macOS Ventura + Resolve/BMD hardware: Compatibility Notes

The only topic I found on this forum about Resolve and macOS Ventura was specifically on the M1 https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=169655&hilit=ventura, and full of "why would you upgrade" replies. So, how about we dispense with the "you're a dummy to upgrade" wisdom, and just get to the nitty gritty. We all know you should back up first, and we all know you can make a clone of your HD for a dual boot system, and we all know you shouldn't upgrade in the middle of a big project.

Let's compile any KNOWN issues with either Resolve or BMD hardware (ATEMs, capture cards, thunderbolt devices) with macOS Ventura. As of this writing, Ventura has not hit a dot-release and is currently sitting at v13.0

If you have upgraded to macOS Ventura and can report successes or failures with BMD hardware or software, please let us know below!

From the aforementioned post, just a few days ago, Info Schmoll wrote:

Apparently both the Deck Link cards and 4K Studio mini hardware is currently NOT COMPATIBLE with the current official release version of Ventura. It would actually be a lot nicer if BM themselves would warn of incompatibilities like this due to beta testing new OS versions, but since they dont this forum seems the only way to figure it out before making a mistake. It seems OS betas these days are often not utilized by software developers to get their software up to par in time, but rather for regular users to test and find out these issues. I find that practice pretty bad though

For reference, as of this writing, Desktop Video (for DeckLink and most capture hardware) is at v12.4 (14-July-2022) and ATEM is at 8.10 (21-Oct-2022).

MacBook M1 Max, MacOS Ventura 13.0, Resolve Studio 18.0.4

Speed Editor works via both BlueTooth and USB-C. No obvious hiccups noted thus far.

See this one too: viewtopic.php?f=21&t=170274

I see no need to update to Ventura until 2023.

I updated to Ventura on my 2019 Mac Pro. Resolve 18.04 works fine but none of my Blackmagic hardware worked. I have connected a Mini Panel, Ultra Studio 4k Mini and a SDI to HDMI 6K mini converter.

None of which communicated with my computer.

Black Magic Converter setup worked and showed the mini converter but Desktop video failed to detect my ultrastudio.

After chatting with BM Support we generated an SPX file to have a closer look and saw the fault was Ventura loading the drivers for the internal Apple devices. Eg; My Thunderbolt adaptors in theory won't be able to detect USB devices.

So I'm going to back up tomorrow and re-install Ventura as it could just be a dud install.

Will keep you posted!

I see no need to update to Ventura until 2023.

more likely mid 2023 ; -)

And probably another one, with the Proxy Generator: viewtopic.php?f=21&t=170271

Ventura broke output refresh rate for the BMD output to my ATEM video switcher, no more 60hz. Going to try to use cscreen to see if I can force 60hz back into the list.

Edit: So I installed macos Monterey on a separate volume and it runs fine, which leads me to believe that it is definitely a Ventura issue. Could use a signal rescaler, but I'll just stick to macos 12 for now.

Uggh. Updated to Ventura without thinking to try and solve a problem with Apple Music. I'm on an M1 and DR is now almost unusable. It hangs and crashes every few minutes. Unfortunately, I did not back up so I'm stuck in a worst case scenario.

Uggh. Updated to Ventura without thinking to try and solve a problem with Apple Music. I'm on an M1 and DR is now almost unusable. It hangs and crashes every few minutes. Unfortunately, I did not back up so I'm stuck in a worst case scenario.

Ugh. Did you update to 18.1? On my M1 MacBook Air, Resolve 18.1 and macOS Ventura seem to be behaving nicely. Obviously I don’t have the PCIe cards to contend with like I do on my Mac Pro, so it’s a different kettle of fish, but at least one system is just fine with Ventura and Resolve.

Yes, I'm running 18.1. The problem really seems to be with memory, render cache and fusion effects. In other words, anything memory intensive. That's where the problems are. I feel like I'm back on my old PC and have lost all M1 benefits.

Yes, I'm running 18.1. The problem really seems to be with memory, render cache and fusion effects. In other words, anything memory intensive. That's where the problems are. I feel like I'm back on my old PC and have lost all M1 benefits.

Very odd; it’s performing great on my M1. Maybe reinstall Resolve?

Thanks Joe, I guess I will try that before doing a factory reset on the M1.

Resolve currently cannot even render out a project without crashing. I guess I know what I'll be doing over the holiday.

EDIT: Joe, I think I owe you one. I reinstalled 18.1 and it seems to be behaving normally now!

Thanks Joe, I guess I will try that before doing a factory reset on the M1.

Resolve currently cannot even render out a project without crashing. I guess I know what I'll be doing over the holiday.

EDIT: Joe, I think I owe you one. I reinstalled 18.1 and it seems to be behaving normally now!

Amazing! That's great to hear.
-Joseph

I updated to Ventura on my 2019 Mac Pro. Resolve 18.04 works fine but none of my Blackmagic hardware worked. I have connected a Mini Panel, Ultra Studio 4k Mini and a SDI to HDMI 6K mini converter.

None of which communicated with my computer.

Black Magic Converter setup worked and showed the mini converter but Desktop video failed to detect my ultrastudio.

After chatting with BM Support we generated an SPX file to have a closer look and saw the fault was Ventura loading the drivers for the internal Apple devices. Eg; My Thunderbolt adaptors in theory won't be able to detect USB devices.

So I'm going to back up tomorrow and re-install Ventura as it could just be a dud install.

Will keep you posted!

Hi,

Did you get any news about this ?
I have currently purchased an UltraStudio 4K Mini but cannot get it recognised on my MacBook Pro 2018 running the last version of MacOS Ventura.

Thank you for your support !

Brand new Mac user here. Mac Studio M1 Max base model with 64 GB ram, 1 TB internal SSD. I have Resolve Studio 18.1.1 running on the latest version of Ventura. Speed Editor via bluetooth works perfectly as far as I can tell. Mini Monitor 3G via thunderbolt goes into SDI to HDMI converter with installed calibration LUT into external reference screen, also working great so far. Had one hiccup today where Resolve did not seem to find it. Just unplugged and replugged the mini monitor, restarted resolve and everything worked again, so no biggy. Mini Panel via USB is working fine so far, I think it lost connection once the other day, but a simple off on fixed that too for me. I do have strange quirk with color management at the moment, posted about it here, but since it's not really BMD hardware related, I won't list it here too. Hope this helps!

Resolve 18.1.1 on M1 Studio Max on Ventura with Mini Monitor 4K in a Flex8 box over thunderbolt (and Mini panel and Resolve keyboard). Absolutely unusable - constant crashing in the edit window every few mins, can't even review footage. Yeah, yeah, I upgraded but been testing it (Ventura) for a while on the MacBook M1 Pro for a while without issues.

Resolve 18.1.1 on M1 Studio Max on Ventura with Mini Monitor 4K in a Flex8 box over thunderbolt (and Mini panel and Resolve keyboard). Absolutely unusable - constant crashing in the edit window every few mins, can't even review footage. Yeah, yeah, I upgraded but been testing it (Ventura) for a while on the MacBook M1 Pro for a while without issues.

How does it work without the Flex8 box? I understand that’s not ideal, but since you crash every few minutes, it seems that’d be an easy test to see if that’s the culprit?

May be off topic, but I have an ATEM Mini Pro and have recently upgraded to OS Ventura. Trying to live stream a concert, I could not get YouTube to recognize the ATEM software when I went on air. I did absolutely nothing different from previous broadcasts, and the only variable I can think of is Ventura. Am I off base here, or is there a compatibility issue?

Help!!

Tim

May be off topic, but I have an ATEM Mini Pro and have recently upgraded to OS Ventura. Trying to live stream a concert, I could not get YouTube to recognize the ATEM software when I went on air. I did absolutely nothing different from previous broadcasts, and the only variable I can think of is Ventura. Am I off base here, or is there a compatibility issue?

Help!!

Tim

I seriously doubt it has anything to do with Ventura. The ATEM software doesn't actually do anything when it comes to streaming. That's all in the ATEM itself. All the software does is send commands to the ATEM to set it up.

I see that Desktop Video 12.4.2 is now out (Dec 8 2022) and lists macOS Ventura. Perhaps it's finally time to upgrade… heck, maybe it'll solve my Resolve crashes (ha, right).

Hi, I'm a newbie on this forum. I read the subject of the post about Blackmagic software/hardware incompatibility with MacOS Ventura on Mac M1 (I have a Mini M1).
In particular my Intensity Shuttle usb 3.0 worked with MacOS Monterey but after upgrade to Ventura Blackmagic DeskTopVideo ver. 12.4.2 no longer recognizes the hardware.
Same thing with MacBook Air (ver. 6.1 i7 8 GB) with MacOS Catalina Intensity Shuttle worked and after upgrade to MacOS BigSur it is no longer recognized.
Is it worth downgrading macOS?

i have an issue with a pcie mini recorder in combination with ventura 13.1 ( 22C65 )...while i dont installed the BMD software before, the card was just recognized, after installing the software, the device driver is not loaded and of course not recognized anymore...any suggestion to turn it back on?

Hi, I'm a newbie on this forum. I read the subject of the post about Blackmagic software/hardware incompatibility with MacOS Ventura on Mac M1 (I have a Mini M1).
In particular my Intensity Shuttle usb 3.0 worked with MacOS Monterey but after upgrade to Ventura Blackmagic DeskTopVideo ver. 12.4.2 no longer recognizes the hardware.
Same thing with MacBook Air (ver. 6.1 i7 8 GB) with MacOS Catalina Intensity Shuttle worked and after upgrade to MacOS BigSur it is no longer recognized.
Is it worth downgrading macOS?

Old post now, but the Shuttle is ancient, isn’t it? Worth checking the driver compatibility list to see what driver still supports it, and what macOS that driver is made for.

i have an issue with a pcie mini recorder in combination with ventura 13.1 ( 22C65 )...while i dont installed the BMD software before, the card was just recognized, after installing the software, the device driver is not loaded and of course not recognized anymore...any suggestion to turn it back on?

I’d reinstall the driver, starting with an uninstall, if a simple reboot doesn’t fix it.

thanks for your reply...unfourtunately, a simple un -and reinstall does not help.
the card is not beeing recognized. i test the card in an old 5,1 mac pro ( running OS X Mavericks ) and the card does work just fine, so i assume its not an hardware problem.

EDIT:

following two terminal commands do the job...

- Install Desktop Video 12.4.2

- Open a Terminal Window...

- Execute: sudo mv /Library/Application\ Support/Blackmagic\ Design/Blackmagic\ DeckLink/Signed\ Extensions/BlackmagicIO.kext /Library/Extensions (this will copy: BlackmagicIO.kext to /Library/Extensions)

- Reboot

- Execute another command in Terminal: sudo kextutil /Library/Extensions/BlackmagicIO.kext

following two terminal commands do the job...

- Install Desktop Video 12.4.2

- Open a Terminal Window...

- Execute: sudo mv /Library/Application\ Support/Blackmagic\ Design/Blackmagic\ DeckLink/Signed\ Extensions/BlackmagicIO.kext /Library/Extensions (this will copy: BlackmagicIO.kext to /Library/Extensions)

- Reboot

- Execute another command in Terminal: sudo kextutil /Library/Extensions/BlackmagicIO.kext

Dang… can you elaborate on what those commands are doing?

the first will move the kext to its corect position because it looks like that the installer doesn't.
the second should rebuild the kext cache...

Hello everyone, I'm an amateur so sorry if my post disturbs,
I use a black magic television studio console (HD I think), since I did the ventura update on my 2020 macbook pro, my black magic does not recognize my input source ... I am in 1080p50. However when I try with another computer there is no problem. Can anyone help me please??
THANKS !

Upgraded to Ventura 13.2.1. I am running analog video playback machines through a analog to SDI Mini Converter and then to a UltraStudio 4K to my iMac via Thunderbolt 2-3 converter. Currently, the Mac recognizes the UltraStudio and the Mini Converter and Media Express recognizes the Ultra Studio as a device. However, when playing a video and attempting to capture it with Media express, there is no signal or recognition that a video signal is available to capture. UltraStudio won't even let me manually select SDI as an input with embedded audio. Media Express is 3.8.1, Desktop video is 12.4.2 and Mini Converters are 8.0. This all worked fine until I switched to Ventura which was mandated by my employer. Is this simply an issue with Ventura or something else? Any thoughts are appreciated.

Upgraded to Ventura 13.2.1. I am running analog video playback machines through a analog to SDI Mini Converter and then to a UltraStudio 4K to my iMac via Thunderbolt 2-3 converter. Currently, the Mac recognizes the UltraStudio and the Mini Converter and Media Express recognizes the Ultra Studio as a device. However, when playing a video and attempting to capture it with Media express, there is no signal or recognition that a video signal is available to capture. UltraStudio won't even let me manually select SDI as an input with embedded audio. Media Express is 3.8.1, Desktop video is 12.4.2 and Mini Converters are 8.0. This all worked fine until I switched to Ventura which was mandated by my employer. Is this simply an issue with Ventura or something else? Any thoughts are appreciated.

The only suggestion I have is to try the Desktop Video clean-up technique described above:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=170330&p=935223#p916983

FWIW: Reporting Success with the following specs:

Mac Pro 2019 Ventura 13.3.1
DaVinci Resolve 18.1.4
DeckLink Mini Monitor 4K 12.4

I didn't have to do any kext or terminal fixes. Just a plain vanilla upgrade to Ventura in April 2023. I get playback and normal functionality with simple upgrade.

It seems if everything works under Monterey, upgrading to Ventura doesn’t ruin it.
But the problems arise if you start installing Desktop Video under Ventura, due to the very strict security.

The only suggestion I have is to try the Desktop Video clean-up technique described above:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=170330&p=935223#p916983

Hello,
Still have the same problem and looking for some help!

Desktop Video Setup v.12.4.2 does not recognize my UltraStudio4Kmini. The US4KM is connected to my Mac (MacbookProM1Max 16in 64Gb 4Tb Ventura 13.3.1) via Thunderbolt 3. The Mac's 'System report' recognizes the device and provides all information on it: Blackmagic Design / UltraStudio 4K Mini / Thunderbolt 3 / v.18.1 / 40Gbits/s. But Desktop Video Setup detects nothing. I have uninstalled version 12.4.2 of DVSetup and tried version 12.4.1, but to no avail. I have also reinstalled Ventura, but it didn't help. I attempted to move the BlackmagicIO.kext driver to the Extensions library through Terminal, but I received an error message saying "Error Domain=KMErrorDomain Code=71 "Incompatible architecture: Binary is for x86_64, but needed arch arm64e
Unsupported Error: one or more extensions are unsupported to load "

I have submitted a service ticket via email to BM's technical support, but I haven't received any response (or even an acknowledgement of my service request).

Any ideas?

Marc

MacBookProM1Max 16in 64Gb 4To
Ventura 13.3.1
Resolve 18.1
UltraStudio4K Mini
Davinci Resolve Speed Editor
BMPCC4K
ATOMOS NEON 24in SDI
BenQ PD3200U 32in

I just installed DTV on some brand new M2 minis (Ventura) for use with the US4KM and had no issues. Did you go back to security settings and allow access? I did notice when clicking around that there are several Blackmagic processes running in the background. It should work, sorry I can't offer concrete help but they were client machines, I'm still on Intel.

Good Luck

Thank you, Howard, for following up. Yes, I did authorize the activation of Blackmagic extensions during the reinstallation of Desktop Video Setup in the Security tab of the Mac's System Preferences panel. I don't understand why DVS suddenly stopped recognizing the UltraStudio4KMini. I opened a project in Resolve, and the monitor wasn't connected. I checked Resolve's system settings and realized that Resolve didn't recognize the UltraStudio4KMini image monitoring device. I opened DVS, but with no luck. I checked the Mac's system report and confirmed that the Thunderbolt connection was working. From there, I couldn't find any way to restore the device detection in DVS.

Same specs as bobbydp, but without the same success, obviously...

FWIW: Reporting Success with the following specs:

Mac Pro 2019 Ventura 13.3.1
DaVinci Resolve 18.1.4
DeckLink Mini Monitor 4K 12.4

Any help would be greatly appreciated in exchange for my eternal (or almost eternal) gratitude.

Marc

Hi,

For those who have the same problem and are still, like me, waiting for a solution from BM's technical support, here is a temporary solution I have to offer. The solution is based on my own experience, but it at least allows me to work. Maybe it will be useful to you.

Problem: Desktop Video v12.4.2 application on macOS Ventura v13.3.1, v13.3.1(a), and v13.4 does not recognize monitoring devices such as the UltraStudio 4K Mini due to the new security features of macOS Ventura and the handling of application security certificates (even for applications provided by identified developers).

Solution:
Uninstall Desktop Video using the ''Uninstall Desktop Video'' application available in the Blackmagic Desktop Video folder.
Reboot.
Search fot the latest version of ''Blackmagic Desktop Video'' from the Blackmagic Design Support Center website (https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/support/). Go to Desktop Video v12.4.2 - 8th Dec 2022.
Download.
Install.
Authorize the activation of Blackmagic extensions during the installation of Desktop Video v12.4.2 in the Security tab of the Mac's System Preferences panel.
Reboot.
Open DVSv12.4.2. No device will be recognized by the program, meaning no device is connected.
Then, from your main Macintosh HD, open the ''Macintosh HD/Library/Application Support/Blackmagic Design/Blackmagic DeckLink'' folder.
In the ''Blackmagic DeckLink'' folder, run the ''DesktopVideoHelper'' file in Terminal. Just double-click on it. Once the file is executed in Terminal, your monitoring device will appear and be added to the list of devices detected by DVSv12.4.2.
Close Terminal.

Every time you log in to macOS, boot or reboot the computer, you will need to re-run the ''DesktopVideoHelper'' file in the Blackmagic DeckLink folder. To make it easier, just create an alias in the parent folder and copy/move the alias on your desktop or in the application folder where is your DVSv12.4.2 program.
When you open the program, simply click on the alias of the ''DesktopVideoHelper'' file to display the monitoring devices such as the UltraStudio 4K Mini... until the next update of Desktop Video or any other solution provided by the Blackmagic technical support team. Soon. I hope.

Best regards,
Marc

So glad to have banned Ventura to my sandbox system.
Maybe Apple wants to appeal to government authorities or banks, but for the rest of us it’s a PITA.
No issues at all here with Monterey, I’ll stick to it as long as I can.

It seems you could move the app to the Login Items and save the trouble of relaunching on each re-boot. Then again you may just need to allow the background processes, I have them off.

This is the page I was looking for. I don't know what these files are or what they do. They seem to correlate to the Blackmagic launchdaemon and launchhelper files in the Library.

There's a rabbit hole of background processes, I try not to dig too deep.

Good Luck

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It seems you could move the app to the Login Items and save the trouble of relaunching on each re-boot.

Thank you Howard for the advice.
I added the DesktopVideoHelper file to the list of programs run at login, and it works perfectly.

As far as I'm concerned, the issue is resolved.

Let's keep it in mind, as I believe we might need to revisit it in the next update of Ventura or Desktop Video.

Thank you!

Marc

Thanks so much for this solution, I was pulling my hair out until I found this discussion.

Solution:
Uninstall Desktop Video using the ''Uninstall Desktop Video'' application available in the Blackmagic Desktop Video folder.
Reboot.
Search fot the latest version of ''Blackmagic Desktop Video'' from the Blackmagic Design Support Center website (https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/support/). Go to Desktop Video v12.4.2 - 8th Dec 2022.
Download.
Install.
Authorize the activation of Blackmagic extensions during the installation of Desktop Video v12.4.2 in the Security tab of the Mac's System Preferences panel.
Reboot.
Open DVSv12.4.2. No device will be recognized by the program, meaning no device is connected.
Then, from your main Macintosh HD, open the ''Macintosh HD/Library/Application Support/Blackmagic Design/Blackmagic DeckLink'' folder.
In the ''Blackmagic DeckLink'' folder, run the ''DesktopVideoHelper'' file in Terminal. Just double-click on it. Once the file is executed in Terminal, your monitoring device will appear and be added to the list of devices detected by DVSv12.4.2.
Close Terminal.

Doesn't work for me on:

MacBook Pro, 14-inch, 2023
Apple M2 Pro
macOS 13.5.1
Resove 18.5.1 BUILD 6
Desktop Video 12.5

I’d try using the finder to delete all the Blackmagic files from library as well as deleting desktop video. Just don’t delete your Resolve DB. I installed DV on 2 m2 minis and IIRC there was a popup that asked if I wanted to allow Blackmagic permission for something and I clicked no by accident. The US4k wouldn’t connect on that machine until I deleted everythin and started over. These were brand new machines with no other software so be cautious.

Good Luck

Second that. If you don't follow all those messages, the security measures in Ventura can be serious PITA.

UPDATE

It was my mistake, I don't have the new 3G version of the Ultrastudio Monitor, but the old Thunderbolt 2 one.
I got the new 3G version now and I can confirm: with the Blackmagic UltraStudio Monitor 3G everything works flawless again.

My signal chain is MacBook Pro M2 > TB4 cable > UltraStudio Monitor 3G > HDMI cable > EIZO monitor