Why not make key functions agree

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Why not make key functions agree

PostSun Apr 13, 2025 6:22 pm

When in the edit page, you hold the ALT key to zoom in and out, but in the Fusion page, you use the CTRL key. Why not the same on every page?

Also, since the audio controls can be keyframed in the edit page, why not add these keyframes to the new (awesome) Keyframe viewer too!

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Re: Why not make key functions agree

PostSat Apr 19, 2025 6:34 pm

jimA2Z wrote:Why not the same on every page?
Poor planning. :(
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Re: Why not make key functions agree

PostSun Apr 20, 2025 12:37 am

jimA2Z wrote:When in the edit page, you hold the ALT key to zoom in and out, but in the Fusion page, you use the CTRL key. Why not the same on every page?

I think that makes a lot of sense.
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Re: Why not make key functions agree

PostSun Apr 20, 2025 8:50 am

jimA2Z wrote:When in the edit page, you hold the ALT key to zoom in and out, but in the Fusion page, you use the CTRL key. Why not the same on every page?
Fwiw, the reason is that Fusion is/was a mature product with a longstanding user base when it was rolled into Resolve. To ensure that existing Fusion users would enjoy transparent continued use of the product when using Resolve Fusion and/or switching between Resolve Fusion and Fusion Studio, BMD retained the existing shortcut mapping for the zoom control in the Fusion page (in spite of the fact that its a different shortcut than used throughout the rest of the Resolve). You can, however, remap it in the Fusion page settings. Do that and your zoom function shortcut mismatch troubles are over.
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Re: Why not make key functions agree

PostSun Apr 20, 2025 3:17 pm

Andy Mees wrote:You can, however, remap it in the Fusion page settings. Do that and your zoom function shortcut mismatch troubles are over.
Yay!! I didn't know that option was in the Fusion settings. This is so much better. :)

I'd love to have these types of settings in a dedicated Mouse Editor (just like the Keyboard editor) where you could set the mouse buttons and scroll wheel modifiers globally or separately for each section of the application.
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Re: Why not make key functions agree

PostSun Apr 20, 2025 3:33 pm

Andy Mees wrote:the reason is that Fusion is/was a mature product with a longstanding user base
There is a logic to that thinking.

But...leaning new shortcuts is a minor and temporary inconvenience. Having the same shortcuts for the same functions through an entire program is a major and lasting benefit.

I would love to see BMD prioritize Parity across pages, with Edit being the Reference in most cases.

(Another example. Alt+Click will temporarily Unlink clips on Edit...but not on Fairlight. :( )
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Re: Why not make key functions agree

PostSun Apr 20, 2025 4:14 pm

Jim Simon wrote:I would love to see BMD prioritize Parity across pages, with Edit being the Reference in most cases.
If they added a Mouse Editor then we could do that ourselves. I'd rather do it myself anyways as I do not like the vast majority of the controls in Resolve and I'd like to change them.
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Re: Why not make key functions agree

PostSun Apr 20, 2025 9:52 pm

The issue is that with everything integrated into a single program, there's no justification for maintaining so many different approaches to the same tasks. They should aim to standardize most functionality, like the zoom feature, for example.

I don't care which one is chosen, I just want to use the same way on both page.

Ultimately, what's better? Having countless different ways to perform identical tasks? Or making a clean break from the past once and for all? If someone prefers the "legacy" method for certain functions, such as zoom or undo (which operates differently depending on where you are in Resolve), they can adjust accordingly (like Blender does I believe, they broke from their old weird keyboard shortcut at one point, but you could/can have them back, but it's not the default anymore).

This is how a program becomes chaotic - when developers try to preserve all legacy functionality while simultaneously adding new features and attempting to appeal to a broader user base.
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Re: Why not make key functions agree

PostMon Apr 21, 2025 12:55 am

In the keyboard manager there are compatibility modes. But only for editing platforms and nothing that’s page by page.

To do this “right” one would want the option to override the global settings for a page with specific ones.

Have the Resolve bindings be consistent across pages. Then have a per page compatibility override so Fusion people for example could use Resolve bindings except for Fusion where they get the legacy bindings.
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Re: Why not make key functions agree

PostMon Apr 21, 2025 10:02 am

Joe Shapiro wrote:To do this “right” one would want the option to override the global settings for a page with specific ones.
Agree 100%!

For the controls that behave exactly the same in more than one Page, they should have global setting to apply them in every area at once. But for controls that are specific to an individual page, they would only show up inside of the controls for that specific page.

For example, the node graph in Fusion would have different navigation controls than the Timeline on the Edit page, so these controls should be in separate pages. But the video viewer in Fusion would have the same navigation controls as the viewer viewer on the Edit page, so these should have global controls in addition to individual page controls (for those who want the pages to behave differently).
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Re: Why not make key functions agree

PostMon Apr 21, 2025 2:23 pm

Totally agree. I find it strange to see keybindings that are so different across the tabs. Is if diffferent tabs were designed by different people who don't like to communicate with each other
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Re: Why not make key functions agree

PostMon Apr 21, 2025 10:22 pm

They were designed by different companies. Then BMD bought them and integrated them into Resolve.
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