Blackmagic Camera App for Android Phones?

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Re: Blackmagic Camera App for Android Phones?

PostSat Dec 23, 2023 5:23 am

When Blackmagic Design creates an Android version of their camera app, they will probably give it away for free for the same reason they give Resolve away for free. It is the Gillette Razor marketing model:
"Give away the razor handle and make your money on blades."

Resolve and the camera app are both vehicles to feed users into the Blackmagic eco system:
You like to edit in resolve? $400 for the mini controller, $600 for the keyboard controller.
You like resolve color correction? how about a color console? $860 for the micro, $2,100 for the mini and $27,500 for the full blown advanced.
You like Fairlight and would like some knobs and faders? $3,100 for the desktop with 12 faders or ~$31K for the 24 channel control surface.
What about rack mount screens, switchers, splitters, cross connect, format converters?
I am sure there are production suites that are almost everything Blackmagic. Just a few products that Blackmagic doesn't sell. Especially in the corporate/church world. It all just works together as a whole.

Likewise for the app. How about a Black magic camera or three?

Once Blackmagic gets a new user started with a free editor or app, a lot of users then find it simplest to continue on with other Black Magic products because they work so well together. It does not take too many $27K color correction consoles or $31K audio consoles for Blackmagic to start earning some real money.
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Re: Blackmagic Camera App for Android Phones?

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Re: Blackmagic Camera App for Android Phones?

PostMon Feb 12, 2024 5:01 pm

I'd love to see the camera app for Android as well. However, as others have stated here there are a lot of issues with developing apps for Android. I have mainly had Samsung phones and one of the problems for camera apps is Samsung has not yet released all the information app developers need to make the app work the way we all want it to work.

One area that Samsung has kept shut down is frame rates. They have not made it possible for app developers to control the frame rates the way the native camera app does. I have been using Filmic on my S21 Ultra and I am only able to select 24, 25, 30 and 60fps in any of the resolutions. Samsung has locked out 48, 50, 120 and 240 fps for 3rd party camera apps.

Why has Samsung decided to do this? Who knows. Apple has not done this. As for the other phone manufacturers, I don't know if they are able to access the full range of frame rates. If they do, good for them. But I don't want to have to pay for a camera app anymore. Filmic has made their app undesirable for me when they went subscription. If they offered a one time purchase, I'd consider them again.

With Apple having the BMD camera app and the LiDAR on the phones, it is pushing me closer to actually switching over to an iPhone. This would be a monumental change for me. I was in the phone biz for about 18 years and never considered an iPhone for myself because of how many limitations Apple places on their devices. But they have been getting better, as evidenced by the BMD camera app.

Anyway, that was my two cents on the BMD camera app and Android devices. It would be great to have the app available on Android but I can understand why some companies don't bother with Android too much.
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Re: Blackmagic Camera App for Android Phones?

PostWed Mar 06, 2024 11:52 pm

I do hope they make the Blackmagic Camera App available for Android in the extremely near future!
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Re: Blackmagic Camera App for Android Phones?

PostSat Mar 09, 2024 2:31 am

If it doesn't show up at NAB, it'll probably never come.
I think they have a pretty good relationship with Apple. Apple used their app when shooting the M3 presentation on iPhone and they regularly demonstrate their computers with DaVinci Resolve. It runs really smooth on Mx machines.
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Re: Blackmagic Camera App for Android Phones?

PostSun Mar 31, 2024 3:19 am

After recently purchasing a Black Magic Cinema 4k Pocket Camera I began my search for a Android app and came across this forum. I find all the excuses here for Black Magic not having a Android app to be lame cop outs at best.

If all the other major camera manufactures can offer a Android app for their cameras there is absolutely no reason or excuse for Black Magic not too.

I have a significant investment in my camera and the accessories to create a complete workflow. The least Black Magic Design can do is provide a Android app for those who prefer Android phones as all the other major camera manufactures do. Get down to it Black Magic.

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PostMon Apr 01, 2024 9:51 pm

Arri has none, neither has Red-Nikon or Canon. Only Sony for their very own Androids.
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Re: Blackmagic Camera App for Android Phones?

PostMon Apr 01, 2024 10:10 pm

Uli Plank wrote:Arri has none, neither has Red-Nikon or Canon. Only Sony for their very own Androids.


Not to mention that he says that he’s read this 2 page thread ("I find all the excuses here ... to be lame cop outs"), and apparently thinks it’s about an app for his "4k Pocket Camera".
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Re: Blackmagic Camera App for Android Phones?

PostMon Apr 01, 2024 10:28 pm

RadicalRaul wrote:Get down to it Black Magic.

Case closed.

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Re: Blackmagic Camera App for Android Phones?

PostTue Apr 09, 2024 11:31 pm

Uli Plank wrote:If it doesn't show up at NAB, it'll probably never come.
I think they have a pretty good relationship with Apple. Apple used their app when shooting the M3 presentation on iPhone and they regularly demonstrate their computers with DaVinci Resolve. It runs really smooth on Mx machines.

The only reason I'm looking forward to NAB this year is that they could unveil the Android version of the app. At least one for Samsung and Google flagship phones. I love Blackmagic as a company but their apparent tight relationship with Apple worries me. I worry how much power and leverage Apple might have on what BM does or does not do. If Apple is the reason why there is never an Android version of the app, that would be very concerning. I'm sure some jurisdictions would consider this practice illegal, monopolistic and completely violating antitrust laws.

Blackmagic, please release an Android version. There are way more Android than iOS devices. So, looking at it from a business standpoint it makes not sense not to release an Android version that is just as good or better than the iOS version. This should be no different than developing a Windows and macOS versions of your software.

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PostWed Apr 10, 2024 2:06 am

Well, that relationship might be complicated. BM is still refusing to support ProRes RAW.
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Re: Blackmagic Camera App for Android Phones?

PostSat Apr 13, 2024 12:59 pm

robedge wrote:
Uli Plank wrote:Arri has none, neither has Red-Nikon or Canon. Only Sony for their very own Androids.


Not to mention that he says that he’s read this 2 page thread ("I find all the excuses here ... to be lame cop outs"), and apparently thinks it’s about an app for his "4k Pocket Camera".


Actually I'm just interested in a remote control app. As the majority of camera manufactures offer.

I would never shoot or edit with a iPhone or Android. I find it hard to believe any pro shooter or editor would.

I'll leave the trends to the wannabees.
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Re: Blackmagic Camera App for Android Phones?

PostSun Apr 14, 2024 10:28 pm

Just seen a video of someone at nab showing Blackmagic camera app on the pixel phone at the Blackmagic design booth
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PostSun Apr 14, 2024 10:29 pm

Here is the link to the video
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PostSun Apr 14, 2024 11:15 pm

ExzxImages wrote:Just seen a video of someone at nab showing Blackmagic camera app on the pixel phone at the Blackmagic design booth


Thanks very much. This is a fairly big deal.
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Re: Blackmagic Camera App for Android Phones?

PostMon Apr 15, 2024 3:58 am

Some of the reasoning in this thread is a little strange.

If BMD wanted to pick one or two large Android phones that's more units than Apple ships. :o Unless they don't want to offend some Android users by only supporting Samsung or Xiaomi . But that offends everybody.

I'd wager they've limited resources and picked IOS first. Nothing more than that.
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Re: Blackmagic Camera App for Android Phones?

PostMon Apr 15, 2024 6:38 am

Blackmagic Camera Coming to Android*


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PostThu Jul 04, 2024 7:05 pm

I saw the new phone app says it supports Samsung phones and lists s23 ultra as one yet when I go to download the app it says my phone is not supported... I want this app what phones are actually supported??
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Re: Blackmagic Camera App for Android Phones?

PostFri Jul 05, 2024 7:06 am

Ahren, try updating your phones OS.
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Re: Blackmagic Camera App for Android Phones?

PostSat Jul 06, 2024 6:48 pm

Peter Chamberlain wrote:Ahren, try updating your phones OS.


Peter, Samsung is about to release updated versions of their Fold and Flip phones and at least the Flip should get a new camera along with the latest OS.

Since some of us are looking to pre-order this to get a better deal would you be able to tell us soon if these upcoming phones will be able to run the app?
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Re: Blackmagic Camera App for Android Phones?

PostSun Jul 07, 2024 10:01 am

Aloha

what would be the proper way to report a bug or make a feature request with BMD Camera for Android?

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Re: Blackmagic Camera App for Android Phones?

PostTue Jul 09, 2024 10:34 pm

ksilva wrote:
Blackmagic, please release an Android version. There are way more Android than iOS devices. So, looking at it from a business standpoint it makes not sense not to release an Android version that is just as good or better than the iOS version. This should be no different than developing a Windows and macOS versions of your software.

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No it’s very different from developing for computer Os. Android is not an Os, is a base of customised Os where brand decide if you can or cannot use some function of hardware.
Under android you cannot develop easier an app that want to access to hardware like camera be cause not all brand and not for all phones allow you to access to all functions. Filmic pro developer did an app test for android to allow people to understand what can work and what cannot work. I had 7 android and most of app bought for one not work on others, all app I bought for iPhone continue to work across newer os and newer iPhones.
They decide to develop some feature and the fact that work on some phones is not a limit from Blackmagic Design developers but ability to access to hardware across Os customised from Samsung and others.


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Re: Blackmagic Camera App for Android Phones?

PostThu Jul 11, 2024 3:38 pm

I bought a Samsung Galaxy A14 last year and I don't see the Blackmagic Camera App in the Google Play Store app. I have Android version 14 on my A14.
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PostThu Jul 11, 2024 6:43 pm

Larry Vaughn wrote:I bought a Samsung Galaxy A14 last year and I don't see the Blackmagic Camera App in the Google Play Store app. I have Android version 14 on my A14.


Supported on phones running Android 13 or later.
Samsung Galaxy S23, S23FE, S23+, S23 Ultra
Samsung Galaxy S24, S24+, S24 Ultra
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Re: Blackmagic Camera App for Android Phones?

PostTue Sep 24, 2024 5:29 am

Hey there... how bout for midrange phones like the Xiaomi note 13 series? thanks :D
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PostWed Sep 25, 2024 9:28 am

CelCine wrote:Hey there... how bout for midrange phones like the Xiaomi note 13 series? thanks :D


Hi.

Supported Devices
Samsung Galaxy: S21, S22, S23, S24 ‑ all models.

Google Pixel: 6, 7, 8, 9 ‑ all models except Fold.

OnePlus: 11, 12 ‑ all models.

Xiaomi: 13, 14 ‑ all models.

Operating System 13.

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