "little" improvements
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Re: Please explain Source Patching to me

PostSun Dec 04, 2022 4:41 pm

I'm not sure Track Destination would apply here, though, as you would need all 8 tracks in the timeline to control which tracks of the clip get used, no?

If the timeline has only two tracks, I'm not aware of any way to use only two tracks of an eight track clip. Resolve will always create the other six timeline tracks, won't it?
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