Affordable Battery Solution?

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Krikor Kouchian

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Re: Affordable Battery Solution?

PostWed Jul 10, 2013 8:34 am

Rudy Satria wrote:Krikorola,

I just tested using 9-12v output with a custom cable. Just like what i thought, it gave me 1,5 hours. could be less or more it depends on how much your internal battery life. Make sure it a 100% or it will drain your energizer faster.

But i will use it for my upcoming project while waiting for my professional one. Having 3 or 4 pieces of xp8000 could safe your production the whole day.

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with the 19v, my wife told me it worked for 2h, then less than one hour on the internal one.
as those re very compact i think it is a good solution, not so expensive.
do you thin professional ones will last longer? not so sure about that, except if you get very high AH ones.
i will do some more testing when she is back.
from what she told me the internal doesn't stand one hour.
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Re: Affordable Battery Solution?

PostWed Jul 10, 2013 8:39 am

Depends what you consider professional ones. 75 w/ah ones would also run some 2 is rate. 190 wh will run a bit more.

It really depends on the battery capacity.

On car battery you could run probably days :D
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Re: Affordable Battery Solution?

PostWed Jul 10, 2013 8:46 am

Margus Voll wrote:Depends what you consider professional ones. 75 w/ah ones would also run some 2 is rate. 190 wh will run a bit more.

It really depends on the battery capacity.

On car battery you could run probably days :D


yes, i saw that but then higher AH ones are bigger too. For us I think it's better to get small ones, 2 hour is a good timing. For her use i think two XP8000 will do it. The XP18000 could be a good solution for people who want more time!
i always have a weird feeling about the "professional" labels, i mean it's lithium battery, that's it, and i'm not sure the cells come from a different factory than the energizer ones....
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Re: Affordable Battery Solution?

PostWed Jul 10, 2013 9:00 am

Professional comes from standardized connections that are widely available so you could interchange
simply, fast and reliably.

Setup that i made is all custom. So it will work for me but not to the other person.

That is the main difference.

And professional stuff do not blow up or make fire most of the time.
This is why i ended putting some silicone on my battery terminals. 20 amps could introduce nice fire
if shorted :D

Also what you have to consider is additional gear: evf, monitors, audio stuff.
They all will eat up your initial 2 hour mark and leave you maybe say 40 minutes or less.

So geting pro batteries have a lot of advantages despite their price.

If you earn money with them then time is essential. If you are hobbyist then your time cost nothing and you can build or use what ever you like that is in specs.
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Re: Affordable Battery Solution?

PostWed Jul 10, 2013 4:23 pm

krikorola wrote:
with the 19v, my wife told me it worked for 2h, then less than one hour on the internal one.
as those re very compact i think it is a good solution, not so expensive.
do you thin professional ones will last longer? not so sure about that, except if you get very high AH ones.
i will do some more testing when she is back.
from what she told me the internal doesn't stand one hour.


i have tested both. it doesn't stand for 2 hours at least for me. pro battery surely will give u more longer than 2 hours, i saw people out there using at least "bescor" can stand for 4 hours almost like PB70. the XP18000 could give u more longer than XP8000 but the size will give u pain.
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Re: Affordable Battery Solution?

PostWed Jul 10, 2013 7:09 pm

Rudy Satria wrote:i have tested both. it doesn't stand for 2 hours at least for me.

2:40h with the 30$ battery I posted on page 1 of this thread. Is pretty neat IMHO :)
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Re: Affordable Battery Solution?

PostWed Jul 10, 2013 9:46 pm

CameraRick wrote:2:40h with the 30$ battery I posted on page 1 of this thread. Is pretty neat IMHO :)


i really want that stuff!
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Re: Affordable Battery Solution?

PostThu Jul 11, 2013 1:48 am

CameraRick wrote:
Rudy Satria wrote:i have tested both. it doesn't stand for 2 hours at least for me.

2:40h with the 30$ battery I posted on page 1 of this thread. Is pretty neat IMHO :)



this sound so nice! and no problems at all? only need another cable as written...
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Re: Affordable Battery Solution?

PostThu Jul 11, 2013 7:45 am

CameraRick wrote:I just tested this little battery: http://www.ebay.com/itm/360507624892

You have to solder a new cable (the provided one has is 5.5 x 2.1mm, you need 5.5 x 2.5mm on the BMCC), yet polarity and all already fits.
Powers the BMCC around 2 hours and 40 minutes (w/o touching internal battery of course), which I think is really fair regarding the price. Weights around 250g, so not heavy and really portable too.


can you post the pict of this one? the listing can't be access from france.
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Re: Affordable Battery Solution?

PostThu Jul 11, 2013 8:07 am

krikorola wrote:
CameraRick wrote:I just tested this little battery: http://www.ebay.com/itm/360507624892

You have to solder a new cable (the provided one has is 5.5 x 2.1mm, you need 5.5 x 2.5mm on the BMCC), yet polarity and all already fits.
Powers the BMCC around 2 hours and 40 minutes (w/o touching internal battery of course), which I think is really fair regarding the price. Weights around 250g, so not heavy and really portable too.


can you post the pict of this one? the listing can't be access from france.


Don't know if it's ok to post product-pictures here, but you can do a google picture search for
"DC 12V/6500MA 9V/8500MA 5V/15000MA Rechargeable Li-ion Battery Pack for CCTV Cam" and should get similiar results than I do, hopefully.

Or, if you're on PC, you can use mozilla and a plugin like stealthy to reach that site.
https://www.gernemehrfilm.de/
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Re: Affordable Battery Solution?

PostThu Jul 11, 2013 8:22 am

thanks, i found those while doing the search, they could be a very good alternative:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-Portable-98 ... 0820897853

they are only 12v, a bit bigger, but they have a higher AH.
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Re: Affordable Battery Solution?

PostThu Jul 11, 2013 8:30 am

This charger does not seem to have any controller. I'd be super careful with those.

Big battery can make big fire if charged not properly.
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Re: Affordable Battery Solution?

PostThu Jul 11, 2013 11:31 am

I actually don't care for higher Ah, as in most cheaper batterys this isn't someting to rely on anyway.
I like these batterys because the design is slick, they are light (around 260g) and do have more then one output. e.g., aside from the BMCC, I can also power a SDI->HDMI converter box over the 5V USB port.
The design with plugs rather then an attached cable fits me better; also the charger is nice, it provides an LED indicating when carging is done (takes a while though).

So far I'm happy, yet I can not say from a 2yr experience how long they whill have their capacity of course. And yes, no issues, only a different cable is needed (this battery has 5.5x2.1mm, BMCC needs 5.5x2.5mm).

Random benefit: can charge my cellphone over USB, too :D
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Re: Affordable Battery Solution?

PostSat Jul 13, 2013 6:42 pm

So what would be the best v-mount battery for around $300? Also, on the lanparte distribution plate, can there be v-mount batteries added to it? I noticed that it seems to take A-Mount type of batteries.
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Re: Affordable Battery Solution?

PostFri Jul 19, 2013 5:58 pm

CameraRick wrote:I actually don't care for higher Ah, as in most cheaper batterys this isn't someting to rely on anyway.
I like these batterys because the design is slick, they are light (around 260g) and do have more then one output. e.g., aside from the BMCC, I can also power a SDI->HDMI converter box over the 5V USB port.
The design with plugs rather then an attached cable fits me better; also the charger is nice, it provides an LED indicating when carging is done (takes a while though).

So far I'm happy, yet I can not say from a 2yr experience how long they whill have their capacity of course. And yes, no issues, only a different cable is needed (this battery has 5.5x2.1mm, BMCC needs 5.5x2.5mm).

Random benefit: can charge my cellphone over USB, too :D


How about the quality so far you are using it?
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Re: Affordable Battery Solution?

PostTue Jul 23, 2013 10:15 am

Rudy Satria wrote:
CameraRick wrote:I actually don't care for higher Ah, as in most cheaper batterys this isn't someting to rely on anyway.
I like these batterys because the design is slick, they are light (around 260g) and do have more then one output. e.g., aside from the BMCC, I can also power a SDI->HDMI converter box over the 5V USB port.
The design with plugs rather then an attached cable fits me better; also the charger is nice, it provides an LED indicating when carging is done (takes a while though).

So far I'm happy, yet I can not say from a 2yr experience how long they whill have their capacity of course. And yes, no issues, only a different cable is needed (this battery has 5.5x2.1mm, BMCC needs 5.5x2.5mm).

Random benefit: can charge my cellphone over USB, too :D


How about the quality so far you are using it?

So far really good, but I have a hard time testing as my Cam is in RMA for a while now... :)
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Re: Affordable Battery Solution?

PostTue Jul 23, 2013 12:30 pm

Thanks Rick, i already bought two of them from ebay. Can't wait to try out :D
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Re: Affordable Battery Solution?

PostSat Nov 16, 2013 6:25 am

can anyone that use the xp8000 or xp18000, how do you charge the camera? using the USB cable or need to make a cable, any instruction?
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Re: Affordable Battery Solution?

PostSat Nov 16, 2013 6:43 am

how about this one?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/9 ... l_Rod.html


... if you still have some SONY L series batteries

but it doesn't say it's for bmcc or bmpcc
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Re: Affordable Battery Solution?

PostSun Nov 17, 2013 10:53 pm

Hi
I bought this motorcycle battery, it is very lightweight as it is Lithium Ion and last a looong time.
http://www.polo-motorrad.de/de/lithium- ... 46309.html
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Re: Affordable Battery Solution?

PostMon Nov 18, 2013 4:37 am

uffe wrote:Hi
I bought this motorcycle battery, it is very lightweight as it is Lithium Ion and last a looong time.
http://www.polo-motorrad.de/de/lithium- ... 46309.html



Be VERY VERY CAREFUL NOT to short this battery! You might even want to put a fuse between the battery and whatever connection(s) you make because the 15A this battery will put out in the event of an accidental short will fuse your undwear to your ass.
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