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Samsung T9 SSD

PostFri Oct 20, 2023 8:50 pm

Has anyone had any experience shooting with the new Samsung T9 SSD w/ a BMCC? I have the first 6K camera so any insight would be great!

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Re: Samsung T9 SSD

PostSat Oct 21, 2023 11:09 am

They are on the latest list of recommended drives:

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/support/faq/59025
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Re: Samsung T9 SSD

PostSun Oct 22, 2023 8:57 am

Robert Niessner wrote:They are on the latest list of recommended drives:

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/support/faq/59025


Okay, this is for the 4K BMCC, not 6K...
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Re: Samsung T9 SSD

PostSun Oct 22, 2023 5:27 pm

Acronyms commonly used for BMD cinema cameras grouped by concept (no broadcast cameras):

BMCC
- 2013 release, the original 2.5K
- followed by BMPC4K (Production camera 4K global shutter)
- 2023 followed by BMCC6K LF OLPF CFe

BMPCC
- the first Pocket camera HD
- followed by BMPCC4K, BMPCC6K, BMPCC6KPro, BMPCC6K G2

URSA 4K
- the bear of a camera with same 4K GS
sensor, 10” monitor, 16.3 pounds

UM4K
- the original URSA Mini, 5.5 pounds
- followed by UM4.6K same body
- followed by UMPro, UMProG2 (faster 4.6K sensor)
- UMP12K novel BMD sensor/CFA design RGBWWW, each photosite defined by reference to a 6x6 matrix

BMMCC
- the original Micro, HD
- followed by BMMCC4K
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Re: Samsung T9 SSD

PostSun Oct 22, 2023 9:09 pm

J Stutts wrote:
Robert Niessner wrote:They are on the latest list of recommended drives:

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/support/faq/59025


Okay, this is for the 4K BMCC, not 6K...


Sorry, you are right. I could have sworn that it read 6k...
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Re: Samsung T9 SSD

PostSun Oct 22, 2023 11:49 pm

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/support/faq/59026


I personally recommend a USB-C enclosure and a Crucial MX500. This combination will run you about $60 dollars.

ORICO USB3.0 to SATA III 2.5"... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M08LCXW?re ... b_ap_share

Type C to Micro B Cord, 1 Pack... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077B9FMVL?re ... b_ap_share

Crucial MX500 1TB 3D NAND SATA 2.5 Inch Internal SSD, up to 560MB/s - CT1000MX500SSD1 https://a.co/d/eC6I5wc
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Re: Samsung T9 SSD

PostMon Oct 23, 2023 8:21 pm

Robert Niessner wrote:
J Stutts wrote:
Robert Niessner wrote:They are on the latest list of recommended drives:

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/support/faq/59025


Okay, this is for the 4K BMCC, not 6K...


Sorry, you are right. I could have sworn that it read 6k...

All good! I read over that page a couple times just to double check :lol:
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Re: Samsung T9 SSD

PostMon Oct 23, 2023 8:25 pm

ShaheedMalik wrote:https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/support/faq/59026


I personally recommend a USB-C enclosure and a Crucial MX500. This combination will run you about $60 dollars.

ORICO USB3.0 to SATA III 2.5"... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M08LCXW?re ... b_ap_share

Type C to Micro B Cord, 1 Pack... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077B9FMVL?re ... b_ap_share

Crucial MX500 1TB 3D NAND SATA 2.5 Inch Internal SSD, up to 560MB/s - CT1000MX500SSD1 https://a.co/d/eC6I5wc

I'm all for saving a buck but the Crucial MX500 has a write speed of 510 MB/s while the Samsung T9 has a write speed of up to 2,000MB/s. For shooting 6K RAW, I feel like the Samsung would be a more applicable choice.
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Re: Samsung T9 SSD

PostTue Oct 24, 2023 12:39 am

I'd disadvise Orico. They have a 'sell and forget' attitude in my experience.
Better results here with Acasis.
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Re: Samsung T9 SSD

PostTue Oct 24, 2023 1:14 am

J Stutts wrote:
ShaheedMalik wrote:https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/support/faq/59026


I personally recommend a USB-C enclosure and a Crucial MX500. This combination will run you about $60 dollars.

ORICO USB3.0 to SATA III 2.5"... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M08LCXW?re ... b_ap_share

Type C to Micro B Cord, 1 Pack... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077B9FMVL?re ... b_ap_share

Crucial MX500 1TB 3D NAND SATA 2.5 Inch Internal SSD, up to 560MB/s - CT1000MX500SSD1 https://a.co/d/eC6I5wc

I'm all for saving a buck but the Crucial MX500 has a write speed of 510 MB/s while the Samsung T9 has a write speed of up to 2,000MB/s. For shooting 6K RAW, I feel like the Samsung would be a more applicable choice.


Both drives would be bottlenecked by the USB port though, which is 5Gbps for the BMPCC4K/6K and BMCC6K. I’d still go with the T9 because it is recommended but it is absolutely overkill.
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Re: Samsung T9 SSD

PostTue Oct 24, 2023 1:46 am

Depending upon the USB connection on your computer, faster SSD drives are welcome when copying off very large media files. Since I record for hours at high datarates, typically Q0 or Q1, retrieval of the media can take significant time.
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Re: Samsung T9 SSD

PostTue Oct 24, 2023 2:42 am

In that case I can highly recommend the Acasis enclosure with a fast NVMe drive.
It's adaptive in the way that it behaves as USB-C on a camera and as Thunderbolt if your machine has Thunderbolt (and is connected by the right cable).
I get about 2,700 MB/s read and write with it on the computer.
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Re: Samsung T9 SSD

PostTue Oct 24, 2023 4:24 am

Thanks, Uli. The Mac Pro 2019 uses Thunderbolt 3. The Apple Pro Display XDR connects to one of the TB3 ports on the Mac and the display has 3 additional USB-C ports.
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Re: Samsung T9 SSD

PostTue Oct 24, 2023 4:28 am

Understood. So there's a limitation anyway.
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Re: Samsung T9 SSD

PostTue Oct 24, 2023 6:02 am

BM posted compatible devices for the new cinema camera. But for some reason the flow rate on internal cards is higher than on external drives. 3:1 RAW vs 5:1 RAW. It’s strange, because the speed of external drives is higher.
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Re: Samsung T9 SSD

PostTue Oct 24, 2023 12:57 pm

J Stutts wrote:
ShaheedMalik wrote:https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/support/faq/59026


I personally recommend a USB-C enclosure and a Crucial MX500. This combination will run you about $60 dollars.

ORICO USB3.0 to SATA III 2.5"... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M08LCXW?re ... b_ap_share

Type C to Micro B Cord, 1 Pack... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077B9FMVL?re ... b_ap_share

Crucial MX500 1TB 3D NAND SATA 2.5 Inch Internal SSD, up to 560MB/s - CT1000MX500SSD1 https://a.co/d/eC6I5wc

I'm all for saving a buck but the Crucial MX500 has a write speed of 510 MB/s while the Samsung T9 has a write speed of up to 2,000MB/s. For shooting 6K RAW, I feel like the Samsung would be a more applicable choice.


I have personally used this combination with 6k since 2020 with no issues. Those drives are limited to USB 3.0. You need a drive with a constant write speed.

If you just need a fast drive the Crucial X10 is faster than a Samsung T9.
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