Slow redrawing of thumbnails on timeline.

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Phil Side

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Slow redrawing of thumbnails on timeline.

PostFri Jun 10, 2016 11:57 am

One of the major delays I have when using Resolve is that whenever I zoom in or out of the timeline, there is a pause of a few seconds while the thumbnails are redrawn on the timeline. Is there a way to speed this up? I don't know if it's that the generation of the thumbnails is genuinely a slow process, or if it is symptomatic of something else.

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Re: Slow redrawing of thumbnails on timeline.

PostFri Jun 10, 2016 12:41 pm

I have the same issue. I wonder if it's to do with re-drawing audio waveforms? I can zoom in/out more swiftly with just video tracks, but video/audio tracks become very sluggish during editing when zoomed in.

My machine is fast in other scenarios and I have no trouble editing and colouring RAW projects without transcoding, so it's frustrating to be waiting 2-3 seconds each time I make any small adjustments to a zoomed-in timeline.
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Re: Slow redrawing of thumbnails on timeline.

PostFri Jun 10, 2016 9:29 pm

Are you on 12.5?
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Re: Slow redrawing of thumbnails on timeline.

PostFri Jun 10, 2016 11:39 pm

Yes. 12.5 studio.
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Re: Slow redrawing of thumbnails on timeline.

PostSat Jun 11, 2016 7:58 pm

Avid had a similar problem with Media Composer with very slow refreshes of the timeline due to redrawing the audio wave form until they cached it in Version 7. Not sure if this issue is related to Resolve.

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Re: Slow redrawing of thumbnails on timeline.

PostSun Jun 12, 2016 8:14 am

In my case, it's definitely the thumbnails, rather than the waveform. It's slow even with the waveforms turned off, but if set it to not display thumbnails, the problem goes away.
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Re: Slow redrawing of thumbnails on timeline.

PostSun Jun 12, 2016 8:49 am

When you set the timeline to not display thumbnails, markers don't display either.
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Re: Slow redrawing of thumbnails on timeline.

PostMon Jun 13, 2016 1:38 am

Are these UHD clips on HD timeline?
What source codec?
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Re: Slow redrawing of thumbnails on timeline.

PostMon Jun 13, 2016 8:47 am

Yes. They are a mixture of UHD and HD on an HD timeline. The codec is XAVC-S.
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Re: Slow redrawing of thumbnails on timeline.

PostMon Jun 13, 2016 11:28 am

Ah, my guess is the CPU is very busy decoding the compressed xavc. If you make optimized media to dnx that will be faster.
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Re: Slow redrawing of thumbnails on timeline.

PostMon Jun 13, 2016 5:51 pm

Yes, it's clear that they are regenerating the thumbnails constantly. Not great for files with intraframe compression. Caching them would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Slow redrawing of thumbnails on timeline.

PostTue Jun 14, 2016 12:48 am

Have a look for Optimised media in the manual.
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Re: Slow redrawing of thumbnails on timeline.

PostThu Jun 24, 2021 4:11 pm

When I zoom the timeline, Resolve starts to re-generate all the clip thumbnails. It takes a lot of time. That makes it almost impossible to work in Resolve since it freezes the system.



I think thumbnails should be cached someway.

PS: "Save Timeline Thumbnails With Project" and "Optimized Media" don't help at all in my case.
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Re: Slow redrawing of thumbnails on timeline.

PostThu Sep 14, 2023 7:59 am

Hey there,

since the topic not new, the exact same issues appears to me right now and I was hoping there is some new input I can try to solve this problem for me.

I would really love to see some thumbnails, but atm the only possibe way is to work complety without thumbnail, otherwise my pc feels like going down to super slow motion (same as video above).

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Re: Slow redrawing of thumbnails on timeline.

PostThu Sep 14, 2023 2:15 pm

I have no problem with the thumbnails in the timeline when zooming in and out. They redraw instantly. I have the thumbnails set to Film Strip View in the Timeline View Options.
As to that video, I would love to know why he's waving the curser about like that.
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Re: Slow redrawing of thumbnails on timeline.

PostThu Sep 14, 2023 2:22 pm

If you have h264/h265 as your source, it will take a bit.

I usually change the visualization method to show only first and last frame, it is instantaneous.
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